Hilly Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Wolves were +6 with VC earlier, on current form this is the selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 If you look round the bookmakers you will find the they are both giving plus starts on both teams on tonights matchups. What a great betting chance of making money. If the clown Orion had another brain cell he would know what a great way of winning money tonight.live meeting is. Instead he will come back and just slag me off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 If you look round the bookmakers you will find the they are both giving plus starts on both teams on tonights matchups. What a great betting chance of making money. If the clown Orion had another brain cell he would know what a great way of winning money tonight.live meeting is. Instead he will come back and just slag me off How can you call someone a clown when you reckon you got a system that takes no account of odds or who rides for both teams ? as I ask you before put your bets up before the start like you used to ...I know you won't because when they did they all used to get beat as your a clueless mug punter . Tell me how this system of yours that takes no account of odds and riders managed to pick out poole for the double that time or Ippo for the pl the next year ...did you close your eyes and put a pin in the paper ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletor Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 This has nothing to do with betting on my match betting on League matches which I will Not disclose. In other words you don't have one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 My system tonight, bet in Tai or Freddie in every heat they're in. Not sure how ill play heat 13 and 14 yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 How can you call someone a clown when you reckon you got a system that takes no account of odds or who rides for both teams ? as I ask you before put your bets up before the start like you used to ...I know you won't because when they did they all used to get beat as your a clueless mug punter . Tell me how this system of yours that takes no account of odds and riders managed to pick out poole for the double that time or Ippo for the pl the next year ...did you close your eyes and put a pin in the paper ? You are not smart enough to work out that if two teams are racing each other and the bookmakers are asking plus starts to both teams you have got great betting odds . It's much better for you to slag me off than be able to work anything out for yourself. Ditto Skeletor. It's to do with maths more than betting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 You are not smart enough to work out that if two teams are racing each other and the bookmakers are asking plus starts to both teams you have got great betting odds . It's much better for you to slag me off than be able to work anything out for yourself. Ditto Skeletor. It's to do with maths more than betting. nobody has questioned that, people are asking about your system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) You are not smart enough to work out that if two teams are racing each other and the bookmakers are asking plus starts to both teams you have got great betting odds . It's much better for you to slag me off than be able to work anything out for yourself. Ditto Skeletor. It's to do with maths more than betting. What has that got to do with your system and when did I say that if both teams having + starts was not good odds ? you just made that up yourself, have you the post when I ever said that ? why do try to change subject all the time with made up stuff ? And I said before little point you going on and on ..saying you can win money and how easy it is ...just put your bets up on league racing before the meeting and then we can all judge otherwise don't comment as saying you won money after the event means nothing as we can all do that . we all remember when you put your bets up on here before and most of them lost . Edited April 29, 2013 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 What has that got to do with your system and when did I say that if both teams having + starts was not good odds ? you just made that up yourself, have you the post when I ever said that ? why do try to change subject all the time with made up stuff ? And I said before little point you going on and on ..saying you can win money and how easy it is ...just put your bets up on league racing before the meeting and then we can all judge otherwise don't comment as saying you won money after the event means nothing as we can all do that . we all remember when you put your bets up on here before and most of them lost . I have said i will put up my bets for this Saturday's GP at Ullevi and I am sure many people will be interested on what I have to say but if you keep critising what I say I will not bother. What is your problem.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 My system tonight, bet in Tai or Freddie in every heat they're in. Not sure how ill play heat 13 and 14 yet. That worked well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) I have said i will put up my bets for this Saturday's GP at Ullevi and I am sure many people will be interested on what I have to say but if you keep critising what I say I will not bother. What is your problem.? Because the debate has nothing having to do with betting on gp racing it was about head to head rider match up's and league racing ...my problem is that you talk complete and utter rubbish when it come to betting on speedway and sports betting in general..no doubt your be back on here soon telling us how the odds have changed in a speedway match thou under your system you don't take any notice of them Edited April 29, 2013 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Be great if everyone put there selections on before the events so we can see how we do? this year i have had a couple of close calls in the GPS.Ended up down at the moment but have done ok in the individual rider match ups in the league saying that mostly at short odds.I thought Mick used to always put his selections up if my memory is right did ok in the main. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Be great if everyone put there selections on before the events so we can see how we do? this year i have had a couple of close calls in the GPS.Ended up down at the moment but have done ok in the individual rider match ups in the league saying that mostly at short odds.I thought Mick used to always put his selections up if my memory is right did ok in the main. Not really in the old days he used to delete and edit his posts if they got beat ...you correct thou Sidney people should put there bets up before hand and even more so if they want to boost how great .they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 1 Tai Woffinden Over 12 Elite League 29/04 - Tai Woffinden (Rider Total Points) 29/04/2013 None 23/20 Won Chalk one up for the mug punters!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Not really in the old days he used to delete and edit his posts if they got beat ...you correct thou Sidney people should put there bets up before hand and even more so if they want to boost how great .they are You are right 'Orion' if everyone did that it would be good this is how good i am at betting.For me if i can hold my own i am happy about 3 years ago i put 250 in my bet fair account now i have about 160 my aim was to have some fun and not get down to zero.I have had millions of reversals but if you expect to lose and can afford to it does not matter that much.I can't stand people who never tell us about there losers only there winners god i have had plenty of losers over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 You are right 'Orion' if everyone did that it would be good this is how good i am at betting.For me if i can hold my own i am happy about 3 years ago i put 250 in my bet fair account now i have about 160 my aim was to have some fun and not get down to zero.I have had millions of reversals but if you expect to lose and can afford to it does not matter that much.I can't stand people who never tell us about there losers only there winners god i have had plenty of losers over the years. Yep Us who gamble tend only to go on about are winners I can be as guilty as the next person ..These head to head matches and rider point scores thou not my cup of tea are the same as any other bet sometimes your going to see a good chance to win money ,to just say that it is a stupid bet because your not sure how many rides someone might take is crazy ...For example if Woffy was put up at say 5/6 to score over 7 points last night we would all be on it in a flash we would not be put off by not being sure how many rides he might take. The example giving about Leigh Adams missing the last heat so he could not Score over 12 is another stupid one ,if you think he might do that then don't bet on him scoreing over 12 no one is forcing you to do so . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonA303 Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Coventry were -2 on the spread last night (-4 on some bookmakers!). I was so surprised I thought I'd missed something. Anyway, Wolverhampton at +2 was a no brainer! I only spread bet and only bet when I think I have the edge! I've bet in the past just for the sake of it and come unstuck. 9 out of 10 so far this season! Maybe I'm just lucky, but I'll keep going and see if it keeps working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Yep Us who gamble tend only to go on about are winners I can be as guilty as the next person ..These head to head matches and rider point scores thou not my cup of tea are the same as any other bet sometimes your going to see a good chance to win money ,to just say that it is a stupid bet because your not sure how many rides someone might take is crazy ...For example if Woffy was put up at say 5/6 to score over 7 points last night we would all be on it in a flash we would not be put off by not being sure how many rides he might take. The example giving about Leigh Adams missing the last heat so he could not Score over 12 is another stupid one ,if you think he might do that then don't bet on him scoreing over 12 no one is forcing you to do so . Value wise those head to head matches are poor,last year i did Ward to score 13 or more once he was on 12 and then had a ef.The price i think was 4/6 so in a way longterm you would lose just for the fact that you have to put more down.I do like those match ups though,this year i Had 6 winners at the Cheltenham festival had Ted Veale 10s and Back in focus 9/2 included.Added up all my liabilities ante post ect) and was still 30 quid down it is hard to make money you have to be disciplined.If i had a bet on the tv meeting tonight i would back Cook to beat Auty heat 1( hope Auty wins) Dyer to win heat 2 Auty( with no falls?)to out score Howarth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 What about Poole to win the double your biggest bet ever ? you got that on ....it's amazing that all your winning bets never get put up on here before the start ....you don't have to put you system on here just put your bets up here before the start then we can judge if your a winning punter ...the fact is you won't because your not . Sorry for the late reply on this one. I'm into my punting big time (speedway and most other sports) and didn't release there was a thread on here about it. Whats this about someone saying they had a bet on Poole to win the double? I can't recall ever seeing odds at the start of the season on a team to win the KOC. I always back a team to win the EL and a rider to the win the world title so I watch the markets closely at the start of a season so i'm pretty sure this is bullsh*t. Apologies if this has been answered back in the thread but I can't be arsed to read through it all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 1 Tai Woffinden Over 12 Elite League 29/04 - Tai Woffinden (Rider Total Points) 29/04/2013 None 23/20 Won Chalk one up for the mug punters!! Bet you were getting worried when they were 20-odd up going into the last race that Tai wouldn't be nominated though You are right 'Orion' if everyone did that it would be good this is how good i am at betting.For me if i can hold my own i am happy about 3 years ago i put 250 in my bet fair account now i have about 160 my aim was to have some fun and not get down to zero.I have had millions of reversals but if you expect to lose and can afford to it does not matter that much.I can't stand people who never tell us about there losers only there winners god i have had plenty of losers over the years.Exactly how I gamble too tbh. I don't expect to become rich. I do it for a bit of fun. As I see it in 3 years you've lost £90, so £30 a year, thats less that 8 pints a year you have lost but obviously you have had the enjoyment of having a bet. So while you may be a "mug" who has lost £90 over 3 years, how much have you "lost" down the pub? Going to the speedway? and doing any other number of leisure activities? I put about £100 into a handful of betting accounts a few years ago, still have about that, give or take in them. Im laughing though because I took £4,000 out of a Ladbrokes account at the end of 2010 so even if I lose the same £30 a year that you lose then i would need live to 160 to end up a loser over all anyway Do I make money gambling (other than EL champions 2010 bet)? No, not at all if I'm honest. Do i mind making a lost of £50 on a night watching the speedway? No, because I'm confident I'll make similar back in another meeting soon enough give of take a tenner. I made about £130 last night just betting on Tai and Freddie in every race - as i see it, I've more than made up for the rubbish week I had last week! Whats this about someone saying they had a bet on Poole to win the double? I can't recall ever seeing odds at the start of the season on a team to win the KOC. I always back a team to win the EL and a rider to the win the world title so I watch the markets closely at the start of a season so i'm pretty sure this is bullsh*t. Apologies if this has been answered back in the thread but I can't be arsed to read through it all! I backed Reading to do the double in '06 when they were cheated by the TR It does happen from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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