PHILIPRISING Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 DENMARK have now joined Sweden in pulling out of the proposed Champions League for 2013 which just leaves Great Britain. Nothing wrong with the basic concept but until all the practicalities are resolved it will remain a pipe dream in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 DENMARK have now joined Sweden in pulling out of the proposed Champions League for 2013 which just leaves Great Britain. Nothing wrong with the basic concept but until all the practicalities are resolved it will remain a pipe dream in my opinion. Shame. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Davis Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Well blow me down! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Looking forward to the Poole v Swindon final to decide the champions of europe 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 So what are the hurdles? Haven't read much into it tbh, a link would be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 lets be honest it was a total non starter - some riders might have had 3 or 4 clubs that they were signed to all involved! Who the hell would they have ridden for? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 I think the hurdles are obvious. Agreeing which riders ride for what team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) I think the hurdles are obvious. Agreeing which riders ride for what team That's one.... hurdles is plural. In years passed the rider who rode for both teams only rode for the home side. Doing the same thing would be no more ridiculous than the British League guest facility. Edited March 4, 2013 by Deano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Said years ago it's a stupid idea that'll never happen. Still dont see that changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Davis Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Would be a farce of a competition 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudleywood4eva Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Riders riding for several teams across europe, team strengths different (ie swedens elite lge much stronger than britains), fitting it all within a v busy domestic schedule - just 3 issues off the top of my head. Great idea but a bit of a no go really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Riders riding for several teams across europe, team strengths different (ie swedens elite lge much stronger than britains), fitting it all within a v busy domestic schedule - just 3 issues off the top of my head. Great idea but a bit of a no go really. Cheers. Get the gist now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 DENMARK have now joined Sweden in pulling out of the proposed Champions League for 2013 which just leaves Great Britain. Nothing wrong with the basic concept but until all the practicalities are resolved it will remain a pipe dream in my opinion. Strange you didn't share this opinion before it was cancelled ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 What a shame and not for the want of a lot of hard work by Alex Harkess amongst others. Mainly down to pay rates, I gather, as it had been decided which teams riders would represent, based upon either their country of origin or the team they had been signed to the longest. To even up team strengths, the British teams could have dropped their 6 and 7 and replaced them with other club assets - in Poole's case eg Lindback and Walesek. For Swindon, not sure, as they don't seem to do assets!! Anyway all a bit academic now, but an even bigger disaster for retaining the Sky contract!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthebuilder Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Yep,always is/was going to be difficult to organise,unlike football where you can only represent one team in Europe,riders riding for multi teams will always lose credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 What a shame and not for the want of a lot of hard work by Alex Harkess amongst others. Mainly down to pay rates, I gather, as it had been decided which teams riders would represent, based upon either their country of origin or the team they had been signed to the longest. To even up team strengths, the British teams could have dropped their 6 and 7 and replaced them with other club assets - in Poole's case eg Lindback and Walesek. For Swindon, not sure, as they don't seem to do assets!! Anyway all a bit academic now, but an even bigger disaster for retaining the Sky contract!!!! Think patchett had bjerre and linus lined up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Thank god, it's off (for now). A champions league in speedway sounds good in theory, but would not be such a good thing in reality for our sport. As long as it isn't one man / one club as in football, this will always cause problems. Different rules in the respective nations domestic league competitions does not make it any easier (Denmark for example has five-man teams in their league). What would work is a tournament for national teams, eg. England v Sweden, Poland v Denmark, Australia v Russia. Each rider would know where he belongs. But that would generate TV money only for the national bodies in those countries, and not for the club bosses, so the BSPA would probably not be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Strange you didn't share this opinion before it was cancelled ! MY opinion hasn't changed at all. A European Cup or league, call it what you will, is great in theory but not in practice for all the reasons stated here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Thank god, it's off (for now). A champions league in speedway sounds good in theory, but would not be such a good thing in reality for our sport. As long as it isn't one man / one club as in football, this will always cause problems. Different rules in the respective nations domestic league competitions does not make it any easier (Denmark for example has five-man teams in their league). What would work is a tournament for national teams, eg. England v Sweden, Poland v Denmark, Australia v Russia. Each rider would know where he belongs. But that would generate TV money only for the national bodies in those countries, and not for the club bosses, so the BSPA would probably not be interested. thats what id like to see happen, with each of those six nations taking on each other home and away over a two year period (so needing to find space in the calendar for 5 tests per nation each year), with a "best of three" series for the top two teams to find the word test champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 MY opinion hasn't changed at all. A European Cup or league, call it what you will, is great in theory but not in practice for all the reasons stated here. Shame really. But cannot disagree with that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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