PHILIPRISING Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 I though it was a speedway magazine? As a such perhaps it could question why a few riders are keep getting charity picks? WHO would you have put in instead of Harris if it had to be a British rider? If he does get through tonight at least he will have done it on the track. The big question now is which Swedish rider or riders will get a wild card. More charity for Lindgren? Then why are they allowing riders to withdraw with such a short notice preventing riders that have earned their place (as a reserve) from taking part of the GP-challenge. Have you ever asked those questions? YES ... they (FIM) have no way or stopping a rider withdrawing should he wish to do so. Perhaps there should be some provision for punishment but we all know that if necessary a medical certificate would miraculously appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 At the interval Pawlicki, Lahti and Kildemand are out of the running Iversen looks a class above them all, but still going for Batcheor and MJJ and hoping KK does enough so he slows down in the GP's and Freddie can ###### 8th place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 With respect, even if they did do that, what kind of reply would they ever get ? Farce it may be, but what the hell has it got to do with the Star ? The last time I looked, The Speedway Star was in the business of journalism. Obviously this isn't up there with the Watergate Scandal, but it would certainly be interesting to know why Harris continuously gets this nod, year after year. As Philip Rising is involved with the The Speedway Star, and Harris' inclusion in this meeting is just the latest in a long line of charity picks, that's 'why the hell' I asked. JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) He has had a great season but please not Martin Smolinski in the GP's !!! His final ride is his easiest and if he finishes on 11 he could get straigt into the final and with Iversen in already he will be in the GP's Edited August 24, 2013 by T.N.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 The last time I looked, The Speedway Star was in the business of journalism. Obviously this isn't up there with the Watergate Scandal, but it would certainly be interesting to know why Harris continuously gets this nod, year after year. As Philip Rising is involved with the The Speedway Star, and Harris' inclusion in this meeting is just the latest in a long line of charity picks, that's 'why the hell' I asked. JT. But by the letter of the fim regulations etc, this is just how it's done. Why should a magazine ask questions of an organisation when they are only going to look boneheaded when the answer comes, because it's what we knew already ? Not agreeing with the rules, frankly pathetic in my mind, but still, nothing to be gained by the star going off half baked with some pointless charade just to please a few people who cant get their head round the vagaries of fim competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) He has had a great season but please not Martin Smolinski in the GP's !!! 3, 2, 0, 3 Are his scores... that big fat 0 might get your wish! Alough his late heat and its heat 20 is proberbly the easist of the night! The rider who has turned it around the most and is proving his ability now and people shoot him down! Smolinski in the GP's would be great for me! Edited August 24, 2013 by Hunty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 WHO would you have put in instead of Harris if it had to be a British rider? If he does get through tonight at least he will have done it on the track. Maybe someone who hasn't had about 8 chances? How many more opportunities do you think he'll get if he fails tonight? The big question now is which Swedish rider or riders will get a wild card. More charity for Lindgren? Lindgren is the Swedish Chris Harris (albeit a much better league rider). Iversen is essentially the ideal role model for those looking to break into the GP's. A few years ago his career wasn't really going much further, a decent league rider and OK in the World Cups, but inconsistent. Realising he'd never get a Wild Card ever again, he reassessed his approach to the sport. Now he's one the best league riders in the World, top 5 in the GP's and the captain (and national champion) of arguably the most talented speedway nation in the world. That's the way to sort your career out, not sit around waiting for a piece of charity every season. JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 The last time I looked, The Speedway Star was in the business of journalism. Obviously this isn't up there with the Watergate Scandal, but it would certainly be interesting to know why Harris continuously gets this nod, year after year. As Philip Rising is involved with the The Speedway Star, and Harris' inclusion in this meeting is just the latest in a long line of charity picks, that's 'why the hell' I asked. JT. ASK you the same question ... if not Harris then who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 So does the person who comes 4th in the Challenge get a GP spot if Niels finishes in the Top 8? ASK you the same question ... if not Harris then who? Robert Lambert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 ASK you the same question ... if not Harris then who? See my reply, one above your last post. JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 So does the person who comes 4th in the Challenge get a GP spot if Niels finishes in the Top 8? Robert Lambert Dunno the answer but the would proberbly mean the FIM get another wildcard to get who they want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 WHO would you have put in instead of Harris if it had to be a British rider? If he does get through tonight at least he will have done it on the track. The big question now is which Swedish rider or riders will get a wild card. More charity for Lindgren? YES ... they (FIM) have no way or stopping a rider withdrawing should he wish to do so. Perhaps there should be some provision for punishment but we all know that if necessary a medical certificate would miraculously appear. Ton answer your first question is quite easy. Eddie Kennett and Scott Nicholls both finished ahead of Harris in the qualifiers for this meeting. Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Dunno the answer but the would proberbly mean the FIM get another wildcard to get who they want! Now found the answer! 4th place gets the GP spot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 4th in Challenge would replace Iversen if he finishes in top eight... wouldn't argue about Iversen getting his act together, something Vaculik says he is determined to so, but like it or not Harris has consistently been the best (of an admittedly bad bunch) of British riders for some time now and obviously the BSPA felt it right to put him ahead of any others tonight. Ton answer your first question is quite easy. Eddie Kennett and Scott Nicholls both finished ahead of Harris in the qualifiers for this meeting. Simples. NOTHING'S that simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Robert Lambert Yeh of course...a 15 year old. For the love of god you need to have words with yourself mate.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 4th in Challenge would replace Iversen if he finishes in top eight... wouldn't argue about Iversen getting his act together, something Vaculik says he is determined to so, but like it or not Harris has consistently been the best (of an admittedly bad bunch) of British riders for some time now and obviously the BSPA felt it right to put him ahead of any others tonight. NOTHING'S that simple. But surely you can see that that would at least be fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 4th in Challenge would replace Iversen if he finishes in top eight... wouldn't argue about Iversen getting his act together, something Vaculik says he is determined to so, but like it or not Harris has consistently been the best (of an admittedly bad bunch) of British riders for some time now and obviously the BSPA felt it right to put him ahead of any others tonight. NOTHING'S that simple. Why isn't it then? Have all riders t hat finished ahead of Harris been asked or did they just give it to Harris without asking anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 ASK you the same question ... if not Harris then who? Krzysztof Buczkowski who was next in line from the qualifiers and was riding in England last night So does the person who comes 4th in the Challenge get a GP spot if Niels finishes in the Top 8? Yes ..... but until NKI is confirmed in the top 8 he will have to wait .......... but not for long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 INCIDENTALLY, if riders are tied for fourth there will not be a run-off ... final placings determined on count back (wins, seconds, etc). Did King finish ahead of Kennett and Nicholls in the qualifiers? Cannot remember... WILL get Tony Steele to clarify on Monday exactly how Harris got in ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Did King finish ahead of Kennett and Nicholls in the qualifiers? Cannot remember... I don't agree with King's inclusion either, but at least he hasn't sponged off the authorities before. Like I said, Harris has failed on almost every occasion, give someone else a go! TNT's point is very valid by the way, why not give Buczkowski a go? Or one of the other 37 riders who finished ahead of Harris in the qualifiers? JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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