New Zealand Gp.

[Undercover Elephant]

why poke fun at a Brit? Ward is anything but ordinary he is an immense talent it's just the usual Poole mob who big him up to better than he is. He doesn't yet quite cut it at these big meetings and boy does he need to learn to stay on the bike! The accidents weren't his fault but he tends to be in the wrong place a lot if the time

After this past weekend I would mildly increase my agreement on Darcy but only marginally. Have we stopped to wonder if an effect of the Troy Bayliss event in Aus is still lingering, I'd think so. It's a lot to digest two days on, and a lot of thinking going on the long journey back to their bases before League racing and Poland.

 

For the viewer, and one in which for speedway on tv, Yes I'd have preferred Nigel Pearson and Kelvin Tatum on commentary. I spoke with British fans in attendance in the city and the track how polarising their delivery of Speedway is a major selling tool for BSI amongst many involved. People have differing preference. Some would have enjoyed Crump and David Tapp on Speed, but I felt that the broadcast would have enhanced the product beamed around the world if N&K had been describing action. I just love their delivery and camaraderie as a duo.

 

No disrespect to the C&T they did a very good job in the end and I respect that.

Nice to see you have admitted you posted this before knowing he had been injured less than 24 hours before flying out to NZ

 

 

However ....... if you are getting paid for making comments progessionally about the sport for such a period of time, I would have thought you would have revised about the subject before passing comment on the www or at least listened to the numerous comments about his crash to know what the situation was.

 

 

 

 

 

Sadly this year has seen a number of non qualifiers make it into the series but as one of those was Smolinski its shows that even non qualifiers can put up a good showing.

 

I like Bomber but he is not a big meeting / GP standard rider and his lack of gating skills can not be covered up in such a line up and personally feel that if there are still spaces to fill after the GP Challenge then the best riders or most entertaining should have been considered as wild cards.

 

 

Bartosz Zmarzlik, Patryk Dudek, Michael Jepsen Jensen, Alex Lokatev, Artem Laguta etc etc are young riders who would be much better entertainment or standard rider to fill the spaces.

 

If it is a question of having two Brits (which it isn't) then I would say Craig Cook or Scott Nicholls would be better suited to ride in this meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michael Jepsen Jensen, Adrian Miedzenski ......

Cook would be swallowed up unfortunately like the equivalent to a conference rider in GP terms. The top riders are no mugs. Money equals machinery to go fast. If Cook was a tittering rider to GP, wouldn't he have made a bigger name for himself already. I mean I've seen a lot of Michal Jepsen Jensen and Mikkel B Jensen to know they are more prolific riders to be considered ahead of Cook.

Edited April 7, 2014 by Undercover Elephant

[Guest]

In reply to Gustix I've been to the Motorplex in Perth but I cannot see a GP there in a million years to be honest.....I'd love one in Perth though but I don't think it will ever happen...Claremont would have been great prepared for an out and out bike night with the best riders in the world, but not the Motorplex

 

I now tend to think it will be a long time before we see another GP in New Zealand, while I also note so far as Australia is concerned that the Motorplex in Perth is most likely a non-runner.

Going back in time, what went wrong when they staged a GP at Stadium Australia Parramatta in 2002? The only links on the event that I can find are these and they don't go into any detail about the meeting's aftermath and the consequences in regard to more GPs in Australia.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_Grand_Prix_of_Australia

http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/7a4c3b4956d795ddca256ad8001f8faf/b68c06df997249fdca256c590076056b?OpenDocument

http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/7a4c3b4956d795ddca256ad8001f8faf/1842f0ba5de142adca256c5f0072ab3a?OpenDocument

Edited April 7, 2014 by Guest

[waiheke1]

I believe the promoter lost shed loads of money, hence it was one time only.

[PHILIPRISING]

THE Olympic Stadium in Sydney, as it was known in 2002, was too big, too costly and too far out of town. It was also a bitterly cold night, unusual for that time of the year, and the GP was also shown live on TV. John Postlethwaite, then boss of BSI, had a spectacular fall out with the local organisers as well so it was no surprise that it turned out to be a one-off and never had a chance to build up the event.

 

The Sydney press were also more apathetic than even those in Auckland.

 

However, don't rule out a return to Oz next year...

[Guest]

 

I now tend to think it will be a long time before we see another GP in New Zealand, while I also note so far as Australia is concerned that the Motorplex in Perth is most likely a non-runner.

Going back in time, what went wrong when they staged a GP at Stadium Australia Parramatta in 2002? The only links on the event that I can find are these and they don't go into any detail about the meeting's aftermath and the consequences in regard to more GPs in Australia.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_Grand_Prix_of_Australia

http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/7a4c3b4956d795ddca256ad8001f8faf/b68c06df997249fdca256c590076056b?OpenDocument

http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/7a4c3b4956d795ddca256ad8001f8faf/1842f0ba5de142adca256c5f0072ab3a?OpenDocument

 

 

I believe the promoter lost shed loads of money, hence it was one time only.

 

I thought Parramatta was a loss maker, but I need to be careful on my comments - they seem to attract much attention. So Parramatta was as has happened to poor old Bill Buckley. How does Bill manage to afford the top American sprint car and midget car drivers each season - they don't travel or race for peanuts.

[waiheke1]

bill buckley is a very rich man - google him to find out more

[Guest]

THE Olympic Stadium in Sydney, as it was known in 2002, was too big, too costly and too far out of town. It was also a bitterly cold night, unusual for that time of the year, and the GP was also shown live on TV. John Postlethwaite, then boss of BSI, had a spectacular fall out with the local organisers as well so it was no surprise that it turned out to be a one-off and never had a chance to build up the event.

 

The Sydney press were also more apathetic than even those in Auckland.

 

However, don't rule out a return to Oz next year...

So there is some optimism in regard to Australia. That is encouraging.

bill buckley is a very rich man - google him to find out more

I have read about Bill Buckley's wealth but even rich men don't throw "dollars bills in the air for fun" do they?

[PHILIPRISING]

I'M not unsympathetic to Bill Buckley over his losses but he is certainly no fool and went into this with his eyes open. He knew it was a high risk gamble, and no one forced him into it, but it was something he wanted to do and no doubt the accountants at Bill Buckley Systems are working hard to mitigate his losses.

 

No one can fault the effort everyone put into it, whether from BSI or BBS, but a lack of real support from the City of Auckland didn't help.

 

Humphrey is right about air fares (think it was around £1,200 per ticket this time) and don't forget that EVERY rider bar Bunyan is provided with FIVE and three top class hotel rooms for the duration of their stay.

 

Each rider also had a specially designed and manufactured metal container in which they each sent two bikes, spare engines and the rest of their equipment (tools, etc)... so the cost of freight was pretty substantial as well. It will all be back at the freight depot in Amsterdam by the time by the riders land at Heathrow tomorrow morning.

Edited April 7, 2014 by PHILIPRISING

[blueherb777]

Did not see the Grand Prix live,just watched a recording.

That Final - wow - Well done Smolinski - WHAT A RIDE.

[waiheke1]

Phil - do the FIM offcials pay their own way, or are they paid for too by BSI or Bill B?

[theknow 2]

Well done to Martin, used his head and got a very good win. Pretty poor gp and racing with bad camera action but i expect down to distance.

 

Meeting came alive in last few heats and semi and final. Cracking end to meeting and worth getting up early for

 

Nice to see Harris bring a bit of concisantancy to the gp 00000 Looks like he has never been away

 

On to bignosh and the return of a great sponsor

[DutchGrasstrack]

Watched the NZ GP for the first time on the stream rather then being there live (sadly). The racing came through realy well, and Smoli was awesome, although I'm not a big fan of the German haha. This is huge for German speedway, and hope for him that his form continues. With two big One Sport meetings in Germany as well this can only be good fur unsere Deutsche speedway freunden

 

Did miss Emil in the GP's though, but was good to see him in Gorzow yesterday racking up 3 heat wins for Torun haha

[racers and royals]

Well done to Martin, used his head and got a very good win. Pretty poor gp and racing with bad camera action but i expect down to distance.

 

Meeting came alive in last few heats and semi and final. Cracking end to meeting and worth getting up early for

 

Nice to see Harris bring a bit of concisantancy to the gp 00000 Looks like he has never been away

 

On to bignosh and the return of a great sponsor

Didn`t realise Doodson were sponsoring it

[PHILIPRISING]

Phil - do the FIM offcials pay their own way, or are they paid for too by BSI or Bill B?

THE FIM pay ... but they are on a tight budget. When Tony Steele was the ref in Sydney he only had a hotel allowance for TWO days!

 

Bit better now but they would have paid (Fares, accommodation, meals, local transport, etc) for Armando Castagna, Tony Olsson, Jim Lawrence and Mike Posslethwaite (SGP secretary who went instead of Graham Brodie).

[racers and royals]

Have you forgotten is injuries from Leicester just over a week before?

 

The medical advice was not to go to New Zealand!

 

Niamh

Poor old Gustix is going to get annoyed-fair play to him he has apologised about 6 times now for that post .

[waiheke1]

Gustix has already apologised repeatedly for being the only speedway fan onbthe planet unaware of that fact. If he were Canadian he could also apokogise for bryan adams but im not sure what else he csn do.

[mudflaps]

Sayfutdinov and Gollob sorely missed...

Great effort by Smolinski - thought he could have shown a little more compassion and apologised for putting Ward in hospital....

[Guest]

Poor old Gustix is going to get annoyed-fair play to him he has apologised about 6 times now for that post .

 

 

Gustix has already apologised repeatedly for being the only speedway fan onbthe planet unaware of that fact. If he were Canadian he could also apokogise for bryan adams but im not sure what else he csn do.

Is it correct that England speedway captain Jack Parker broke an arm when he crashed Frank 'Satan' Brewer's midget car at Sydney Royale? It's farly recent - I think in the last 60 years - but the fact has only just been brought to my attention.

Edited April 7, 2014 by Guest

[Edward Barrett]

Harris ought to do the decent thing and quit the GPS', he is not doing himself any favours, and he is making British Speedway a laughing stock.

 

He is a good league rider, and can give s lot of decent advice to up and coming riders, but please, stop embarrassing yourself on the world's stage.

You haven't got it anymore.

[severnsider]

2.2m Zloties = roughly £440,000. Now it's a 15,500 capacity stadium isn't it? So dividing one into the other, you get £28.39 per person in the stadium. Ok so there will be factors like advertising to add into the equation, and all the running costs to take out, but I suspect the bottom line is that Google/Bing mis-translated gate revenue for profit again.

That wasn't how i read it as the article says that this is the income going towards the 14m zloty annual budget for the team.

 

http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/428947/unibax-torun-aspekt-finansowy-powodem-odejscia-romana-karkosika