brewer Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 as these meetings are only a month away, has anyone heard of possible lineups or at least how line ups will be arranged, having a glance at the averages and current fixture list it shouldnt be hard to arrange,and both meetings should be hard fought,i am going to treat myself to a trip up north taking in the edinburgh event, then pop into berwick (sat) newcastle (sun), to round of the weekend,havent been to these tracks for a few years. looks like ipswich are the only team to be racing on both dates, (barker/lanham affected). i would think the 32 riders would be the current (starting) top 32 in averages as the events are so early this year. i would hope the powers are planning top 8 through, and 9th from each meeting being the final reserves, no space left at monmore for mishaps, problems, injuries, these to me are part and parcel, unfortunately but that is the nature of the beast so to speak. and i hope the top boys go where they are allocated this year unlike the shennanigans we heard of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 i would hope the powers are planning top 8 through, and 9th from each meeting being the final reserves, no space left at monmore for mishaps, problems, injuries, these to me are part and parcel, unfortunately but that is the nature of the beast so to speak.and i hope the top boys go where they are allocated this year unlike the shennanigans we heard of last season. Where as I disagree, I'd prefer to see top 7 form each with 2 wildcards. If there no bad luck I'd give the wildcards to the two 8th places but I'd prefer to see the possibility of wildcards if they are needed. Also, is it not possible Barker will be unaffected as the top 6 will be seeded meaning two lots of 5 (or 4 + wildcards) will qualify from the semis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 but edinburghs press release on 21/1 said any of nicholls/harris/tai etc could be coming to armadale, so i would of thought harkess would know the ins and outs, but that aside what is your thoughts on the cut off re selection, as i say imo it should be starting averages, with it being so close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyfivetoes Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) but edinburghs press release on 21/1 said any of nicholls/harris/tai etc could be coming to armadale, so i would of thought harkess would know the ins and outs, but that aside what is your thoughts on the cut off re selection, as i say imo it should be starting averages, with it being so close. From a good source, the semi-finals are 'seeded' by ability -- they take the top half-dozen from the EL (I'd guess Harris, King, Nicholls, Kennett, Woffinden and Bridger) allocate them three and three, then the next six (top PL guys) and do the same, etc. Only 'fixing' of the draw is when a rider's club have a HOME fixture the same night. So Redcar & Ipswich wouldn't lose riders to the Sheffield semi, and Somerset or Scunny will keep riders out of the Edinburgh meeting. Both Swindon (Thursday) and Lakeside (Friday) have reserved dates, so possibly riders might be steered away from those dates, if fixtures are reallocated. Otherwise, it'll be a straight 50/50 on ability, so both semis will have a fairly equal line-up. Edited March 25, 2013 by freddyfivetoes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 But when will we actually know who's rding in which Semi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthetiger Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 But when will we actually know who's rding in which Semi? Good question. This is a matter for BSPA office, but it has to be expected the draw(s) will be announced by next week at the latest, as the two tracks need time to publicise their events, and the riders to plan their journeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 From a good source, the semi-finals are 'seeded' by ability -- they take the top half-dozen from the EL (I'd guess Harris, King, Nicholls, Kennett, Woffinden and Bridger) allocate them three and three, then the next six (top PL guys) and do the same, etc. Only 'fixing' of the draw is when a rider's club have a HOME fixture the same night. So Redcar & Ipswich wouldn't lose riders to the Sheffield semi, and Somerset or Scunny will keep riders out of the Edinburgh meeting. Both Swindon (Thursday) and Lakeside (Friday) have reserved dates, so possibly riders might be steered away from those dates, if fixtures are reallocated. Otherwise, it'll be a straight 50/50 on ability, so both semis will have a fairly equal line-up. So Ipswich will go to Scunthorpe without their top 2 who will be at Edinburgh or have them missing from a home meeting if the 2 are at Sheffield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 So Ipswich will go to Scunthorpe without their top 2 who will be at Edinburgh or have them missing from a home meeting if the 2 are at Sheffield. If, as you say, Ipswich have two riders in the semi-finals, then it must be expected they would be seeded to the Edinburgh meeting, as their home match would get priority. The club get guests for both of them, per the rules. How else would you want it arranged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 If, as you say, Ipswich have two riders in the semi-finals, then it must be expected they would be seeded to the Edinburgh meeting, as their home match would get priority. The club get guests for both of them, per the rules. How else would you want it arranged? Perhaps not going to Scunny that night. Seems poor planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthetiger Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Perhaps not going to Scunny that night. Seems poor planning. So what do you suggest? Seeding Ipswich riders to the British Final? Running the semi-finals on a night to suit Ipswich and not some other track(s).? Put Barker and Lanham to the Sheffield meeting to allow you to dignify Scunthorpe with your presence? A National Championship eliminator takes precedence over a common league event. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Surely it would have been possible to arrange the fixtures without a clash - with a non Thursday track visiting Scunny on the night of the Edinburgh semi with both teams Brits at the Sheff semi. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Nothing to 'get over' for me.....seems reasonable to ask why any side needs to be riding both nights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Nothing to 'get over' for me.....seems reasonable to ask why any side needs to be riding both nights. Exactly - its not like its come about trying to fit around postponements etc - there was a blank list to work with.Yes it affects my team this time but I would think the same whomever was affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 19 days to go and still nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 19 days to go and still nothing. What a surprise 'brewer' a joke we will probably find out on the 18th day you think thing,s can only get better they never do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 you would think some teams may like to know, as they may have to secure guests if they are racing, ie ipswich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobs Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 No news yet? 14 days until Edinburgh meeting, not much more until Sheffield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Less than two weeks until the first Semi Final and still we don't know who will be riding where! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 EDINBURGH (April 19): Chris Harris, Danny King, Edward Kennett, Craig Cook, Ricky Ashworth, Richard Lawson, Stuart Robson, Leigh Lanham, James Grieves, James Wright, Derek Sneddon, Richie Worrall, Kyle Howarth, Chris Mills, Carl Wilkinson, Steve Worrall. Reserves: Charles Wright, Kyle Hughes. SHEFFIELD (April 25): Tai Woffinden, Scott Nicholls, Ben Barker, Lewis Bridger, David Howe, Josh Auty, Olly Allen, Simon Stead, Robert Mear, Richard Hall, Chris Schramm, Ashley Birks, Kyle Newman, Joe Haines, Jason Garrity, Lee Smart. Reserves: Tom Perry, Lewis Blackbird. Hopefully an entertaining meetings with no injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Cook and sneddon at Edinburgh and Hall, stead and Haines at Sheffield. Glad the draw has been fair and random for a change 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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