neb Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 I can't wait for this ...seconds out round one . and in the black and white corner the northern know it all !!! and in the opposite corner we have jim the whipper the midlands know it all !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 On pulling the dirt back after the meeting, I found the inside of turns 1,2 and 3 were all used. So not really true to say no one used it. The shale on the pit gate gets used also but is doesn't help the racing!!;-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted March 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 'Fastest speedway in Britian'. Careful, we'll be using that next week!. However, bringing facts into a discussion, It would be interesting to see if anyone with an actual knowledge of speedway will hold their hands up and say the home straight and angle of the first bend corner will actually allow a rider to carry enough speed around the bend to overtake someone half decent who hasn't made a mistake. I begin to think that there are people out there that believe the corners are negotiated by magic and fairy dust (just watched tinkerbell, sorry). Maybe you are one of these people Dave? if not, what are your thoughts? anyways, i thought long and hard about how the track could work without any alteration to the bends and i think i have it. It's chicanes half way down the straights.. only half joking. Mick. OK I keep getting accused of the posting the bleeding pointless. Right. Passing Bjerre seemed to manage it (he isn't my favorite) Hall seemed to manage it (I liked him when he rode for us). Only 2 riders I agree but maybe there were only 2 riders there that could the track wont help that!!!!! People are quoting the laws of physics well how is this for a law you can only go past somebody if you are going faster then them. Mistakes Riders who make mistakes when put under pressure......... isn't that the whole idea put the rider in front under pressure so he stuffs up and then you pass him .........but i'm no expert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 'Fastest speedway in Britian'. Careful, we'll be using that next week!. However, bringing facts into a discussion, It would be interesting to see if anyone with an actual knowledge of speedway will hold their hands up and say the home straight and angle of the first bend corner will actually allow a rider to carry enough speed around the bend to overtake someone half decent who hasn't made a mistake. I begin to think that there are people out there that believe the corners are negotiated by magic and fairy dust (just watched tinkerbell, sorry). Maybe you are one of these people Dave? if not, what are your thoughts? anyways, i thought long and hard about how the track could work without any alteration to the bends and i think i have it. It's chicanes half way down the straights.. only half joking. Mick. Can't really comment until I see the changes, something I can do when I am down at your track on Tuesday with the Training Day of the British Youth Championships. Unlike some like jimmy the wippy, some people get off their arses, get round the country and do something for the sport. Will be pleased to say hello to anybody who is there on Tuesday. It starts at 10 till about 3.30 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) OK I keep getting accused of the posting the bleeding pointless. Right. Passing Bjerre seemed to manage it (he isn't my favorite) Hall seemed to manage it (I liked him when he rode for us). Only 2 riders I agree but maybe there were only 2 riders there that could the track wont help that!!!!! People are quoting the laws of physics well how is this for a law you can only go past somebody if you are going faster then them. Mistakes Riders who make mistakes when put under pressure......... isn't that the whole idea put the rider in front under pressure so he stuffs up and then you pass him .........but i'm no expert. what i want to see is in a speedway meeting is a Lasse Bjerre using speed and guile to overtake a Simon Stead or vice versa or else a Ricky Wells having to use guile and the whole of the track to hold off a Kauko Nieminen. Neither of these scenarios happen at BP and neither will they IMO. I don't doubt that a Simon Nielsen or Joe Haines going 3/4 speed around the 3/4 bend will allow a riders of the quality of Richard Hall or Lasse Bjerre to go around them, even at BP, but that, to me, is not what it's all about. I suppose we have to agree to disagree with what makes speedway an entertaining business. Mick. Edited March 31, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robert72 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) what i want to see is in a speedway meeting is a Lasse Bjerre using speed and guile to overtake a Simon Stead or vice versa or else a Ricky Wells having to use guile and the whole of the track to hold off a Kauko Nieminen. Neither of these scenarios happen at BP and neither will they IMO. I don't doubt that a Simon Nielsen or Joe Haines going 3/4 speed around the 3/4 bend will allow a riders of the quality of Richard Hall or Lasse Bjerre to go around them, even at BP, but that, to me, is not what it's all about. I suppose we have to agree to disagree with what makes speedway an entertaining business. Mick. I take it your not happy mick and now wished you had'nt bought a season ticket. The shale seemed to be back to the old red colour, instead of the Scunny brown that it was at the end of last year, or is it just my failing eyesight ? I thought there would of been alot more shale on the track, it reminded me of a slick coventry track. Edited March 31, 2013 by robert72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 I went to Leicester last night and to be honest think it is far too early in the season to make final judgements on the track changes as the cold weather would have meant track had to be prepared in a specific way to prevent ice and frost getting into the track in the lead up to the meeting. What I did notice is that gate 1 seems to be terrible now with being too tight once gets to the bend and as other have said can see some accidents and spear tackling. For Leicester I thought they really missed Roynon last night and that Doolan and Nielsen did not look quick enough once out on track the others did what was expected. For Sheffield Stead was the rider I thought he would be very strong and will be near top of averages at end of the season I was impressed by Wells and the new Facundo with Hall like bit of loose dirt on the outside. The new toilet block oh what a disaster with large building but only 3 urinals for men with crowds over 1000 just not enough with large qs happening which meant people missing some of the racing and heard from people around me that ladies no better with leaking toilets so wet floors all in not a good experience for fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Due to the very cold weather recently I think every track is having problems at the moment producing an entertaining surface. The track at Foxhall on Good Friday was very slick and didn't produce good racing either. Give it a few weeks to warm up and allow the track staff to prepare a track for good racing before condemning it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Below are a few of the excuses for the racing at BP that i've selected from those used at the start of last season should anyone be floundering a bit to find their own over the next few weeks.These were from the meetings that are generally accepted as being the some of the worst meetings ever, not just at BP but anywhere... I think they all still should work fine... well , maybe not all of them (you might have to change Bridgett, Meredith and Taylor to Dave Darcy and some other people with access to plant) but otherwise most are good to go and i'm sure the people who wrote them won't mind you reusing them... it might even have been yourselves! Hopefully the changes to the track will see improved action this season The track cannot be blamed for the lack of passing Once again, DH has made the changes as recommended good to see a number of passes on the track as well Really? That ' ' bloke seemed to manage a good pass on a Scunny rider going into turn 3. Neither rider got out of shape or crashed The track doesnt seem as bad as everyone is making it out to be David Hemsley has done exactly whay messrs Bridgett, Meredith and Taylor suggested should be done and they are supposed to be the experts. The racing and presentation were better than last week Track changes have happened I'm glad I did go back, it was definitely better. Not brilliant, but better We've got what we've got and I hope that DH is continuing to look for a solution to the problem. There does appear to be an improvement Well that's bullrubbish. There was a lot more than 1 pass. Must be feckin blind then yet there are those (particularly some who post on here) who are not prepared to give this venture time to bed in I thought it was a cracking meeting saturday,much closer racing,a couple of fantastic passes, just goes to show what can be done i feel each week has been better than the previous week everyone keeps saying the tracks not good but am i not right in saying sat heat five the track record was broken? so cant be that bad???????????????? Hopefully more lines will develop around BP with the ever improving track preparation Edited March 31, 2013 by volty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Makinen doesn't ride for us any more ??? Makinen doesn't ride for us any more ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Do Leicester supporters ever discuss / argue about anything other than the track shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Do Leicester supporters ever discuss / argue about anything other than the track shape? No not really as this has been the major problem letting down leicester speedway since it returned and now we are into the third season and the track is still highly talked about and that simply says it all. Time DH listened to expert advice and not his own which is puttng the clubs future at risk. Edited March 31, 2013 by robert72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Makinen doesn't ride for us any more ??? Makinen doesn't ride for us any more ??? i think you caught that as a work in progress... you can safely say that Wild Wild West ain't doing it for me on this easter sunday. Edited March 31, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Below are a few of the excuses for the racing at BP that i've selected from those used at the start of last season should anyone be floundering a bit to find their own over the next few weeks.These were from the meetings that are generally accepted as being the some of the worst meetings ever, not just at BP but anywhere... I think they all still should work fine... well , maybe not all of them (you might have to change Bridgett, Meredith and Taylor to Dave Darcy and some other people with access to plant) but otherwise most are good to go and i'm sure the people who wrote them won't mind you reusing them... it might even have been yourselves! Hopefully the changes to the track will see improved action this season The track cannot be blamed for the lack of passing Once again, DH has made the changes as recommended good to see a number of passes on the track as well Really? That ' ' bloke seemed to manage a good pass on a Scunny rider going into turn 3. Neither rider got out of shape or crashed The track doesnt seem as bad as everyone is making it out to be David Hemsley has done exactly whay messrs Bridgett, Meredith and Taylor suggested should be done and they are supposed to be the experts. The racing and presentation were better than last week Track changes have happened I'm glad I did go back, it was definitely better. Not brilliant, but better We've got what we've got and I hope that DH is continuing to look for a solution to the problem. There does appear to be an improvement Well that's bullrubbish. There was a lot more than 1 pass. Must be feckin blind then yet there are those (particularly some who post on here) who are not prepared to give this venture time to bed in I thought it was a cracking meeting saturday,much closer racing,a couple of fantastic passes, just goes to show what can be done i feel each week has been better than the previous week everyone keeps saying the tracks not good but am i not right in saying sat heat five the track record was broken? so cant be that bad???????????????? Hopefully more lines will develop around BP with the ever improving track preparation and?I'll give you Roberts quotes from the last 12 months- the tracks crap! Edited March 31, 2013 by mrcts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted March 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Do Leicester supporters ever discuss / argue about anything other than the track shape? I'll give you a sensible answer. There is a train of thought that think DH should sell up and do one. Some people wont rest till that happens. It's not really the track it's the promoter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) and? I'll give you Roberts quotes from the last 12 months- the tracks crap! I'm sure Robert doesn't need me to help him find his old quotes though!.. he uses them daily! My point is we've heard them it all before from both sides and we seem no further forward! I'll give you a sensible answer. There is a train of thought that think DH should sell up and do one. Some people wont rest till that happens. It's not really the track it's the promoter Not with me though. it's definately the track. It's crap. Mick. Edited March 31, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Decent result for sheffield,lads need time to settle.As far as track preparation goes i think we should just be pleased we are seeing some speedway at the moment after all the snow.I think you should give the track alterations a month or so then decide if its been improved or not.It was poor last season but you cant just expect the riders to adapt to new lines till theyve had a few meetings.If people arent happy dont go, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedflash Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) You say it was very slick ! That 50 ton of dirt I put on must have been fairy dust. Simon Stead came up to me and said he had done 7 meetings so far this season and the track last night was the best he had ridden on so far. Safe, Good grip and consistant . Starts were a awesome. Edited March 31, 2013 by speedflash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 I'll give you a sensible answer. There is a train of thought that think DH should sell up and do one. Some people wont rest till that happens. It's not really the track it's the promoter Not with me either, I dont care who the promotor is as long as the riders have a track capable of producing racing past the first turn. You say it was very slick ! That 50 ton of dirt I put on must have been fairy dust. Simon Stead came up to me and said he had done 7 meetings so far this season and the track last night was the best he had ridden on so far. Safe, Good grip and consistant . Starts were a awesome. So the distance he was out in front it would be safe, I saw that steady struggled to pass in one race and he tried and tried but couldnt which shows its still a one line track as that guy can pass anywhere if possible. Starts looked ok but the races were over by the first turn,its a shame the dirt was by the fence,maybe time for rakers to return, it looked very dusty on the fourth turn towards the end, that must of been the fairy dust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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