montie Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 After such foolish comments he's shouldn't need to be sacked...he should be penning his resignation ASAP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Putting speedway aside, I just don't understand what his thinking is in making these comments?? Surely as a father to justify wards actions... Which btw could have killed somebody is not very well thought out. Bang goes his babysitter of the year nomination for the 3rd year running 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamber Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Riders have been banned for less than what Ward has done...He has just heaped up a load more pressure on himself..EVERYWHERE and i mean everywhere he will be in the spotlight...can he handle it?? who knows time will tell whether he is another flawed genius.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 I couldn't beleive what I read ande had to read it again to be sure the comments were Middlo's. This is the NATIONAL team manager saying it's fine to break the law! To be fair, he didn't actually say it's fine to break the law. But he did hamfistedly attempt to mitigate Ward's gross stupidity and recklessness by making up a sweeping generalisation that has no foundation at all. Even worse in my opinion, he tried to minimise Ward's actions by distancing it from speedway racing - incredibly he seems to think it's somehow less serious if a rider's misconduct takes place away from the track. Any credibility Middleditch had as a team manager is gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 These supposed comments were published in our local rag, where true comments are distorted dreadfully. Â Not condoning Neil's comments or Darcy but you can never believe The Echo stories. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS18 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 What Middleditch was probably thinking: Young people do stupid things, unfortunately. I have done it, he and most of the people who judge him so harshly have made mistakes which should not be repeated. We should ask him what was he thinking when he made this comment. It is not the end of the world, if he does a good job as a Team GB manager than leave him alone. Ward is an adult and Middleditch is not a babysitter or a guardian of Darcy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Arent we making a bit to much of this,apart from the local rag and the Speedway Star Id be surprised if this story made any of the national papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Further to my earlier post, I like a few others can see that Middlo may have been misquoted. It also seems from the postings of Poole fans that the newspaper involved is notorious for reshaping quotes etc ( which I will have to take on trust ). These two factors still don't change my view that Middlo should go. If the paper is that notorious, Middlo, who lives in it's catchment area, should know and be very wary of any quote he gives. It brings into question his judgement again. If there is even a grain of truth in the quote it would seem Middlo is still trying to defend Ward's actions to a degree and condoning drug taking and driving under the influence. That's not even taking into account the slur on the majority of law abiding young people. If the quote is completely fictitious I expect to see a statement to that effect at the very least and a possible court case to follow. As I said before Middlo is a NATIONAL team manager and has a reputation to protect ( I mean his BTW, Ward's was lost quite some time ago). Maybe Matt Ford, whose quotes in the same unreliable newspaper have been spot on, should also get some help and advice for his team manager in how to deal not only with the riders in his team but how to deal with the media. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkox Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 These supposed comments were published in our local rag, where true comments are distorted dreadfully. Â Exactly what I thought. Â Why do people usually assume if it is printed in a newspaper it must therefore be true?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelcroucher Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 1 Darcy is a good rider on the track but an idiot of the track. Last year he was in Court in the UK and now this in his own country. What he has done is not acceptable and I think that he needs to grow up and not ride for Poole for at least a year. If he was caught then he would have had a criminal conviction and with that in mind he should be banned for a year. He needs to gorw up and with Neil saying what he has done will not help him as he probably looks up to Neil as a manager. And as he does live with Neil in this country what does he get up to in his house before a meeting.   2 Neil he shouldn’t get the sack but he should not be the manager of Poole as he should set examples and if he thinks youngest can drink and take drugs and be in control of a motorbike then he is as stupid as Darcy is. Neil should also leave as the National Team manager for the same reason.  3 If people are unhappy about what Neil has said then maybe us the fans we need to start a petition and get the message across to BSPA that we don’t want Neil as a Manager for our Nation. What do people think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Â Â Exactly what I thought. Â Why do people usually assume if it is printed in a newspaper it must therefore be true?? Â You're quite right, i wouldn't either. So, Matt Ford seems to be taking a hell of a risk giving such a long interview/press release to the same puveyor of untruths today. You'd think he would know better. Â Or is it only Mr Middleditch that offers opinions that we must beware of being misquoted? Edited February 21, 2013 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 You're quite right, i wouldn't either. So, Matt Ford seems to be taking a hell of a risk giving such a long interview/press release to the same puveyor of untruths today. You'd think he would know better. Â Or is it only Mr Middleditch that offers opinions that we must beware of being misquoted? Â Matt Ford's interview is with the Sports Dept - the initial story came via the Editorial/News department. Â As they deal with the Sports Dept journalists daily I'd imagine the trust is there to give a longer interview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Matt Ford's interview is with the Sports Dept - the initial story came via the Editorial/News department. Â As they deal with the Sports Dept journalists daily I'd imagine the trust is there to give a longer interview. Rubbish. Matt Ford's quote is in the exact same article. Â Matt Ford makes very sensible comments that he doesn't condone Ward's actions, and he thinks he should get professional help before he ruins a good career. Â Middleditch's comments are those of a prat. He thinks all youngsters get drunk, smoke pot, ride unregistered, uninsured vehicles on the road and flee from the police. He thinks drunk druggies shouldn't be on a speedway track, but it's ok for them to endanger innocent life on the ordinary roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Rubbish. Matt Ford's quote is in the exact same article. Â Matt Ford makes very sensible comments that he doesn't condone Ward's actions, and he thinks he should get professional help before he ruins a good career. Â Middleditch's comments are those of a prat. He thinks all youngsters get drunk, smoke pot, ride unregistered, uninsured vehicles on the road and flee from the police. He thinks drunk druggies shouldn't be on a speedway track, but it's ok for them to endanger innocent life on the ordinary roads. Â It's not rubbish at all. I'm certainly not condoning what Middlo is 'claimed' to have said, I am merely pointing out that Middlo's comments have been put in by the Editorial/News dept. Totally seperate to Ian Wadley of the Sport department to whom Matt Ford has given his comments. Â At the bottom of the 'News' story it states 'More reaction from Matt Ford in Echo Sport.' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 It's not rubbish at all. Of course it's rubbish. Â You're claiming the comments that you like are genuine, but the comments that you don't like have been made up. Â They're not separate items in two separate news reports and sports reports. Both comments are in the same article which will have gone through the same sub-editor and editor. They couldn't include something in quotation marks if it wasn't said, else they would be open to libel action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Of course it's rubbish. Â You're claiming the comments that you like are genuine, but the comments that you don't like have been made up. Â They're not separate items in two separate news reports and sports reports. Both comments are in the same article which will have gone through the same sub-editor and editor. They couldn't include something in quotation marks if it wasn't said, else they would be open to libel action. Â I'm claiming nothing of the sort. There are no comments that I have a particular like or dislike for in either item, genuine or otherwise. Â I was responding to the statement that: Â "Matt Ford seems to be taking a hell of a risk giving such a long interview/press release to the same puveyor of untruths today. You'd think he would know better" Â What I am saying is that Matt Ford gave his long interview to the Sports Dept, not the News/Editorial department that have used the Middlo quotes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Â Â Exactly what I thought. Â Why do people usually assume if it is printed in a newspaper it must therefore be true?? Â Because there are serious consequences if they intentionally mis-quote people. Today Middleditch has said he was misquoted, the Echo have said that what they printed was accurate and the reporter has it in her written notes and they stand by the article. So now it's either up to Middleditch to take it further - if he truly believes he has been wronged, or to do nothing about it as he knows what he said. I think it'll be the latter personally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Â Â It's not rubbish at all. I'm certainly not condoning what Middlo is 'claimed' to have said, I am merely pointing out that Middlo's comments have been put in by the Editorial/News dept. Totally seperate to Ian Wadley of the Sport department to whom Matt Ford has given his comments. Â At the bottom of the 'News' story it states 'More reaction from Matt Ford in Echo Sport.' Â Â Ian Wadley's report in the Sport section gives a fuller account of Ford's views. But the snippets included in the News report are just shortened versions of the same that have been very accurately and fairly reprised. So why should we fear that the same reporter has been so unfair on Middleditch alone? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ian Wadley's report in the Sport section gives a fuller account of Ford's views. But the snippets included in the News report are just shortened versions of the same that have been very accurately and fairly reprised. So why should we fear that the same reporter has been so unfair on Middleditch alone? Â You are bang on - snippets have been used in the News/Editorial story taken from the same interview. This report was not put together by Ian Wadley of the Sports dept, the fuller version was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 So your story is changing already Reliant Robin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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