Mark Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Unless a guy can gate he will have no chance at Poole. Hardly any passing again tonight vs Coventry. It used to be a great track but now passing seems hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 WHY is it that the track always gets the blame? Perhaps on this occasion at least the lack of passing was down to the inability of the Coventry riders to do so against a number of Poole riders (Ward, Janowski and Jonasson in particular) who were riding very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 WHY is it that the track always gets the blame? Perhaps on this occasion at least the lack of passing was down to the inability of the Coventry riders to do so against a number of Poole riders (Ward, Janowski and Jonasson in particular) who were riding very well. Â For once i agree, or maybe twice. the track was very good and fair, best i seen for a long time. Didnt pass as the talent in front was world class and too fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 For once i agree, or maybe twice. the track was very good and fair, best i seen for a long time. Didnt pass as the talent in front was world class and too fast. Â MIGHT have to start calling you The Know again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Unless a guy can gate he will have no chance at Poole. Hardly any passing again tonight vs Coventry. It used to be a great track but now passing seems hard. What absolute b/s. The track was the best its been all season. No passing??? Or maybe you meant no passing by any Coventry riders - except Nicholls - despite their very best efforts!! ....and yes I was actually there, not watched it on TV!! Edited August 1, 2013 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Â Â MIGHT have to start calling you The Know again! Â Maybe Phil , LOL. Were coming to Sweden now for the gp, so were need to discuss my return to sanity over a beer or two ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 WHY is it that the track always gets the blame? Perhaps on this occasion at least the lack of passing was down to the inability of the Coventry riders to do so against a number of Poole riders (Ward, Janowski and Jonasson in particular) who were riding very well. What absolute b/s. The track was the best its been all season. No passing??? Or maybe you meant no passing by any Coventry riders - except Nicholls - despite their very best efforts!! ....and yes I was actually there, not watched it on TV!! Â Thanks for the kind words Skidder. I've seen 3 meetings at Poole this season live and passing has been minimal. In fact the riders have struggled on a poor track. Wasn't there last night but TV just as good to make a view. I do not support any team, am not anti Poole, but just want to see good racing when paying my entrance fee. Â I accept the track was at it's best last night, as said by Darcy Ward, but here are some questions for you Skid. Â Haven't the riders (certainly Holder & ward) complained about the Poole track being bumpy especially into the first bend & also inconsistent week to week ? Haven't Poole recently changed their curator and now use G.Richter ? If yes to both then you'll have to admit the track is far from conducive for good racing. Â In 15 heats how many genuine passing moves were there last night after the 2nd bend ? And I do accept Phil's point that passing Ward & Magic would have stretched the very best but they weren't in every heat and only take up one space on the grid bar in heat 13. Nothing stopping the other 3 riders changing places is there. Â As for Phil saying 'why does the track always get the blame' I read with interest your comments about Terenzano where you put the blame for bad racing each and every year purely on the track. Cant have it both ways. Â I really hope this GP meeting is fantastic for racing but there appears to be little dirt on the inside at Poole after a few heats. The only dirt is up by the fence so even the riders said 'its one line tonight'. I had the advantage of hearing the TV interviews whereas you didn't Skid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 In all seriousness, it has to be one of Cook or King. It would be embarasing if King made the GPs as he'd be shoved out of the way all the time, at least Cook if he fluked it (as thats all anyone is going to do) copuld claim he's inexperienced. So I'd probably give Cook the place. Â After last night, Nicholls proved he's not good enough at Poole. Â In fact, maybe a 1 armed Harris may be the best option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Thanks for the kind words Skidder. I've seen 3 meetings at Poole this season live and passing has been minimal. In fact the riders have struggled on a poor track. Wasn't there last night but TV just as good to make a view. I do not support any team, am not anti Poole, but just want to see good racing when paying my entrance fee. Â I accept the track was at it's best last night, as said by Darcy Ward, but here are some questions for you Skid. Â Haven't the riders (certainly Holder & ward) complained about the Poole track being bumpy especially into the first bend & also inconsistent week to week ? Haven't Poole recently changed their curator and now use G.Richter ? If yes to both then you'll have to admit the track is far from conducive for good racing. Â In 15 heats how many genuine passing moves were there last night after the 2nd bend ? And I do accept Phil's point that passing Ward & Magic would have stretched the very best but they weren't in every heat and only take up one space on the grid bar in heat 13. Nothing stopping the other 3 riders changing places is there. Â As for Phil saying 'why does the track always get the blame' I read with interest your comments about Terenzano where you put the blame for bad racing each and every year purely on the track. Cant have it both ways. Â I really hope this GP meeting is fantastic for racing but there appears to be little dirt on the inside at Poole after a few heats. The only dirt is up by the fence so even the riders said 'its one line tonight'. I had the advantage of hearing the TV interviews whereas you didn't Skid. Sorry? What don't you understand about 'the track was the best its been all season'!? By definition that means the track has been below-par all season - something that I and most Poole fans and riders have been saying persistently since April!! The main problem has been the inconsistency from week to week. ie never the same from one meeting to the next which is partly why Poole's home record has been quite dire this season. In the Poole programme last night there is an interesting Q and A with Chris Holder who has come out and complained about the state of all EL tracks compared to what they race on abroad - particularly Poland. Most riders, using the current equipment, prefer a smooth, slick(er) surface with just a little dirt. If there is too much dirt and if its over watered, riders hit the heavy stuff and have to shut off, losing speed, power and often the race. Last night at Poole was nothing like that!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Away riders must never ride mid track at Poole ........... and if they gate go tight as on the 2nd bend or out wide in the dirt which is NEVER pulled down from the outside of the track ........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Maybe Phil , LOL. Were coming to Sweden now for the gp, so were need to discuss my return to sanity over a beer or two ;-) Â ALWAYS happy to discuss anything over a beer or two... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 that means the track has been below-par all season - Â Nice to see you agree with me. Â ALWAYS happy to discuss anything over a beer or two... what a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Give Barker a chance. Invite Craig Cook to watch the meeting. Could be a right giggle.  Why not get them to have a face race off before the meeting to see who gets it ?   Bomber the obvious / usual selection but will he be fit enough ?  Scotty is a real trier but you dont get points for trying  Daniel King has to be the obvious choice after some decent scores and average but can see them giving it to Craig Cook who will givr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmas Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Last thing you want to do is shut off mate as the bike will grip more and straighten up   Sorry? What don't you understand about 'the track was the best its been all season'!? By definition that means the track has been below-par all season - something that I and most Poole fans and riders have been saying persistently since April!! The main problem has been the inconsistency from week to week. ie never the same from one meeting to the next which is partly why Poole's home record has been quite dire this season. In the Poole programme last night there is an interesting Q and A with Chris Holder who has come out and complained about the state of all EL tracks compared to what they race on abroad - particularly Poland. Most riders, using the current equipment, prefer a smooth, slick(er) surface with just a little dirt. If there is too much dirt and if its over watered, riders hit the heavy stuff and have to shut off, losing speed, power and often the race. Last night at Poole was nothing like that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 ALWAYS happy to discuss anything over a beer or two... Â Its a date then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Is this be covered on anything ? Is a great meeting to watch ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013   Why not get them to have a face race off before the meeting to see who gets it ?   Bomber the obvious / usual selection but will he be fit enough ?  Scotty is a real trier but you dont get points for trying  Daniel King has to be the obvious choice after some decent scores and average but can see them giving it to Craig Cook who will givr There is another thread claiming Cook has declined to ride for GB v Aus in the upcoming 'test matches'. IF this is true ( I say if as there has been nothing official) then I cant see how he would get the wild card.  Perhaps he already knows he hadnt got it hence the pull out from the tests (pure speculation that could be 2+2=5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 In my view the wildcard place, if it's required to be a Brit, should be the one with the highest EL average for this season - if they decline then go to the next highest. This seems the fairest way but this is speedway we're talking about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 This should be the lineup .....   Daniel Nermark Thomas H.Jonasson  Hans Andersen Kenneth Bjerre Michael Jepsen Jensen Niels Kristian Iversen  Jurica Pavlic  Krzysztof Kasprzak Maciej Janowski Przemyslav Pawlicki Piotr Pawlicki (res) Krzysztof Buczkowski (res)  Martin Smolinski  Matej Zagar  Oleksander Loktaev  Troy Batchelor  Vaclav Milik  Wildcard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogs Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Anyone going from Bristol. Willing to share fuel costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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