Berwick V Glasgow Lc Sat 6/4/13 At 7p.m.

[Robinh88]

Tbh Berwick is the modern day Exeter. Even with the airfence I wouldn't fancy going for a big Jade Mudgway swoop on the 3rd and 4th Bend.

 

I remember in 2005 Waitey had an obsession with preparing a track with one line right at the fence from Heat One. Then about May time he bought some new shale (no doubt with money out of the buckets) but regardless the racing for a couple of weeks was excellent . The Shale run out and we never saw it again. I often wonder with the track changes we made a few years ago, did hat help start the process of Berwick losing that crucial home track advantage. Berwick, now seem to have tracked a decent 7 so irrespective of what track surface they are given we should be winning our home matches.

 

If you solely go to Berwick every week while supplementing that with a occasional dossage of the EL. Berwick by all accounts is pretty decent.

I don't think an increased amount of dirt will make a difference. Great meetings at Berwick are very few and far between, enjoy them when they come, because you don't know when the next one will be

[Teal]

 

 

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but there was an interesting discussion of Facebook which included ex-riders and current riders.

The question as was about whether or not tracks need dirt for good racing.

 

Almost every rider that posted had track shape as the most important factor.

Some talked against a lot of dirt.

Some said track shape and a slick track.

None mentioned lots of dirt.

 

Don't shoot the messenger.

 

perhaps it just too fast!

[DSC67]

Not the strongest of opponents tonight. I think we should have just about enogh ponts for tomorrows return leg .I'm sure there will be a lot stiffer tests to come in the following weeks & we can't afford to have Kozza giving away easy points,hopefully his fitness will improve in the weeks to come .

Edited April 6, 2013 by millen

[BRITISHSPEEDPOWER]

Yeah berwick won, thats great. but so so boring. i like being entertained, i like passing, i like eciting speedway. This track used to be grippy and the racing was ordinary. Now that its slick its awfull. DIRT DIRT DIRT. Proper dirt not powder dirt....

[bigeddiechek]

perhaps it just too fast!

Maybe, or is it any different from other tracks?

Smaller tracks, of course, are going to have riders closer together, which might be more desirable for some.

 

I can't say that I didn't enjoy tonight, it wasn't a classic, but it entertained me.

It was by far better than the crap that was available as "entertainment" throughout the close season.

 

For what it is worth, I think the biggest factor in the quality of racing is that opposition.

[MD]

Perhaps it is also the long term effect of laydown engines, being too fast.

Edited April 6, 2013 by MD

[bigeddiechek]

Perhaps it is also the long term effect of laydown engines, being too fast.

I guess that would be more apparent on bigger tracks too?

[nagy1]

Credit to the Berwick promotion. The meeting was run at a good pace, I'm home in time to watch Match of the Day!

 

We didn't put up much of a fight! Mr Wright looks like a broken man!

 

Hope we can get something out of tomorrow's meeting

[emilali]

 

I guess that would be more apparent on bigger tracks too?

 

Peterborough? Kings Lynn? Most Polish tracks? Dont use the bigger track excuse as its garbage. The problem with Berwick is that its too narrow, dont think its a preperation problem as i believe its prepared well.

[Fromafar]

Peterborough? Kings Lynn? Most Polish tracks? Dont use the bigger track excuse as its garbage. The problem with Berwick is that its too narrow, dont think its a preperation problem as i believe its prepared well.

The narrow entry and exits to the bends will always be a problem regarding the track IMO.

[emilali]

The narrow entry and exits to the bends will always be a problem regarding the track IMO.

 

Yes i know they will thats what I'm meaning, you cant use the fact its too fast as an excuse for poor racing because other big fast tracks produce great racing. The fundamental issue with Berwick imo is the track is far to narrow.

[bigeddiechek]

The narrow entry and exits to the bends will always be a problem regarding the track IMO.

 

I know that is something that has been looked at, but doesn't work with the football pitch.

Although, if they go ahead and build their new stadium, we could widen the track then

 

One question: how come there are meetings where there is a lot of passing?

 

I've seen it with the Peter Waite tattie field, with super slick dustbowl meetings, new shale, old shale, soaking wet, new smooth surface.

If the track is the problem, how come we have had lots of passing in all the above conditions?

 

I had the DVDs from over the years to prove it!

[Fromafar]

I know that is something that has been looked at, but doesn't work with the football pitch.

Although, if they go ahead and build their new stadium, we could widen the track then

 

One question: how come there are meetings where there is a lot of passing?

 

I've seen it with the Peter Waite tattie field, with super slick dustbowl meetings, new shale, old shale, soaking wet, new smooth surface.

If the track is the problem, how come we have had lots of passing in all the above conditions?

 

I had the DVDs from over the years to prove it!

As stated only my opinion regarding track shape.

[bigeddiechek]

As stated only my opinion regarding track shape.

Surely - with that being constant - there would never be any good racing though?

[Fromafar]

Surely - with that being constant - there would never be any good racing though?

I your previous Post you state that almost All the riders in the Facebook survey state that track shape is the most important thing. I am pointing out that I dont think the shape track at Berwick is Ideal,I am sure plenty of fans will disagree with me but that is my opinion.

[bigeddiechek]

I your previous Post you state that almost All the riders in the Facebook survey state that track shape is the most important thing. I am pointing out that I dont think the shape track at Berwick is Ideal,I am sure plenty of fans will disagree with me but that is my opinion.

I think you will probably find most people agree with you on that one.

 

The fact that there can be racing - and there actually often is - says to me it is down to the quality of riders.

 

I guess the answer is to go Elite League.

[Fromafar]

I think you will probably find most people agree with you on that one.

 

The fact that there can be racing - and there actually often is - says to me it is down to the quality of riders.

 

I guess the answer is to go Elite League.

You can put the bait back in the tin.

[bigeddiechek]

You can put the bait back in the tin.

 

[havenagotahope]

Is it not more about the inconsistencies of certain parts of the track? The exit to bend two and four when on a number of occasions our riders set up the manoeuvre but could not complete because the track was too deep at those points.

Secondly if it is all about the track then when we head of to these so called racer tracks then our rider will show their potential or not at which point track prep will become the major issue!

[Gazc]

Not the strongest of opponents tonight. I think we should have just about enogh ponts for tomorrows return leg .I'm sure there will be a lot stiffer tests to come in the following weeks & we can't afford to have Kozza giving away easy points,hopefully his fitness will improve in the weeks to come .

 

Now i have had time to reflect on my first look at my side last night it only confirms what i feared when the team was assembled it is just not competitive enough , with the exception of 3 riders and to a lesser extent one inexperienced reserve our boy's were sadly being tailed off

 

I am trying not to be too critical here but when you spend the gut's of £100 to watch your team not being competitive on track it is a sore one to take , Our promotion have done a lot off positive thing's so far but if the product and the most important one is not right then particularly in today's financial climate people will not part with there hard earned to watch there team being rolled over

 

I know it will take time for the new boy's to settle and i will alway's go and watch my team regardless but I can only call it from the new supporter or occasional supporter perspective which they are hoping to attract they will possibly go once or twice and sod off into the sunset if what they are being served up isn't value for money.

 

Onto last night I am mystified how a rider like James Wright has lost it so much in the space of a couple off years there is no doubting the ability is there but it is soul destroying to watch a rider of undoubted talent shutting off in the first bend then pootling around at the back remember he has basically been brought in as a like for like replacement for Josh and on last night's showing we are in big trouble

 

Not wishing to be all negative as there was some positive's Young Joe Jacobs looked on the pace and never gave up but had some bike problems that hindered him but should improve as the season progresses , Harley had a good first ride but faded thereafter and took a sore one later in the meeting and had to be withdrawn , sadly Joey was missing the starts every race and apart from when Smith fell in one race never looked like scoring .

 

Berwick can only beat what is in front off them and they in general were much better in every department and fully deserved there big win it only hammers home what we are missing when you see Bellego on the form he was on last night he looked superb.

 

We move on to Ashfield today and unless we see a marked improvement from us the Bandit's must really fancy there chances off taking all the point's on offer they will never have a better chance

Edited April 7, 2013 by Gazc