SPEEDY69 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 INCIDENTALLY, if riders are tied for fourth there will not be a run-off ... final placings determined on count back (wins, seconds, etc). Did King finish ahead of Kennett and Nicholls in the qualifiers? Cannot remember... WILL get Tony Steele to clarify on Monday exactly how Harris got in ... That's a silly argument as you knw full well the host nation has one wildcard entrant. Let's not deflect from the fact that Harris' inclusion appears to have been blatant discrimination by the BSPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastword Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 INCIDENTALLY, if riders are tied for fourth there will not be a run-off ... final placings determined on count back (wins, seconds, etc). Did King finish ahead of Kennett and Nicholls in the qualifiers? Cannot remember... WILL get Tony Steele to clarify on Monday exactly how Harris got in ... Re last point.............real journalism at last! May even keep up my subscription! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 That's a silly argument as you knw full well the host nation has one wildcard entrant. Let's not deflect from the fact that Harris' inclusion appears to have been blatant discrimination by the BSPA. Strong words...hope you've got your blood pressure medication ready then as he could well be qualified after the next heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Strong words...hope you've got your blood pressure medication ready then as he could well be qualified after the next heat How else would you explain Harris inclusion? A rider that was knocked out already in the quarterfinal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Strong words...hope you've got your blood pressure medication ready then as he could well be qualified after the next heat Nothing against Harris, it isn't his fault. Just wish the BSPA could make a fair decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) Posted Deleted! Edited August 24, 2013 by Hunty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 A simple solution; the Wild Card and any home reserves shouldn't be able to qualify for the Grand Prix series, even if they win the meeting. By all means include them to promote local interest, but it's a slap in the face to the riders who finished ahead of them in the earlier rounds, that riders like King and Harris get the chance because of their nationality. JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Kazpazak is through with Iversen! Last heat and if Smolinski wins hes 3rd and gets a place and Harris finsihes 5TH Behind Bjerre! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyb Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Well done Niels Kristian Iversen, thoroughly deserved. The best man wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 How else would you explain Harris inclusion? A rider that was knocked out already in the quarterfinal. You're aiming the question at the wrong bloke...I'm sure if i trawl back through this thread there is info that would lead me to a full explanation. I'm not getting bent out of shape over this, you lot are.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Niels Kristian Iversen Krzysztof Kasprzak Kenneth Bjerre All GP riders next year! Smoliski and Harris both scored 10! Dunno who gets 4th and 5th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) Kazpazak is through with Iversen! Last heat and if Smolinski wins hes 3rd and gets a place and Harris finsihes 5TH Behind Bjerre! 2p is should be enough since Smolinski got two 1st places while Harris only have one 1st place. Edited August 24, 2013 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 PRETTY sure the answer will be that when a late withdrawal means none of the riders next in qualification order can compete it is up to the host nation to provide an additional rider or riders. Although the actually decision would have come via the SCB or the ACU (as the body affiliated to the FIM) no doubt the BSPA were asked to make the nomination. But, as said earlier, will enquire from Tony Steele. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Surely Smolinski 4th, he beat Harris in their first heat and had two wins versus Harris' one. Thank God for that! Harris first reserve next season if PUK finishes in the GP top 8? JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Best result for the GP's there, best 3 riders on paper, so not all bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 BSI will probably be reasonably happy with result. Means three Danes next year but that won't bother them considering extensive TV coverage there. At least two Poles even if Gollob doesn't make it. A German will go down well, especially with Berlin a possibility. As stated earlier, Sweden the problem now. Three wild cards to choose with Holder a shoe in and Ward likely to make top eight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastword Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Best result for the GP's there, best 3 riders on paper, so not all bad. Surely Smolinski 4th, he beat Harris in their first heat and had two wins versus Harris' one. Thank God for that! Harris first reserve next season if PUK finishes in the GP top 8? JT. Yep, assuming that KK doesn't make up 20 points and get into the top 8 this year............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) So Harris fails AGAIN. Quel surprise. And in his home country. Let's hope he takes a leaf out of Iversen's book and never relies on a Wild Card ever again. I won't hold my breath. BSI will probably be reasonably happy with result. Means three Danes next year but that won't bother them considering extensive TV coverage there. At least two Poles even if Gollob doesn't make it. A German will go down well, especially with Berlin a possibility. As stated earlier, Sweden the problem now. Three wild cards to choose with Holder a shoe in and Ward likely to make top eight. You remarked earlier that BSI are happy with their current British quota. Surely they won't waste one of the places on Harris AGAIN will they? I can see them using his fifth place here as an excuse to get him back in, but I hope they see sense. If next years line up is as follows, I'll be very happy; 1. Tai Woffinden 2. Emil Sayfutdinov 3. Jarek Hampel 4. Nicki Pedersen 5. Niels Kristian Iversen 6. Greg Hancock 7. Matej Zagar 8. Tomasz Gollob 9. Krzystof Kasprzak 10. Kenneth Bjerre 11. Martin Smolinski 12. Chris Holder 13. Darcy Ward 14. Andreas Jonsson 15. Grigory Laguta JT. Edited August 24, 2013 by JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 BSI will probably be reasonably happy with result. Means three Danes next year but that won't bother them considering extensive TV coverage there. At least two Poles even if Gollob doesn't make it. A German will go down well, especially with Berlin a possibility. As stated earlier, Sweden the problem now. Three wild cards to choose with Holder a shoe in and Ward likely to make top eight. I would go with AJ, along with Dudek and MJJ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Ace Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) Oh dear, same old garbage again sadly. I know they qualified but think its time it was freshened up a bit now as sick of seeing all the same tired old faces that do nothing year after year. The likes of Bjerre, KK, Lindgren, Lindback, AJ etc have all been in it many times & r well passed their sell by date. Look at how the young guns like Emil, Tai & Darcy have illuminated the sport this year?? If it wasn't for them 3 the series would have been pretty poor to say the least. Do away with qualifying & get some fresh faces in as picks like the Laguta's, MJJ, Dudek, Pawlicki's, Janowski etc. Would much rather watch these young guys battling with a few older heads like Nicki P & Greg than the usual dross. And Smolinski?? Gotta be favourite to be lowest points scorer ever surely?? Worst GP rider since Zorro. Edited August 24, 2013 by Bradford Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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