Deano Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 At the moment. But if 6 tracks were chucked out on their ears along with anything up to 36 riders, do you suppose they would sit around talking about t'old days? They wouldn't they have a business to run, bills to pay and a governing body that wishes to be involved. Lets hope some common sense is used. The last thing we want is a Rugby Union and Rugby League type split in speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obrien48 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 It's alright slagging off the BSPA/SCB but what if next year the UK Speedway Series decides to run every Friday? Then the year after decided to run twice a week? Then it realises, hang on, we could set up our own league? The SCB have to stop it now. If they grow their promotions that quickly they'll be doing something very right considering the state of the ahem - sport in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Why is the general consensus on this thread that the series will only be staged at PL tracks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 If they grow their promotions that quickly they'll be doing something very right considering the state of the ahem - sport in this country. They wouldn't need to "grow their promotions" - supposedly there would be 6 track &36 riders not doing anything. Why is the general consensus on this thread that the series will only be staged at PL tracks? Because from the field announced so far, it's not going to fill EL tracks - unlike their dud-foreigner filled teams do week in week out. Lets hope some common sense is used. The last thing we want is a Rugby Union and Rugby League type split in speedway. God no, we wouldn't want speedway to be in the state of Rugby League & Rugby Union, would we? It's a million miles away from happening I suppose, the BSPA will simply back down rather than lose their assets & tracks, but if it DID split the whole way, it would be more like Darts these days. One league like the PDC, vibrant & full of new ideas, the other like the BDO, cosy, retro & somewhere to take your knitting. We can but dream. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Use of the word Speedway, I don't see SCB would have a leg to stand on. Cycle Speedway has been around since the 1920's and it's governing body is British Cycling so surely the MCF could claim discrimination if it forced it to drop the word Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Christ there's a lot of nonsense and naive posts on this thread. Orion has summed it up perfectly already. Some two bit organisation comes along and wants to run some speedway meetings. They don't even have the savvy to do a minimum amount of research to realise this is not going to happen. A load of guys quizzing around on their mx bikes is one thing. However some on here like to moan, speedway is a professional sport in the UK and is run just like football, albeit on a much smaller scale. I couldn't come along and organise a football series of Team Gb v Brazil, hire a stadium and make a killing by putting out Rooney, Bale etc. the FA would not allow it, and neither would the SCB. If these guys want to run an event using motor cross riders on motor cross bikes, they "might" have stood a slight chance of hiring a track. Though I doubt they would get peission to do even that. I'll though out concept by a bunch of amateurs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Bunch of amateurs who have Red Bull as one of their series title sponsors, run events at the prestigous O2, Odyssey, LG and Echo arenas and even have guaranteed TV coverage for their Minibike Championships in 2013. Perhaps the professionals at the BSPA should pay attention to these 'amateurs' as they seem to do some things very well and be growing quickly, remind me just how fast Speedway is growing at the moment. Usually I tend to side with the promoters when they are being knocked on the forum but this time I really believe they could have made a very big mistake by not working with these people rather than against them. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 So good they didn't do a little research into who can run speedway in the UK. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) With the exception of post #166. I think most on here who are against the series, are not suggesting the MCF cannot/don't organise and run apparantly successful events in MX, motorcross etc. The main issue is that under current regulations, to run a 'Motorcycle Speedway' event in this country, you have to have the SCB/ACU on board. The organisers appear to have ignored this and attempted to go ahead anyway. The upshot of it all is confrontation rather than agreement - which ultimately could prove damaging to many - riders, teams, supporters etc...... Edited February 8, 2013 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 On their official facebook page, Leicester have said they are not staging round 1 despite it being advertised on the UK Series website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Christ there's a lot of nonsense and naive posts on this thread. Orion has summed it up perfectly already. Some two bit organisation comes along and wants to run some speedway meetings. They don't even have the savvy to do a minimum amount of research to realise this is not going to happen. A load of guys quizzing around on their mx bikes is one thing. However some on here like to moan, speedway is a professional sport in the UK and is run just like football, albeit on a much smaller scale. I couldn't come along and organise a football series of Team Gb v Brazil, hire a stadium and make a killing by putting out Rooney, Bale etc. the FA would not allow it, and neither would the SCB. If these guys want to run an event using motor cross riders on motor cross bikes, they "might" have stood a slight chance of hiring a track. Though I doubt they would get peission to do even that. I'll though out concept by a bunch of amateurs. there are already , bunches of 2 bit amateurs running meetings off the back of speedway . flat track short track or whatever the rubbish is called this week , the dirt track series which is just grasstrack in speedway stadiums , and the biggest leech of all the GP's all merrily making a quid while the promoters run at a loss to keep the riders and facilities open for them , It doesn't suprise me one bit that Leicester have announced they are not running round 1 . why would they want to risk their success and future aspirations by going against the association they are members of to let some carpet baggers make an easy buck ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 It is terrible that people PAY Speedway promoters to use their tracks, money which they can use to help subsidise Speedway meetings. So far on this thread we've seen people who pay to use Speedway facilities called both parasites and leeches, can't understand why the promoters involved can't see how they are being abused 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 It doesn't suprise me one bit that Leicester have announced they are not running round 1 . why would they want to risk their success and future aspirations by going against the association they are members of to let some carpet baggers make an easy buck ? Seems to me they were quite prepared to, or were remarkably ignorant of the consequences, until the SCB issued its statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 On their official facebook page, Leicester have said they are not staging round 1 despite it being advertised on the UK Series website. :rofl: very professional of the UK Speedway Series :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 With the exception of post #166. I think most on here who are against the series, are not suggesting the MCF cannot/don't organise and run apparantly successful events in MX, motorcross etc. The main issue is that under current regulations, to run a 'Motorcycle Speedway' event in this country, you have to have the SCB/ACU on board. The organisers appear to have ignored this and attempted to go ahead anyway. The upshot of it all is confrontation rather than agreement - which ultimately could prove damaging to many - riders, teams, supporters etc...... Steve seems to have hit the nail right on the head with post #166. They are still blathering on about the opening round being at Liecester when it clearly isn't and seem to be under the delusion that the events will be happening when plainly they won't. That says these people could not be called competent whatever they supposedly do elsewhere. It's a shame that this will not probably happen as it could have been of benefit to the sport by virtue of some wider promotion it would not normally get. Instead it's a farce of Kenneth Williams proportion when all it needed was some communication and perhaps co-operation between the two parties and something that benefitted both may well have been sorted out. Instead it makes speedway look stupid and for once this is not speedways fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelcroucher Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I will be supporting the UK Series and going to some of the rounds. It is good to see someone trying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 The BSPA can hardly be accused of being competent, the way they have fiddled and jiggled with the sport (different formats, cups, rules) year-on-year. Perhaps the speedway series peoples deliberastely wanted to stir something up? Perhaps they simply are naive. I've no idea. Even so, I think the SCB slamming the door is short-sighted and counter-productive. Their own statement says they encourage the sport - but I can't see any evidence of that at all, anywhere (let alone in relation to the speedway series). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Even so, I think the SCB slamming the door is short-sighted and counter-productive. The SCB haven't slammed any door. No one has knocked at their door, although it seems someone may have made a bungled attempt at breaking in through the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 :rofl: very professional of the UK Speedway Series :rofl: So, when did Leicester make this turnaround? When did they advise they were pulling out? But, I do agree that it shows a great lack of professionalism for the website to be a few hours out of date. You wouldn't get that from Terry Russell's pet gimp monkey and his 20th century website template. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) :rofl: very professional of the UK Speedway Series :rofl: A missed opportunity I'd call it, if it were to be dropped now. Just think in three years, we could have seen a UK speedway series sponsored by Red Bull. But hey ho this is speedway, we deserve what we get really. Edited February 8, 2013 by Deano 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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