oldace Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 sorry for my poor english in my last post, I was suggesting it was an open discussion to see what you all feel a firm should pay for it, not come back with suggestions of what kind of company would be best associated to the exposure/sport... I have an idea of what a company would pay for it in comparison to other forms of motorsport for the coverage received IF you take the TV coverage away which seems may well happen. The Sky contract was an extremely good offer and the BSPA/GoSpeed etc. should be congratulated for this.... I cant say on a public forum, but this is why I was opening it up to the sports fans to have a punt at it. I wanted to sponsor a couple of brits this year but due to the way the world is, thats been put on hold for the immediate future. Are you really in marketing. You think the type of company a product is being pitched to has no bearing on the price. OK to try it your way. The value of Elite League sponsorship to my business would be £0. So there is the answer then. Elite League sponsorship is worth nothing!!!!! You really are a wally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Are you really in marketing. You think the type of company a product is being pitched to has no bearing on the price. OK to try it your way. The value of Elite League sponsorship to my business would be £0. So there is the answer then. Elite League sponsorship is worth nothing!!!!! You really are a wally Oldace the guy was trying to start a debate and gets abuse for his troubles does he deserve it.? If you are not interested in a subject why bother if anyone is the Wally it's you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Oldace the guy was trying to start a debate and gets abuse for his troubles does he deserve it.? If you are not interested in a subject why bother if anyone is the Wally it's you! I'm with oldace - he's full of it "wanted to sponsor a couple of Brits" tosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'm with oldace - he's full of it "wanted to sponsor a couple of Brits" tosh You are welcome to him, do you know the bloke personally so why would you want to slag him? sad really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 You are welcome to him, do you know the bloke personally so why would you want to slag him? sad really. Because he posts nonsense and gets responses accordingly. What has knowing him got to do with anything ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Because he posts nonsense and gets responses accordingly. What has knowing him got to do with anything ? I can say the same of about you but until now wouldn't of said anything, you remind me of Victor Melldrew god talk about doom and gloom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 I can say the same of about you but until now wouldn't of said anything, you remind me of Victor Melldrew god talk about doom and gloom. Well answer the guys question then Sidney. How much is sponsorship worth And I have a question as well. How much is a race point worth? I know the answer just wanted to start a debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Well answer the guys question then Sidney. How much is sponsorship worth And I have a question as well. How much is a race point worth? I know the answer just wanted to start a debate All i am saying is don't bother with the thread if you are not interested,why try to belittle the bloke. Edited January 31, 2013 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 All i am saying is don't bother with the thread if you are not interested,what try to belittle the bloke. I am not trying to belittle him, he is doing that himself. You seem to be bothering with a thread you are not interested in just to have a pop at me, it is OK for you though is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 So, how much IS it worth? £6m? I'm not interested. Can I pay in instalments? How about £15 a week? I'll take it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 All i am saying is don't bother with the thread if you are not interested,what try to belittle the bloke. Because that's what Oldace and Backless do.....it's like Morecambe and Wise, a double act, but not funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Because that's what Oldace and Backless do.....it's like Morecambe and Wise, a double act, but not funny. We were engaging in debate with this Storm character before Sidney waded in with his size 9s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 We were engaging in debate with this Storm character before Sidney waded in with his size 9s Ray Stadia is right it is hardly debate is it by calling him a Wally, he starts the thread yet gets the .... taken out of him.As for Oldace has he ever got anything positive to say? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 If a couple of posters on this thread typify the demographics of your average speedway supporter; then the value is f*** all! Sorry to be so rude but ignorance begets ignorance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 sorry but the lad posted absolute nonsense, contradicted himself loads. I actually think he's taking the pee and some of you have fallen for it. He's belittling you - not the other way round 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 sorry but the lad posted absolute nonsense, contradicted himself loads. I actually think he's taking the pee and some of you have fallen for it. He's belittling you - not the other way round We cant be far off the "Storm Marketing is KKS" post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormMarketing Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Let me rephrase the question then while you all act like children (well most of you).... The debate for discussion is "What would the value be of sponsoring both the Elite League and Premier League as a sponsor say over 1-2-3 years".... "how would would you guesstimate it is worth as a speedway fan, what would you expect to see etc. Someone said the value to their business £0 - thats not the question... imagine a company has identified speedway as fitting to what their company brand defines, how much would you "speedway fans" suggest its worth..... the only positives is that Speedway offers national coverage as there are clubs up and down and across the country, combined gates x the number of meetings would be on par if not higher than another form of motorsport that gets a lot of national companies involved. Negative side, its a sport in chaos, its in decline, not many big names, and by going by this forum..... not so intelligent fans.... re: any sponsorship also may I add I think you will find not many companies are doing anything at the moment because there is a worldwide decline its called a recession, not sure if the person who questioned this watches the news at all?? I hope for improvement in the latter 2 1/4's of this year though going from forecasts so never say never 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Let me rephrase the question then while you all act like children (well most of you).... The debate for discussion is … A bit rich, coming from Mr "I know how much but I'm not saying, I'll let those without any knowledge or experience of the subject to make totally uninformed guesses". Are the fictitious clients of your fictitious marketing company impressed that, in the pursuit of perfection you've relinquished all grasp of the English language? "The debate for discussion"??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 ask "the know" on here ,he has ploughed a fair bit into sponsorship of speedway This is a good question and in all things it is only worth what someone is willing to pay. Speedway as a marketing tool is very poor due to the nature of its followers. We have sponsored, many Elite clubs, World champions down to riders starting. We have sponsored the SGP, Grand prix and World cups.In general everything top to bottom. i would estimate our cost to be in the region of 1 million give or take. ( what do they say about a fool and there money LOL ) Our income from speedway in this time i would say is about 0, LOL. The thing is i have found most sponsors do it as they like speedway. Sponsors coming into the sport with the promise of how many people watch it and go and the work they will get are mis lead and dont hang around long. Go back 10 years and see how many are still here. No one who goes to speedway wants to by our products as they dont really need them. Maybe if the sponsor sold products the everyday person uses and can afford it would be differant. ( BIC razors or the like ) But you would never make a profit on speedway i dont believe. The people running speedway , sgp or domestic believe the product is worth far more than it is. I would say with falling crowds an no young people comeing and no tv the sport is worthless, even with tv it is worth very little. This is my opinion B4 everybody shoots me down as normal,dont get me wrong we have enjoyed our time doing it and would not change it but anyone coming into speedway sponsorship thinking they will make money are wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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