orion Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 That bet alone will mean I'm almost certain to never end up paying bookies more than they've paid me Mick had his biggest bet ever on Poole that year to win the league the funny thing was he never posted after the final intill march the next year ..ever after this and all the other losers he's given out he's still thinks people should listen to his advice !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Mick had his biggest bet ever on Poole that year to win the league the funny thing was he never posted after the final intill march the next year ..ever after this and all the other losers he's given out he's still thinks people should listen to his advice !! Id feel bad mocking him for that after feeling like I'd just been mugged after the Peterborough/Reading final all excited after heats 10 and 11 and then calling Jim Lynch all the nasty names imaginable after heat 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Mickthemuppett still misses the point ...if all the head to head bets had won or all would have would lost over the last two days it would have made no difference at all to the point being made ...this bet is the same as any other you have a opinion on the bet then you place money if think it's good . Hate to break the news to you Mick but most bets tend to losing ones hence why bookmakers make profits you should know that after all the losing speedways bets you given over the years intill you first started to delete your posts and then stopped all together after you done your balls on poole to win the league and the double the other year why the clowns like me and sbc got on cov at 300-1 . I've still never backed a national winner, think it's why most people use Micks logic and avoid betting on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I've still never backed a national winner, think it's why most people use Micks logic and avoid betting on it Most of the nation do bet on it thou ...and just like any other sport they lose . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooksy Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 so after the last two nights Speedway we have had the following bets on head to heads or highest scores Schlein +3 v C Holder Lose PUK Over 10 Win Klindt v Strayra lose for all the punters who did not follow my advise over the last two nights of live speedway on head to heads or riders Scores . The results are two correct and eight wrong. Then you have clowns like Orion saying I have got it wrong. Remember avoid H2H and correct scores like the plague Thanks for the advice Mick, but you're wrong! The only bets to avoid 'like the plague' are the ones where the odds are stacked against you. Nothing wrong with head-to-heads, etc so long as the odds/handicap on offer is attractive. In fact, a 2 horse race generally offers the punter the best value, as the bookies mark-up will be less than say in a 16 runner GP field. But as a serious punter, I'm sure you're well aware of this!? Take the Klindt v Stachyra match up last night for example. Neither likely to score many points but Klindt likely to get more. Neither could take more than 4 rides. So Klindt (- 0.5) @ 10/11 or even 4/5 seemed great value to me, but Klindt (- 3) at same odds, not so good, so leave alone. Simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Thanks for the advice Mick, but you're wrong! The only bets to avoid 'like the plague' are the ones where the odds are stacked against you. Nothing wrong with head-to-heads, etc so long as the odds/handicap on offer is attractive. In fact, a 2 horse race generally offers the punter the best value, as the bookies mark-up will be less than say in a 16 runner GP field. But as a serious punter, I'm sure you're well aware of this!? Take the Klindt v Stachyra match up last night for example. Neither likely to score many points but Klindt likely to get more. Neither could take more than 4 rides. So Klindt (- 0.5) @ 10/11 or even 4/5 seemed great value to me, but Klindt (- 3) at same odds, not so good, so leave alone. Simple. Why couldn`t Klindt or Stachyra have more than 4 rides ? Klindt max was 6 (incl heat 15 if eligible) and Stachyra 5 (incl heat 15 if eligible ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Kings Lynn -4 Schlein +3 > Holder Doyle > Bridger Are mine for tonight (so far!) Candy from a baby, only let down by the Schlein/Holder one which couldn't of been much closer. All this talk of not betting on head-to-head, surely the Doyle > Bridger from scratch was absolutely nailed on? There was no reason at all not to take that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeanti Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Bet 365 have odds on Swindon v Eastbourne tonight. Handicap of 16. Surely worth money on Swindon ( Now -+18 ) Edited April 25, 2013 by googlehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Shields is finished Edited April 25, 2013 by Jepsen Jensen Fan Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 On swindon -16 tht looks gd to me they beat poole by 17 so heaven knows wat they will do v eastie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooksy Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Why couldn`t Klindt or Stachyra have more than 4 rides ? Klindt max was 6 (incl heat 15 if eligible) and Stachyra 5 (incl heat 15 if eligible ) Sorry, forgot about Stead's r/r - even more reason to back Klindt then! But as for Klindt or Stachyra in ht.15?? If that happened, I would assume the bet was settled some time before then. In fact, the day Stachyra appears in ht.15 is the day I give up gambling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I'm on Swindon at -18 (4/5), can see their powerful top 5 giving the Eagles a really tough time tonight. Prediction 58-32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Is mickthemuppet going to come on and warn people about handicap betting now? As it seems quite a few have lost backing Swindon tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Ah well, that David Luiz goal saved me from a losing night overall. Eagles surprised me tonight, expected more from the Robins. Maybe a couple of quid on the Aces tomorrow night, we'll see.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Is mickthemuppet going to come on and warn people about handicap betting now? As it seems quite a few have lost backing Swindon tonight. Yes Mick the Muppet will come on now. I have never suggested not backing one team to beat another. I suggest you go back and read my posts properly. If you read what say my issue is backing riders to score so many points but not know how many rides they are going to have . It's like backing a horse in a handicap but not knowing what weight it will be carrying. Would anybody do that except you know who from Swindon Edited April 25, 2013 by mickthemuppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Yes Mick the Muppet will come on now. I have never suggested not backing one team to beat another. I suggest you go back and read my posts properly. If you read what say my issue is backing riders to score so many points but not know how many rides they are going to have . It's like backing a horse in a handicap but not knowing what weight it will be carrying. Would anybody do that except you know who from Swindon I never said you did but everyone who posted no here backed Swindon on the handicap, the handicap moved from -16 to -18 so plenty of other must have backed Swindon, they all lost. So using your logic of people losing so nobody should bet on that kind of bet you should not be against handicap betting. The point I'm trying to make is that sometimes, people lose bets, sometimes, people win them. Most people will lose, it's the nature of the game. But most dont care, the buzz of the occasional win is enough. Nothing is free these days and what ever way you get your enjoyment will cost you money, some like to go to the pub and think nothing of spending £50-80 on a night out. Some enjoy spending £35 on a ticket to watch football. Some are happy to accept they may lose £50 a week gambling. Edited April 25, 2013 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Yes Mick the Muppet will come on now. I have never suggested not backing one team to beat another. I suggest you go back and read my posts properly. If you read what say my issue is backing riders to score so many points but not know how many rides they are going to have . It's like backing a horse in a handicap but not knowing what weight it will be carrying. Would anybody do that except you know who from Swindon What are you on about now ...when your betting on a normal speedway match part of the skill when making the bet is trying to figure out how many rides a rider might take if a reserve will take 6 or 7 riders who can take the rr etc etc ...Your telling people that when having a bet on a normal speedway you don't look at any of that ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 No idea how he bets on GPs either, you just dont know who is going to be int he final. I mean who would bet on the winner of a race not knowing which 4 riders were going to be in it, madness!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 The biggest laugh of all is that Mick was telling people to back Finnish riders before in head to head betting in the world cup at Kings lynn a could of seasons ago . No doubt if he saw Hans to score over 5 tonight he would not take it as he would be unsure on how many rides he might take :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 P'boro v BV tonight could see an away win in my opinion, B365 are offering BV+6 (21/20) and Bet Victor are BV+9 (5/6) I've gone for the +9 and also a little on an outright away win from scratch You pays your money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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