Krzysztof Kasprzak Testimonial Meeting 11/9

[hail_to_the_shale]

As it seems that no one has mentioned it already I am going to mention it now on the 11th September 2013 is Kris's testimonial meeting at poole stadium on wimbourne rd......

people have been saying on the poole forum does he qualify for a testimonial meeting considering that he has ridden for other clubs and not always ridden in Britain but I would say yes considering that he has belonged to the same club for the 10 years.

[Gavan]

testimonials are different nowadays. very rare for a 1 club 10 year rider. Chris Louis springs to mind. Where as Mark Loram rode for most of the league but in memory dont think he had a testimonial. i may be wrong.

 

in my eyes kasprzak though a good rider has flitted in and out of british speedway so in my eyes doesnt really deserve one

[pugwash]

Kris signed for The Pirates as a schoolboy and all he wanted to do was ride for the Pirates but because of stupid points limits Matt hasn't been able to fit him in. It ain't Kaspers fault.

[Gavan]

i know its not his fault but what you are saying is join a club in 2003 ride maybe 4 or 5 seasons out of 10 for 3 different clubs and then be granted a testimonial.

 

Kasprzak is a good rider, nice bloke and its nothing against him at all.

 

Just dont feel he deserves a testimonial and bumper pay day for his services either to British speedway or Poole.

 

Surely Lindback should be due one soon by your reckoning

[Pinny]

Well no because Lindback hasnt raced in the UK since 2007 and hasnt shown any interest in it since.

[Dave Jones]

I am going to say that I will attend this meeting, and then when the big day comes I just won't turn up.

[Gavan]

Well no because Lindback hasnt raced in the UK since 2007 and hasnt shown any interest in it since.

 

as i said due one soon. sorry just think testimonials are thrown round like confetti these days for riders who basically dont really deserve it.

 

its not an anti poole thing or anti kasprzak

 

if you think kk is deserving of a testimonial rather than say someone like Lindgren who has raced here for the same team for god knows how long and has continually been in the top 5 or so of the averages. im not Lindgrens biggest fan but i would rather see him have a bumper pay day then someone like kasprzak

[SteveLyric2]

Whilst I don't agree with the current rules on qualification for a testimonial, I nevertheless feel that any rider who risks their life (eg. Argentina today!!) everytime they go out on a speedway bike and who is granted a testimonial, should be properly supported!

[Gavan]

Whilst I don't agree with the current rules on qualification for a testimonial, I nevertheless feel that any rider who risks their life (eg. Argentina today!!) everytime they go out on a speedway bike and who is granted a testimonial, should be properly supported!

 

im not talking about the guys risking life and limb, we are all grateful to these guys for the shows they put on everytime they endanger themselves to entertain us.

 

i think it is irrelevent to this though. i am just saying to many testimonials handed out thats all

[pugwash]

Hey, it isn't mandatory to attend. If you don't agree with it then don't turn up. You wont be missed.

Matt wants to put on a testimonial, KK agrees, a good booking of riders & a couple thousand fans turn up, we all have a good evening.

Also if Matt wanted to put on a testimonial for Anton, why shouldn't he? He can put on a testimonial for Gordon the Tramp if he wants to.

[Gavan]

Hey, it isn't mandatory to attend. If you don't agree with it then don't turn up. You wont be missed.

Matt wants to put on a testimonial, KK agrees, a good booking of riders & a couple thousand fans turn up, we all have a good evening.

Also if Matt wanted to put on a testimonial for Anton, why shouldn't he? He can put on a testimonial for Gordon the Tramp if he wants to.

 

i wont be going but thats not because of who it is just where it is, to far for me.

 

i stick by what i say. testimonials used to be 10 years service to one club but now more like 10 years to british speedway thats fine.

 

but still if you think kk or lindback are deserving then so be it.

 

just had a thought im an ipswich fan so surely we should have 1 for Gollob and Hampel?

[pugwash]

Why not? CL could stage whatever he wants if he thought that the fans would attend.

How's about a Gollob v Boycey showdown?

Edited February 3, 2013 by pugwash

[Pinny]

i wont be going but thats not because of who it is just where it is, to far for me.

 

i stick by what i say. testimonials used to be 10 years service to one club but now more like 10 years to british speedway thats fine.

 

but still if you think kk or lindback are deserving then so be it.

 

just had a thought im an ipswich fan so surely we should have 1 for Gollob and Hampel?

 

You really are just trying to make an argument out of nothing.

 

Where has anyone stated Lindback is due a testimonial?

 

I am under the impression these meetings are given for 10 , 20 or 30 years to British Speedway. KK has done ten.

 

Where have I stated that KK is more deserving of one than Lindgren? Lindgren is having his as well, so whats the fuss?

 

KK is one of a few top class Poles who have always shown a willingness to ride in this country.

 

There are plenty of riders down the years who have had testimonials without committing to the same club for the said amount of time.

 

It seems you are just trying to make an argument but as per usual your theory holds no water.

[hail_to_the_shale]

i started the post to make people aware that he is having a testimonial meeting and i personally think that he is a brilliant guy that thoroughly deserves the meeting if it was not for the stupid ruling about averages and how many top riders you can have i am sure that people would have been seeing him at wimbourne rd this season

[Gavan]

You really are just trying to make an argument out of nothing.

 

Where has anyone stated Lindback is due a testimonial?

 

I am under the impression these meetings are given for 10 , 20 or 30 years to British Speedway. KK has done ten.

 

Where have I stated that KK is more deserving of one than Lindgren? Lindgren is having his as well, so whats the fuss?

 

KK is one of a few top class Poles who have always shown a willingness to ride in this country.

 

There are plenty of riders down the years who have had testimonials without committing to the same club for the said amount of time.

 

It seems you are just trying to make an argument but as per usual your theory holds no water.

 

not just trying to make an argument.

poole forum some people have said is he deserving of one

my argument is no he doesnt. he is a nice guy its not against him or poole

 

always shown a willingness? very questionable

he has flitted in and out for 10 years

 

if you dont like opinion then why come on a forum.

 

i dont believe he has shown commitment to british speedway in the last 10 years to warrant a testimonial

[SteveLyric2]

Entitled to your opinion, but you seem to be basing it on 'he has flitted in and out for 10 years' as if it was his choice?! Its only the change of averages/team building limits and the occasional intervention of his Polish teams that have stopped him competing over here every year.

 

As I said previously, I don't agree with the current testimonial rules either, but thats what they currently are and I hope any/every rider who is granted one gets decent support on the day.

[Gavan]

im all for a rider getting decent support on the day as they risk a lot for us the paying public.

 

as was asked "do i think kk deserves a testimonial" my answer is no, thats my opinion.

 

i just get sick of people like pinstripe who assume its an anti poole thing all the time. its not and neither is it anything against kasprzak who seems to be a nice guy, good rider, isnt dirty.

 

i still satnd by what i said that to many are given out.

[Pinny]

im all for a rider getting decent support on the day as they risk a lot for us the paying public.

 

as was asked "do i think kk deserves a testimonial" my answer is no, thats my opinion.

 

i just get sick of people like pinstripe who assume its an anti poole thing all the time. its not and neither is it anything against kasprzak who seems to be a nice guy, good rider, isnt dirty.

 

i still satnd by what i said that to many are given out.

 

For crying out loud, your yet again making things up!!! Where have I stated its anti Poole? Your the one whos brought Poole into this, not me!

 

KK has given British Speedway ten years of service, just like many other riders down the years have done and been granted a special meeting.

 

The days of being awarded a meeting for riding ten full seasons for one club are long gone, just look down the list of riders who have had a testimonial over the ast few years.

 

Your getting stick from me because in one topic you have made three arguments up... nobody said KK was more deserving of a testimonial than Lindgren, nobody said Lindback was due a testimonial and nobody has mentioned it being to do with Poole.

 

You get stick on this forum because of posts like the ones youve contributed here!

[Gavan]

if you read what i wrote i said people 'like pinstripe' who assume its anti poole. im getting that in first before there are the moronic poole fans like shovlar saying that im sayin all this because he rides for Poole.

 

i was using Lindgren as an example of a deserving rider

and i said that if kk should have one then so should Lindback along the fact he has been an asset for a while. never once said that anyone other than me said these things.

 

i will stand by what i said kk does not deserve a testimonial either for services to one club or services to british speedway. again that is my opinion but im using Lindgren and Lindback as support thats all.

 

If KK gets one than i hope its a good turn out with good safe racing im not against these guys earning money for what they do.

 

Mark Loram never had a testimonial and he never stayed at one club to long but his services to the sport here was immense. We only gave him a farewell meeting once he had retired

[Pinny]

So you used the term "People like Pinstripe" despite me mentioning nothing about Poole? Yeah that makes sense!

 

Lindgren fully does deserve a testimonial because he has ridden for 10 full seasons for Wolves as an asset. Thats good loyalty and its fully deserved.

 

However, KK actually came to these shores before Lindgren and has always shown a desire to ride here, his Polish clubs have made things difficult for him sometimes but he has always maintained he is keen on riding British Speedway hence signing for clubs like BV when left out by Poole rather than sitting back in Poland waiting for a better offer.

 

Lindback has not raced a full season here since 2006 and only came here at the back end of 2003, so despite being an asset of Poole for ten years he has raced only three seasons for them roughly and has shown zero interest in a job here except for his stint at BV in 07. Why he has even been mentioned is beyond me... the difference is clear cut... KK has raced here for ten seasons, Lindback hasnt. End of story. How you can say your using Lindback as support I do not know, Lindbacks scenario has nothing to do with this argument.

 

I can kind of see your point regarding KK getting one despite not racing for the same club for ten years however many, many riders have been granted ten year testimonials despite racing for various teams during that time span.

 

Maybe Loram didn't want a testimonial... Craig Watson was offered one and never had one nor did he have a farewell meeting.

 

Don't assume that because they never had testimonials they didn't want one.

 

So you used the term "People like Pinstripe" despite me mentioning nothing about Poole? Yeah that makes sense!

 

Lindgren fully does deserve a testimonial because he has ridden for 10 full seasons for Wolves as an asset. Thats good loyalty and its fully deserved.

 

However, KK actually came to these shores before Lindgren and has always shown a desire to ride here, his Polish clubs have made things difficult for him sometimes but he has always maintained he is keen on riding British Speedway hence signing for clubs like BV when left out by Poole rather than sitting back in Poland waiting for a better offer.

 

Lindback has not raced a full season here since 2006 and only came here at the back end of 2003, so despite being an asset of Poole for ten years he has raced only three seasons for them roughly and has shown zero interest in a job here except for his stint at BV in 07. Why he has even been mentioned is beyond me... the difference is clear cut... KK has raced here for ten seasons, Lindback hasnt. End of story. How you can say your using Lindback as support I do not know, Lindbacks scenario has nothing to do with this argument.

 

I can kind of see your point regarding KK getting one despite not racing for the same club for ten years however many, many riders have been granted ten year testimonials despite racing for various teams during that time span.

 

Maybe Loram didn't want a testimonial... Craig Watson was offered one and never had one nor did he have a farewell meeting.

 

Don't assume that because they never had testimonials they werent allowed them... many riders get offered them I suspect yet choose not to have them.