Mad Potter 2 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Thought I had read that Titanium could be used on bikes this year(Speedway Star). Looking on The FIM World Championship Web site under Bike Spec. it states. The bikes have a fairly simple set up and cannot be enhanced by any of the following means: 2nd restriction. Be constructed in any part from Titanium. So can they or can't they use Titanium? Edited February 10, 2013 by Mad Potter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I understood that they can use Titanium, and several riders have already commented against it's introduction since the decision. It is said to increase the costs but surely riders at all levels don't have to use Titanium, just stick with the standard constructions materials and let riders in the GP's make their own decisions about using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Potter 2 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Agree Tsunami but they nearly always do i.e. Lay downs, leading forks etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Fell into this trap myself when racing radio controlled cars over the UK years ago. Everyone wants the latest spec'd up piece of equipment and they raced it, I did the same. I left the sport for two years and came back. I raced against the same people with the latest spec'd up cars with my two year old car. I still beat them. Basically, it'll only be the big guys who will pinch and see the odd 0.25 seconds per race and benefit. National League, Premier League levels, keep it reliable, use decent parts and use your skill. Edited February 10, 2013 by Deano 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 British Speedway can't afford Titanium or the current silencers, ditch 'em both. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Agree Tsunami but they nearly always do i.e. Lay downs, leading forks etc. I agree, riders think they have to be on the latest rocket ship, especially is someone else can be twisted to pay for it. In many cases it is fashionable and doesn't make a deal of difference to that rider. Psychologically yes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I agree, riders think they have to be on the latest rocket ship, especially is someone else can be twisted to pay for it. In many cases it is fashionable and doesn't make a deal of difference to that rider. Psychologically yes. It looks good. That's usually as good as they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 It looks good. That's usually as good as they get. Yes, and with some that is the main reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Potter 2 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I agree, riders think they have to be on the latest rocket ship, especially is someone else can be twisted to pay for it. In many cases it is fashionable and doesn't make a deal of difference to that rider. Psychologically yes. Its the same as always the minority want it & can afford it. Where as the majority cant afford it but have have it to keep up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Its the same as always the minority want it & can afford it. Where as the majority cant afford it but have have it to keep up. To be fair. If someone told me that a certain driver would give me an extra 30 yards, I would probably buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Its the same as always the minority want it & can afford it. Where as the majority cant afford it but have have it to keep up. Build one bloody good reliable bike and not two. Beg borrow and steal for the meeting if you go through the fence with it. Learn to ride it and ride it well. Skill and smooth riding on the fastest line (not necessarily with the fastest bike) will always be better than several fast blasts and a big wobble. Edited February 10, 2013 by Deano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little-End Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Peter Johns has recently posted on Twitter and Facebook that he has built a Motor with Titanium parts and run it and he was pulling it apart to see wear etc ...... So it`ll be in England this Year , an advantage ...? .. Jurys out here - we`ll see Maybe Peter would like to comment ?? Lucky Edited February 10, 2013 by Little-End Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixy230 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Sponsor a couple of good riders with engines = they fly = people then queue to buy them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) It looks good. That's usually as good as they get. titanium valves ,conrods, valve rockers look good do they ? you have never seen any of these items or will ever understand the difference they make or the expense of them . thats more than likely why the Technical committee allowed the use of twit because they thought it looked good and made them look like they knew what they were talking about . Edited February 11, 2013 by speedibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Fell into this trap myself when racing radio controlled cars over the UK years ago. Everyone wants the latest spec'd up piece of equipment and they raced it, I did the same. I left the sport for two years and came back. I raced against the same people with the latest spec'd up cars with my two year old car. I still beat them. Though having never ridden competetive speedway, the two sports are amazingly similar in that sense that if you're head is right, it's yours to take away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Though having never ridden competetive speedway, the two sports are amazingly similar in that sense that if you're head is right, it's yours to take away. stick to playing with toys , Lewis Bridger proved that everything you just said is bullrubbish on friday at Somerset . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 stick to playing with toys , Lewis Bridger proved that everything you just said is bullrubbish on friday at Somerset . He won? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 He won? He wanted to prove your theory by riding an upright , tried it and got drubbed by national league riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 He wanted to prove your theory by riding an upright , tried it and got drubbed by national league riders So basically he thought he'd beat everybody because he has the kit to do it... Thats not what I meant in the original post. Finished reading the silencer story on the latest Spar 5 minutes ago where it says that with the new titanium valves Jan Andersson can produce 1,5 hp more from an engine. If they now take out 75hp easily, what are you gonna do with an extra 1,5 if your clutches are Jawa and your mental toughness can be swiped from the track in pieces every time you were meant to pass someone from the outside... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Fell into this trap myself when racing radio controlled cars over the UK years ago. Everyone wants the latest spec'd up piece of equipment and they raced it, I did the same. I left the sport for two years and came back. I raced against the same people with the latest spec'd up cars with my two year old car. I still beat them. Remember brass darts? It goes back a few years doesn't it? But then along came tungsten darts...and with the option of TITANIUM stems too! Well every pub player had to have them didn't they? The chance of cramming more darts into that treble twenty was too hard to resist. But do you think that the standard of pub darts improved in the slightest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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