E I Addio Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) I am, seriously, why should Neil be stripped of his Team GB, and or his poole managerial position?, he's already pointed out he's been mis-quoted, and really and truely, Darcy is not his responsabillity in his homeland. Darcy is old enough and ugly enough to be responsable for his own actions.. whether its at home in this or any other country. Sorry if you feel differently. If Darcy is old enough to be responsible for his own actions then why didn't Muddlo say just that instead of trying to explain it all away? The words "No comment" are known and understood by all PR men. A proper press release on the Poole website would have nipped all this in the bud and then he wouldn't and couldn't have been mis-quoted. Give up trying to defend him. Its not your job and the more you dig the deeper the hole. Edited February 21, 2013 by E I Addio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I feel sorry for Neil Middleditch, put in a no-win situation. As manager of a team he was always going to try and justify the antics of one of his riders. that what team managers do. No doubt he was asked off the cuff, for comments about Darcy and whatever he said, he would be wrong regardless, whatever context it was put in.. We've had pages of people criticising him and that he should be hung from the nearest gallows. but Middleditch is a decent man and don't deserve this persecution. I remember nobody did more then Neil Middleditch, in trying to help Mike Lee when in trouble all them years back. So whatever brush he is tarred with. to me Neil is a decent chap and is welcome round our house any time........... That's more then can be said for that juvenile Darcy Ward...... I suggest posters wake up, put yourself in his position for a moment. Sure he said the wrong thing but hey, we have all said the wrongs things at times in our lives.... Codswallop. Matt Ford had no problems with telling it like it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I rarely post on here as i cant be bother to get into twit for tatt saftness but some of the crap iv read on here is unbelievable, Darcy ward, fantastic rider a true racer, he can ride a bike, speedway would be worse off without him, he's good and he knows it & i hope it all works out for him, have none of u ever done anything silly ???? he's 20 years of age and he's on a well earned break at home with his mates he aint seen all year, the kids having fun or is that not allowed is he the first rider to ever get pissed & smoke weed ????? i doubt it , the difference is he's got caught, lets face it its got nothing to do with you, or the bspa, he aint even in our country. As for neil, he's got a point & thats just the decent kids, there's a good number of Darcys generation running round stabbing and shooting each other, robbing old ladies to feed there crack habbit. To lose his job for saying that, get real, bet if you got your sad ways he'd be hung. None of that rant was aimed at the people who are sticking up for darcy & neil, keep up the fight against the haters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I am, seriously, why should Neil be stripped of his Team GB, and or his poole managerial position?, he's already pointed out he's been mis-quoted, and really and truely, Darcy is not his responsabillity in his homeland. Darcy is old enough and ugly enough to be responsable for his own actions.. whether its at home in this or any other country. Sorry if you feel differently. As for him not knowing the rules, everybody can do things better sat behind a computer screen, can't they Shawn! try standing in the pits under a bit of presure, then see how you cope. Middleditch has done nothing to help the situation apart from some jibberish about him being 'misquoted'. In cases like this, if it's true, you will get a retraction from the newspaper.. has that happened? No, in fact quite the opposite. An immediate clarification from the paper that they stand by the quotes. Middleditch has failed to explain his comments. He has not denied he made the comments. He has failed to come out and condemn Ward for his actions. All points towards the fact he blundered badly and he knows it. As for not knowing the rules Starman.. what a feeble argument you put forward. Its his JOB. His JOB is to know the rules and to know them when 'under pressure' as you call it. If he can't manage it, which you seem to be acknowledging that he can't, he's not fit for the role is he? I rarely post on here as i cant be bother to get into twit for tatt saftness but some of the crap iv read on here is unbelievable, Darcy ward, fantastic rider a true racer, he can ride a bike, speedway would be worse off without him, he's good and he knows it & i hope it all works out for him, have none of u ever done anything silly ???? he's 20 years of age and he's on a well earned break at home with his mates he aint seen all year, the kids having fun or is that not allowed is he the first rider to ever get pissed & smoke weed ????? i doubt it , the difference is he's got caught, lets face it its got nothing to do with you, or the bspa, he aint even in our country. As for neil, he's got a point & thats just the decent kids, there's a good number of Darcys generation running round stabbing and shooting each other, robbing old ladies to feed there crack habbit. To lose his job for saying that, get real, bet if you got your sad ways he'd be hung. None of that rant was aimed at the people who are sticking up for darcy & neil, keep up the fight against the haters Glad you don't rarely post on here if thats the standard of your posting. You are claiming that 'the decent kids' ride unregistered, uninsured bikes whilst drunk AND stoned, flee from the police by riding said bike onto a pavement and across a park? That's not having fun, thats being an irresponsible idiot who puts the lives of others at risk. If you condone that, that says all we need to know about you and your character. Thankfully, you are very much in the minority. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Let's face it, Ward is well known for being as thick as a plank and Middlo cocked up. It doesn't matter how much money Sky tv or Matt Ford put into the sport, none of it seems to filter through to PR. Unfortunately Ward is a big fish in an ever diminishing pond and wouldn't really be missed if he couldn't race in th UK next year, it wouldn't have that much effect in general terms to the sport. Let's just all move on and worry over the next minor drama. It just paints a whole picture of mishandled amateur dicking around, we can all shout in faux indignation but in the grand scheme of things it won't change diddly squat. Neil's time to publicly refute the accusations has passed and Darcy's too damn stupid to realise the rubbish he's caused . Same old, same old . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Middleditch has done nothing to help the situation apart from some jibberish about him being 'misquoted'. In cases like this, if it's true, you will get a retraction from the newspaper.. has that happened? No, in fact quite the opposite. An immediate clarification from the paper that they stand by the quotes. Middleditch has failed to explain his comments. He has not denied he made the comments. He has failed to come out and condemn Ward for his actions. All points towards the fact he blundered badly and he knows it. As for not knowing the rules Starman.. what a feeble argument you put forward. Its his JOB. His JOB is to know the rules and to know them when 'under pressure' as you call it. If he can't manage it, which you seem to be acknowledging that he can't, he's not fit for the role is he? And you could better could you? Yeh right. Not. Again talking behind a computer screen. You wouldn't last 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comebackkings Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I am, seriously, why should Neil be stripped of his Team GB, and or his poole managerial position?, he's already pointed out he's been mis-quoted, and really and truely, Darcy is not his responsabillity in his homeland. Darcy is old enough and ugly enough to be responsable for his own actions.. whether its at home in this or any other country. Sorry if you feel differently. As for him not knowing the rules, everybody can do things better sat behind a computer screen, can't they Shawn! try standing in the pits under a bit of presure, then see how you cope. A shaved chimp could do a better job as Team GB manager, Jokers, tac rides and team selection have been rubbish. Bombers joker ride in the Semi Final was so obvious that most had it written in before the announcement, so what has he actually done as a team manager? Won with a team built on bending and changing the rules, that is not the sign of a good team manager. Helping young Brits in the Elite League, would be a good start, Middleditch would be a better Team Australia manager, at least we might get a chance when he cocks up a tactical ride with them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 A shaved chimp could do a better job as Team GB manager, Jokers, tac rides and team selection have been rubbish. Bombers joker ride in the Semi Final was so obvious that most had it written in before the announcement, so what has he actually done as a team manager? Won with a team built on bending and changing the rules, that is not the sign of a good team manager. Helping young Brits in the Elite League, would be a good start, Middleditch would be a better Team Australia manager, at least we might get a chance when he cocks up a tactical ride with them... Again, another one talking behind a computer screen. Again you wouldn't last 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comebackkings Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Again, another one talking behind a computer screen. Again you wouldn't last 5 minutes. So posting behind my real name is hiding is it? Starman2006, that's some name, did your parents not like you? Not having had the opportunity to manage a team, how do you know how long I would last? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 So posting behind my real name is hiding is it? Starman2006, that's some name, did your parents not like you? Not having had the opportunity to manage a team, how do you know how long I would last? Thats not even worth a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remembertheracers Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Darcy Ward is clearly the Michael Lee of 2012/3. A tragic waste of a great talent on a bike, but a disaster in bed, socially and any other aspect you care to think of. Middlo is a nice guy but has achieved very little given the powerful Poole teams he has managed. No one, even the more grounded Rosco. could do much better with the limited GB talent available to him. The difference is in 1980 speedway was still a major attraction. Today, and I hate it, the sport is a joke. Ward is a walking disaster, Middlo should have said no comment. End of... Edited February 22, 2013 by remembertheracers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Thats not even worth a reply. Which is what you did! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 And you could better could you? Yeh right. Not. Again talking behind a computer screen. You wouldn't last 5 minutes. Yes, I can categorically state 100% that I would make a better job of knowing the rules than Middleditch if that was my job. Again, another one talking behind a computer screen. Again you wouldn't last 5 minutes. Says the man talking behind his computer screen........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Well the fine was paid pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Can we just remember that Darcy is 20 years old not a kid! At that age he should have far more maturity than he shows and he shouldnt need anyone to keep an eye on him. As for Middleditch he should be sacked, he represents GB abroad and in the press and those comments are disrespectful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Good. Now we have someone with access to facts. The journo who interviewed Middleditch but botched up the quote should be named and shamed, at the least. The Echo don't agree that it was "botched up", they stand by their reporter and the quotes. The journalist still has her notes from the interview if needed and insist he wasn't mis-quoted. Aside from saying he was mis-quoted on Twitter it's interesting to notice that Middleditch has done nothing towards trying to get the situation cleared up over his alleged mis-quoting... I think those calling for Middlo's head are going over the top. The reason being is that he has been misquoted in the press so you, nor I, know what he really said. Until you know exactly what he said you can't judge him properly. So you admit that you don't know what he "really" said yet you know he's been mis-quoted? Amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 The Echo don't agree that it was "botched up", they stand by their reporter and the quotes. The journalist still has her notes from the interview if needed and insist he wasn't mis-quoted. Aside from saying he was mis-quoted on Twitter it's interesting to notice that Middleditch has done nothing towards trying to get the situation cleared up over his alleged mis-quoting... I agree entirely. Perhaps I should have indicated my sarcasm a little more obviously in my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 If Darcy is old enough to be responsible for his own actions then why didn't Muddlo say just that instead of trying to explain it all away? The words "No comment" are known and understood by all PR men. A proper press release on the Poole website would have nipped all this in the bud and then he wouldn't and couldn't have been mis-quoted. Give up trying to defend him. Its not your job and the more you dig the deeper the hole. It's a good point, Middlo and some of the Poole fans need to stop digging 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Have the Echo printed an apology for the mis-quote yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) You'll never get an apology from our local rag whether its deserved or not. Edited February 25, 2013 by sugarray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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