kitten2502 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Having spoken with Martin Smolinski who is working on this project with Egon Muller the main idea is to get kids involved with the sport - there is no maintenance work involved, no grease or grime. As a starting point it is just pure fun for them - that is what will get them hooked (hopefully - well that is their plan) by Martin's own admission the speed element still needs to be worked on, but it's coming along. Surely it's got to be worth a try! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) I have a 1/3 acre of garden but it's smack bang in the middle of a village so no way would anyone ever be able to use a motorbike on it. I've just bought my 4 and 8 year old Oset electric trial bikes for xmas (bought myself one as well!). They can spend any amount of time time riding them and my 4 year old is , in two weeks, probably at a standard it would have took him 2 years to attain had we been trying to find him somewhere to ride a motorbike. My garden is a thing of the past i think! If they can get junior electric speedway bikes to that standard then it opens up so many more opportunities it cannot help but be a benefit to development. I will try and bring them up to the next Leicester practice if anyone is interested in seeing them. IMO, If the speedway versions work as well as the oset's then having a little track and 4 of those would be an abolute must at Leicester. the one i have, a 48v, 20 inch wheeled trial bike, i have to say is an absolute monster on full power! Mick. Edited January 21, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I have a 1/3 acre of garden but it's smack bang in the middle of a village so no way would anyone ever be able to use a motorbike on it. I've just bought my 4 and 8 year old Oset electric trial bikes for xmas (bought myself one as well!). They can spend any amount of time time riding them and my 4 year old is , in two weeks, probably at a standard it would have took him 2 years to attain had we been trying to find him somewhere to ride a motorbike. My garden is a thing of the past i think! If they can get junior electric speedway bikes to that standard then it opens up so many more opportunities it cannot help but be a benefit to development. I will try and bring them up to the next Leicester practice if anyone is interested in seeing them. IMO, If the speedway versions work as well as the oset's then having a little track and 4 of those would be an abolute must at Leicester. the one i have, a 48v, 20 inch wheeled trial bike, i have to say is an absolute monster on full power! Mick. Have to laugh Mick, Volty commenting on Electric bikes. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 That's not what I mean't. The sport needs to get back into the neighbourhoods, back into peoples back yards. While travelling by car is getting more expensive, the sport needs to be accessible on foot. I'd have thought that the cost of land close to urban areas would be a far bigger hurdle to speedway than the noise issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) I'd have thought that the cost of land close to urban areas would be a far bigger hurdle to speedway than the noise issue? Assuming you start from scratch. Hall Green dog track Birmingham has always been muted as a good venue.... but neighbours raise the noise. Wasn't Ellesmere Port another one? I agree though land prices when starting from scratch will be a big/almost impossible hurdle. Edited January 21, 2013 by Deano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'd have thought that the cost of land close to urban areas would be a far bigger hurdle to speedway than the noise issue? I believe you are right Matt. However, perhaps this is where Sports Grounds could come in to their own. Where big enough, perhaps it would be possible to install a Track. Not 100% sure of Electric Bikes though - I too like the NOISE and the SMELL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 IMO when I have been late for meeetings and they have started the most obvious noise is the PA system not the bikes ,when they are racing the noise is there but is not as annoying as music and the announcer .The race lasts 60+ seconds where as the PA can be heard for an hour and a half or more, so from a noise point of view that IMO is a greater problem to those outside the staduim than the actual bikes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I think this is worth considering with speedway in its current state. In terms of the doubters I hope this idea will socket to them and provide amp-le opportunities to those c-able to have a go. Watt do people think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I think this is worth considering with speedway in its current state. In terms of the doubters I hope this idea will socket to them and provide amp-le opportunities to those c-able to have a go. Watt do people think? could transformer the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I think this is worth considering with speedway in its current state. In terms of the doubters I hope this idea will socket to them and provide amp-le opportunities to those c-able to have a go. Watt do people think? I think the electric could be better used plugged into a chair for all the people who think this is a good idea This is blasphemy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradtony Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I have to agree with dean machine there is no point pottering anound on a bike powered by electric . what a B--------- farce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 You could always get those things you fasten to the forks that go in between the spokes - that sounds great! I had one of those on my push-bike when I was a kid! Not sure how you deal with the smell though!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 i believe electric speedway could be the future, the sport is ideal for this as short races and easy to charge in pits which have 240v power. the motor and battery has developed so much over the last few years. these are very powerful and would be as quick i would of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I have to agree with dean machine there is no point pottering anound on a bike powered by electric . what a B--------- farce But it wouldn't be "pottering around" it would be the same speed. It would just not make noise or smell. Everyone has a iPod these days, just play a sound of bikes during races! Everyone is happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 But it wouldn't be "pottering around" it would be the same speed. It would just not make noise or smell. Everyone has a iPod these days, just play a sound of bikes during races! Everyone is happy. as the bike is electric quite easily reproduce the sound on the bike if you wanted linked to a pot on the throttle. would sound the same pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Why don't we just put goals at the end of the track and replaced bikes with balls. It wouldn't be speedway but niether would electric bikes. I actually feel insulted that people could ever consider this. Cum on feel the noize I just had an idea, why dont we put an elastic band round the back wheel hub then the mechanics can push the riders backwards for 4laps till the elastic goes tight then get them to start and then let them go . Its just as much as an insult as the elecric idea is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Why don't we just put goals at the end of the track and replaced bikes with balls. It wouldn't be speedway but niether would electric bikes. I actually feel insulted that people could ever consider this. Cum on feel the noize I just had an idea, why dont we put an elastic band round the back wheel hub then the mechanics can push the riders backwards for 4laps till the elastic goes tight then get them to start and then let them go . Its just as much as an insult as the elecric idea is I think some people in speedway are trying to think 'outside of the box' and noise is a big consideration for new tracks. However, I agree, the noise and the smell of R is a big part of speedway. I wouldn't go and watch it. I would go and watch engined bikes and would be interested to see electric bikes, say in the interval or in a second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Electric speedway would be like being at a funeral , probly my funeral cause it will happen over my dead body. Its funny how noise isnt an issue in f1. Twice ad loud ad speedway and a track can apear in your town. Instead of bending over and getting shafted ,stand up for speedway and noisey sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comebackkings Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Electric speedway would be like being at a funeral , probly my funeral cause it will happen over my dead body. Its funny how noise isnt an issue in f1. Twice ad loud ad speedway and a track can apear in your town. Instead of bending over and getting shafted ,stand up for speedway and noisey sports None of the Tarmaced Circuits are in towns though are they, and I beliave Cadwell park has noise issues because of 1 house that was there after the track was set up. I understand where you're coming from Dean the noise and smell are powerful attractions to the sport, but if speedway does not adapt then the only funeral will be British speedways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I agree, I don't see it having a future as a spectator sport or as a replacement for the real thing but as a learning aid for young kids, 4-13, i think it's opens up the opportunity for mass participation. You could put a little track anywhere and with maybe 8 grand you'd have 8 bikes where the only real future cost would be for tyres. If these were runnning up and down the country and you were enticing all those trials and x-cross kids to have a go then you'd no longer be moaning about where the next generation of english speedway riders were coming from. They'd be hopefully loads of kids knowing the basics and raring to give the big stuff a go at 14 plus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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