stratton Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I think nowadays one of the problems are the the senior riders and top men just stay in PL and earn a good living stifling the opportunties for rider "turnaround" and most teams are looking for an" unknown" foriegner who might " hit the ground running",as most fans can see that British talent in NL is" work in progress".Dont see any overnight British sensations which was quite common in the past IMO Great to see young Bates has had a good start today! i suppose with the young English guys you don't want to push them and they end up out of there depth.I see EL racing but i prefer PL racing some damn good teams in that league a more competitive league even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I think the riders from the NL that are ready have made the step up already, theres no-one in the NL that hasnt gone a PL place that would do a job IMO, apart from Boxall who apparently interested in PL racing. Shame. Josh Bates, Adam Ellis, Stefan Nielsen, Lewis Kerr, Joe Jacobs, Ben Reade, Jake Knight have all been signed up for the PL this year by clubs, thats seven new Brits in one season which is pretty good, it remains to be seen if they are good enough yet to handle the PL. If they are scoring 0 and 1 every meeting, the promoter is obviously going to look elsewhere for a signing that can score 3 or 4 points a meeting especially if those are the points between winning and losing a meeting. As I said, the PL and EL clubs are businesses... their not charity cases. Whats the average price of a PL meeting now? £16? Whos going to pay that to watch the likes of Brendan Johnson and Luke Priest? If you make it compulsory that two young brits have to ride at reserve, then those are the type of riders that are going to be signed by PL clubs and no offence to those named but they will never ever be anything more than NL second strings at best. You can give them Chris Holders bikes and they still wouldnt be any better. How many times have Glasgow offered deals to young Brits only for them to turn them down due to travel? No wonder theyve turned to young Aussies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Good post i do agree, there is no one at the mo missing out it might change though hope so.Maybe somebody like a Greaves or Stoneman comes out of the woodwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 How many times have Glasgow offered deals to young Brits only for them to turn them down due to travel? No wonder theyve turned to young Aussies. How many times did they offer the young Brit help with digs, workshop and transport like they did the Aussies? A young rider from the south of England would have to average 4 just to pay for getting to and from home meetings before he spent a single penny on his racing equipment let alone actually eat! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 How many times did they offer the young Brit help with digs, workshop and transport like they did the Aussies? A young rider from the south of England would have to average 4 just to pay for getting to and from home meetings before he spent a single penny on his racing equipment let alone actually eat! Depends what the demands are of a young Brit ,this is probably taken into consideration when looking at Young Aussies that would become assetts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 That's one of my points, the asset system as it stands actually works against young British riders. The other is that the case of clubs from the north being turned down for places by British riders is often used to claim lack of determination (as it was in this case I think) when there are riders who would willingly do the job if only offered the same deal as their supposedly more dedicated foreign counterparts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 That's one of my points, the asset system as it stands actually works against young British riders. The other is that the case of clubs from the north being turned down for places by British riders is often used to claim lack of determination (as it was in this case I think) when there are riders who would willingly do the job if only offered the same deal as their supposedly more dedicated foreign counterparts. Reality is that nobody knows the Deals on offer,most of the figures banded about are just rumours or hearsay,just like when you hear some of the demands made by the riders. Hats of to Joe Jacobs for at least giving Glasgow a try, hope that it pays off for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 That's one of my points, the asset system as it stands actually works against young British riders. The other is that the case of clubs from the north being turned down for places by British riders is often used to claim lack of determination (as it was in this case I think) when there are riders who would willingly do the job if only offered the same deal as their supposedly more dedicated foreign counterparts. Young foreigners can come here and just ride Speedway. British youngsters need to work - or they're at school/college and depend on parents - rather than a Club - to pay for everything and transport them to meetings etc.. They can't just concentrate on their riding like those who come over and get helped by clubs. It;s a false economy by Clubs and creates inequality between British and foreign riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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