Darcy Showing What A Pro He Is Again

[Mad Potter 2]

When it doesn't effect your ability to do you job and doesn't cause harm to anyone else it's acceptable.

 

Darcy, Chris and Troy will still be able to race speedway this week. Nobody was hurt or injured as far as we're aware so it doesn't matter.

 

 

If they are sober?

[aslan]

You rarely see top professional sportsmen in very physical sports drink alcohol like crazy during season because it's going to effect their performance. I think that in speedway you can often get away with drinking without it having a big impact on your riding. But the big difference between speedway (and any other motor sport) and most other sports is that alcohol is prohibited during competition and seen as doping. And the reason for that is pretty obvious. Even though you might even benefit from using a little alcohol to calm your nerves, relax and get the courage to drive a little more bold, there is also big risks involved. You lose your good judgement and are prepare to take higher risks, maybe even drive a little bit careless and reckless. But you will not only endanger your own safety but also the other riders on the track. A professional speedway rider owe it to him self an all others involved in the sport to be well rested and sober when competing. And even if it been a few days since a rider have been out drinking, we all know that it takes a couple of days to get back to "normal" even though you are completely sober. And not nearly all of of know at what rate our bodies burn of alcohol. Two people that drink exactly the same amount of alcohol will be alcohol free at different times. Some people will literally take days to get completely sober. This is why a competitor in motor sport should stay off alcohol as much as possible during the season. It's not only that it absolutely never look good to be out drinking heavily during season, it's that you never really know when the alcohol has left you body, and what effects it will have on you even after it's left. You might feel good and think your fine but maybe it makes you take an unnecessary risk or lose your concentration for a moment and someone gets hurt or even killed. Speedway is and will always be a high risk sport, but at least the riders owe it to be well rested and as prepared as they can be. There's no need adding to the risks by drinking.

Edited April 18, 2013 by aslan

[Pinny]

 

 

Oh FFS, that is a pathetic and stupid post to make

How is it? Someone said you wouldnt see an olympic star doing it and i stated what an olympic star has recently done!!

[wjm]

I have read the “they are role models” line a few times on this thread, anyone that places or has the need to use a professional sportsman as a “role model” for either themselves, or the children they are bringing up, is off their nut IMO.

[stevebrum]

Darcy & Holder both poor for Poole tonight.

Maybe need to spend less time drinking and brawling & more focusing on their speedway.

 

Would you expect an oylmpics star to be out getting drunk all the time cos their young or would you expect to see themworking hard for the sport they love?

 

Well Said.

 

 

Oh FFS, that is a pathetic and stupid post to make.

 

But by Pinstripe it is a `usual` type response. No wonder no one takes him seriously. But what a ridiculous comment to make, but i am not surprised.

[wjm]

Olympic athletes were put on a pedestal during the summer, an example to follow, an inspiration, “why cant our footballers be more likely the Olympians”.

 

It is a fair point, Oscar Pistorius was one of the “role models” of the summer.

 

The following article highlights issues far greater than Ward and Holders....

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2190409/London-2012-Olympics-Drug-cheats-prospering--Dick-Pound.html

[BWitcher]

I have read the “they are role models” line a few times on this thread, anyone that places or has the need to use a professional sportsman as a “role model” for either themselves, or the children they are bringing up, is off their nut IMO.

 

Then most kids in the world are 'off their nut'. The vast majority have heroes, idols that they look up too.

Edited April 18, 2013 by BWitcher

[Pinny]

Nobody takes me seriously? You should go and have a quiet word with yourself before you make such remarks - even Wolves fans ridicule you at any opportunity!!!

 

Someone said you wouldnt see an Olympian doing such things and i pointed out that one recently blasted his mrs to death. How is that pathetic?

 

I agree Ward does himself no favors at all but for 16-25 year olds espiecially, this behavior is far from un common. Getting thrown out of a pub is a day to day going on in any city or town in the uk. So is urinating in the street, as vile as it is you see it all the time.

 

The press are basically picking up on anything Ward does and its getting beyond a joke.

 

Like i said, all you lot want to go in walkabout on gp weekend and see how the so called professionals behave because i can assure you 100 percent if you think this latest ward story is bad then youll be stunned.

 

 

[wjm]

Bit of a difference between a sports star you like, and a “role model”.

 

A “role model” is someone that you aspire to be like, a good example to follow.

 

Parents who pass of sportsman as a “role model” for their kids, nah not for me.

 

Going to a speedway meeting and saying “be like that guy under a helmet who you know literally next to nothing about, thats who you should aspire to be”.

 

Ward, Holder, Batchelor, they are professional athletes, guys doing a job, that is all.

[SteveLyric2]

Just to add a couple of comments on this. Firstly, Darcy wasn't poor last night against Wolves, he had a 2nd and 2 wins before crashing out whilst attempting to overtake Freddie and Tai!! Secondly, wasn't the 'post-meeting' celebration in Torun an official club function, attended by Torun officials, sponsors, mechanics, riders (from both teams) and fans!! To be clear, I am in no way condoning their behaviour - particularly Holder's - but would question whether things would be considered better or worse, if the 'story' hadn't been in the media?! It'll be interesting to see if Torun officials take any action?? For those quoting the 'role model' argument, I thought the sport was failing to attract a younger audience anyway, so another box ticked then?!

Edited April 18, 2013 by Skidder1

[Gemini]

......ThePinstripe....... Like i said, all you lot want to go in walkabout on gp weekend and see how the so called professionals behave because i can assure you 100 percent if you think this latest ward story is bad then youll be stunned.

 

Just glad I've only ever been interested in watching riders on the track and never met any or have any wish to otherwise I'm sure my illusions would be shattered.

Incidentally how refreshing to read young Joe Haines comments in this weeks Speedway Star about only having "a beer or two in the Winter when not racing." I hope he goes far in his chosen sport.

[Star Lady]

Couple of things spring to mind reading the comments on this thread.

 

1 If the World Champion of speedway indulges in this kind of behaviour, and I am only going on reports on this thread, what does it say about the standards of professionalism in Speedway. Bit of a rhetorical question really

2 Who the heck do all the drunken idiots on a Friday and Saturday night think clears up their puke and swills down the pavements of their urine? They might think it's big and clever to no longer be in enough control of their bodily functions to be unable to make their way to a toilet. I think they are pathetic and I don't care if " all young people in this country do it". It's disgusting and I hope when they fall down or stagger their way home they manage to find a pile of dog poo that an equally irresponsible person had not cleared up .

[Gavan]

Couple of things spring to mind reading the comments on this thread.

 

1 If the World Champion of speedway indulges in this kind of behaviour, and I am only going on reports on this thread, what does it say about the standards of professionalism in Speedway. Bit of a rhetorical question really

2 Who the heck do all the drunken idiots on a Friday and Saturday night think clears up their puke and swills down the pavements of their urine? They might think it's big and clever to no longer be in enough control of their bodily functions to be unable to make their way to a toilet. I think they are pathetic and I don't care if " all young people in this country do it". It's disgusting and I hope when they fall down or stagger their way home they manage to find a pile of dog poo that an equally irresponsible person had not cleared up .

 

hope you reading this statement pinstripe and dave minall! summed up in a nutshell

[Pinny]

I still maintain that getting drunk and play fighting in a bar is hardly worthy of being slated for. The pissing in a doorway bit is wrong but do we know if that was Ward? Or was it Holder or Batchelor??

 

The main point is people like the media are picking up on everything Ward is doing - why isnt their a separate thread for Batchelor and Holder as they were involved?

 

I dont agree with all of what they have done but in my generation since going to the pubs and clubs at the age of 16 until my current age of 24, ive seen people getting slung out of bars, messing about fighting with their mates, boys pissing in doorways and alleyways, people spewing their guts up in the middle of the road etc every single weekend in various citys... In a nutshell this latest story is not worthy of the attention its receiving.

 

If it was Holder and Batchelor on their own we would probably know nothing about it, its the fact Ward was there too that the media are blowing everything out of proportion.

 

But drinking is a huge part of todays generations lives, the aussies are notorious drinkers and always have been.

 

Ward still turns up on track, passes regular alcohol tests and trys 100% on track whilst entertaining and scoring shed loads of points earning lots of money, why the hell should I or any of us care about him having a drink or ten after a meeting in a foreign country?!

 

I appreciate the fact that some people purely dont like booze and that , each to their own, but the older members of this forum should listen to the younger ones like me, dave minall etc as were regularly out and see exactly what goes on on a night out .

 

You have dentist chairs everywhere now in clubs where you have some ###### in a nurses outfit pouring spirits down your throat whilst your being spun round, you have ten shots of sambuca for a fiver, you have 1 pound drinks in most clubs... The alchohol culture is a huge factor in todays youth.

 

I will admit that Darcy is silly enough to regularly be seen in the thick of the action but believe you me, ive seen many more riders behave a lot worse behind closed doors and this rider was recently praised for how much time he gives to his fans and sponsors.

 

Do not think worse stuff goes on - it does and always will, just some are a bit more sensible than Ward and keep it away from the public domain. But getting tanked up regularly is no more or less professional if the fans know about it or not

[stevebrum]

hope you reading this statement pinstripe and dave minall! summed up in a nutshell

 

[SCB]

I still maintain that getting drunk and play fighting in a bar is hardly worthy of being slated for. The pissing in a doorway bit is wrong but do we know if that was Ward? Or was it Holder or Batchelor??

 

The main point is people like the media are picking up on everything Ward is doing - why isnt their a separate thread for Batchelor and Holder as they were involved?

 

I dont agree with all of what they have done but in my generation since going to the pubs and clubs at the age of 16 until my current age of 24, ive seen people getting slung out of bars, messing about fighting with their mates, boys pissing in doorways and alleyways, people spewing their guts up in the middle of the road etc every single weekend in various citys... In a nutshell this latest story is not worthy of the attention its receiving.

 

If it was Holder and Batchelor on their own we would probably know nothing about it, its the fact Ward was there too that the media are blowing everything out of proportion.

 

But drinking is a huge part of todays generations lives, the aussies are notorious drinkers and always have been.

 

Ward still turns up on track, passes regular alcohol tests and trys 100% on track whilst entertaining and scoring shed loads of points earning lots of money, why the hell should I or any of us care about him having a drink or ten after a meeting in a foreign country?!

 

I appreciate the fact that some people purely dont like booze and that , each to their own, but the older members of this forum should listen to the younger ones like me, dave minall etc as were regularly out and see exactly what goes on on a night out .

 

You have dentist chairs everywhere now in clubs where you have some ###### in a nurses outfit pouring spirits down your throat whilst your being spun round, you have ten shots of sambuca for a fiver, you have 1 pound drinks in most clubs... The alchohol culture is a huge factor in todays youth.

 

I will admit that Darcy is silly enough to regularly be seen in the thick of the action but believe you me, ive seen many more riders behave a lot worse behind closed doors and this rider was recently praised for how much time he gives to his fans and sponsors.

 

Do not think worse stuff goes on - it does and always will, just some are a bit more sensible than Ward and keep it away from the public domain. But getting tanked up regularly is no more or less professional if the fans know about it or not

The Moran brothers are considered by most to be legends of the sport, yet they spent 90% of their careers pissed. Back in them days they were called characters. Darcy is getting rubbish because he's Darcy this time IMO.

[Pinny]

Exactly.

 

 

[BWitcher]

Bit of a difference between a sports star you like, and a “role model”.

 

A “role model” is someone that you aspire to be like, a good example to follow.

 

Parents who pass of sportsman as a “role model” for their kids, nah not for me.

 

Going to a speedway meeting and saying “be like that guy under a helmet who you know literally next to nothing about, thats who you should aspire to be”.

 

Ward, Holder, Batchelor, they are professional athletes, guys doing a job, that is all.

 

I don't think you are quite grasping it.

 

Role models/heroes are not chosen by the parents. They are chosen by the kids. I'm not saying it's right that they are viewed as such, but they are.

 

The Moran brothers are considered by most to be legends of the sport, yet they spent 90% of their careers pissed. Back in them days they were called characters. Darcy is getting rubbish because he's Darcy this time IMO.

 

I was waiting for someone to bring up the Moran brothers.

 

Perfect examples. Most say they are 2 of the most naturally talented riders to ever race, Kelly especially. Kelly got by on his natural talent but he only ever reached a certain level. Had he had the professionalism of a Nielsen, who knows what he could have done.

 

I agree that back then they were called 'characters' though.

 

Darcy isn't getting rubbish just because of this incident, we have seen 3 very recent occasions that have shown, Ward + alcohol = bad things happen. His own promoter Matt Ford has said he has a problem. Yet barely weeks into the season there's already another incident regarding Ward + alcohol. That's why there's lots of comments on it.

[wjm]

 

 

I don't think you are quite grasping it.

 

Role models/heroes are not chosen by the parents. They are chosen by the kids. I'm not saying it's right that they are viewed as such, but they are.

 

No, I am grasping it....

 

There is a difference between a sporting hero, and a role model.

 

I like Darcy Ward

 

I want to live my life like Darcy Ward

 

They are different things.

 

 

[BWitcher]

Not to kids there isn't. You don't choose role models for them, they choose themselves.

 

wjm, I'm not suggesting that the riders 'have to' act like role models, but kids do view them as such.. its how kids are.

 

Although, this is speedway, so there aren't that many kids who even know who he is

Edited April 18, 2013 by BWitcher