New Zealand Gp.

[Guest]

 

If it's right that the crowd was only 10,000, then it's never going to be profitable, bearing in mind the cost of moving the circus to the other side of the planet.

 

You are right though that BSI do know how to squeeze the blood out of their hosts though. I foresee GP venues that pay big bucks to BSI turning over to OneSport as their contracts run out. In a few years the scene will be very different.

The ideal would be a mini-tour of Australasia with promoters involved in a combined undertaking as a joint promotional venture. Possibly two meetings in Australia (one on east coast, the other on the west coast) then moving on to New Zealand. Possibly staged late February early March with meetings on three consecutive weekends. Or is this a ludicrous idea on my part?

[Bruiser McHuge]

The ideal would be a mini-tour of Australasia with promoters involved in a combined undertaking as a joint promotional venture. Possibly two meetings in Australia (one on east coast, the other on the west coast) then moving on to New Zealand. Possibly staged late February early March with meetings on three consecutive weekends. Or is this a ludicrous idea on my part?

Ideally that would be good, but I cannot see the West coast of Australia staging a GP since the closure of Claremont which I think would have been a great GP.....I cannot see a suitable speedway venue there for a GP these days or a promoter willing to stump up the funds......maybe the East coast could but I am not as familiar with that side these days

[david2905]

JesuS bloody wept there is no justice. A guy that wrecks Darcys night then flukes a win.

 

 

Terrible

 

How the feck do you "fluke" a win against that calibre of field ? if you win a GP it's because you deserve it.

 

According to some, even looking at Darchole is worthy of a 28 day ban now it seems.

[Jacques]

Did anyone have a bet on Smoli?

[iris123]

 

How the feck do you "fluke" a win against that calibre of field ? if you win a GP it's because you deserve it.

 

 

Think Shovlar has taken a dislike to Smoli right from the day when he signed for Coventry he called them the Man Utd of speedway........sadly it looks like he might be right

[screm]

Delighted to be proved wrong about Smolinski, he was excellent all night.

 

Delighted to be proved right on Harris, he was awful and no matter much coaching he gets from Morris nothing is going to improve his gating to the degree it needs to for Harris to be anything like competitive.

[OGT]

Delighted to be proved wrong about Smolinski, he was excellent all night.

 

Delighted to be proved right on Harris, he was awful and no matter much coaching he gets from Morris nothing is going to improve his gating to the degree it needs to for Harris to be anything like competitive.

Morris needs to watch Taladega Nights for some new training ideas.

[severnsider]

 

If it's right that the crowd was only 10,000, then it's never going to be profitable, bearing in mind the cost of moving the circus to the other side of the planet.

 

You are right though that BSI do know how to squeeze the blood out of their hosts though. I foresee GP venues that pay big bucks to BSI turning over to OneSport as their contracts run out. In a few years the scene will be very different.

 

 

You may be correct but obviously not always true as the Torun club are reported as making around 2.2million zloty per year from the Grand Prix at their venue according to a report on Sportowe Fakty a couple of days ago

[stevebrum]

I'd sooner have Crump and Tapp for the rest of the series, at least they are not biased like Pearson. Lets also have a bit more of Scott as well

 

Be nice if they got little details like right Country of birth right tho, couldn't put up with that all year. Thank god for knowledgeable speedway people presenting our sport.

Crump was good and unbiased tho.

[nw42]

I can only echo that. No one expected it, but then nor did anyone expect of Tai last year.

 

 

Except making the top 8 the year before last and winning one you mean..................... oh and making another final tonight.

 

 

 

The worst comment i have read this year. It is as if you have never watched Speedway before such is the lack of knowledge.

 

 

Sour grapes because a Poole rider didn't win the final. I will just go and get you a tissue in case you are still sniveling.

 

You know full well the point I was making Steve, yet you chose to edit it down to the part that gave you the chance to use your multi-quoting skills, then take my comment completely out of context and make snide remarks.

 

I don't have much in common with Gustix but he's bang on the money when he said you'd do well to read on through the thread before diving in.

[stevebrum]

 

You know full well the point I was making Steve, yet you chose to edit it down to the part that gave you the chance to use your multi-quoting skills, then take my comment completely out of context and make snide remarks.

 

I don't have much in common with Gustix but he's bang on the money when he said you'd do well to read on through the thread before diving in.

 

 

Reading it as i saw it and quoted as the part that was relevant,

Did i say i disagreed with your whole post??

Jeez, some people need to lighten up a little.

 

As for Gustix comments and replies. Why did you not mention that he has made the `read through before diving in` (your words) comments because several have quoted that one post?

Just saying if you want to give full flavour to quoting other peoples posts.

[Bruiser McHuge]

Be nice if they got little details like right Country of birth right tho, couldn't put up with that all year. Thank god for knowledgeable speedway people presenting our sport.

Crump was good and unbiased tho.

 

I thought Crump was pretty good...not a fan of David Tapp at all but Crump would be ok if he did some of the European events later on

[nw42]

Well Steve, I don't agree with a lot of what's posted on here but I don't feel the need to react all the time, I'd never get out of the house if I did.

 

There was plenty of chat/banter going on during and just after the meeting, then you come along later in the day and stick your oar in, quoting out of context but making absolutely no contribution to the discussion on the meeting, I think they have a name for that sort of behaviour.

 

I haven't read the whole thread pre-meeting but from what I see since you haven't actually made a single comment about the actual GP, which is the subject of the thread after all, so what's your point?

 

As for your last paragraph, is that actually meant to mean something? Gustix replied to you because you were bringing up a previous comment of his that he had already retracted numerous times and stated he wasn't aware of Tai's injury when he made it. You were too busy with the multi-quote button and must have overlooked his retraction.

 

Do keep up.

[hawkeyenz]

I took my three sons up from Christchurch. Fantastic spectacle and the racing was superb. My first trip to the Springs and it was a real racers track.

 

The crowd was decent but most people around us were 45+ from a generation that can remember Mauger, Briggs and Moore. There were quite a few Aussies and a small group of young Danes down in front of us.

 

As everyone says NZ is no longer a motorcycle speedway power and the stuff at Ronnie Moore Park is light years short of what was served up on Saturday night.

 

To get 25,000 in attendance you have to get younger people there and the ticket prices were similar to an All Black Test match so pretty steep for someone that has no idea what to expect.

 

 

 

 

[MunichMassive]

Well done bomber i must say... NOT.. I hope he will improve, if not so, i hope he will be wise enuff to recognize that he is just not good enuff for the GP Series. If thats gonna be the case as a consequence i hope he will pull himself out of the GPs and let someone else get a chance who is capable of improving himself.

The gating was the bollox! Looked like he didnt do anything over the winter to improve himself.

The Rest was a big surprise, i want more of it.

I also really liked Crumpy as a commentator even if I didnt like him as a Speedway Rider! Good on ya Crumpy!

[The Pedaler]

You may be correct but obviously not always true as the Torun club are reported as making around 2.2million zloty per year from the Grand Prix at their venue according to a report on Sportowe Fakty a couple of days ago

 

2.2m Zloties = roughly £440,000. Now it's a 15,500 capacity stadium isn't it? So dividing one into the other, you get £28.39 per person in the stadium. Ok so there will be factors like advertising to add into the equation, and all the running costs to take out, but I suspect the bottom line is that Google/Bing mis-translated gate revenue for profit again.

[T.N.T.]

No excuse at all. Woffinden went to the meeting as the defending champion and should have been at the peak of preparation, both in regard to himself and his racing equipment.

 

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I concede all that you say in regard to the rider's injury of which I was unaware. Thanks for the comment about 'ludicrous' I have been making them professionally about speedway since late 1952 - and earned quite a 'few bob' and praise over the years.

Have a nice day!

 

 

Nice to see you have admitted you posted this before knowing he had been injured less than 24 hours before flying out to NZ

 

 

However ....... if you are getting paid for making comments progessionally about the sport for such a period of time, I would have thought you would have revised about the subject before passing comment on the www or at least listened to the numerous comments about his crash to know what the situation was.

 

 

 

Bloody hell give the lad a break, it's one meeting, I'd much rather have 2 Brits in the series, he'll have his moments throughout the season and after Tai he's the best we've got. Is he going to be crowned World Champion - no, is he capable making the odd semi and maybe a final - most definitely.

 

Freddie Lindgren has been getting free tickets for years and done very little, let's throw him out as well, in fact lets cut the field to 12 riders and have done with it.

 

Sadly this year has seen a number of non qualifiers make it into the series but as one of those was Smolinski its shows that even non qualifiers can put up a good showing.

 

I like Bomber but he is not a big meeting / GP standard rider and his lack of gating skills can not be covered up in such a line up and personally feel that if there are still spaces to fill after the GP Challenge then the best riders or most entertaining should have been considered as wild cards.

 

 

Bartosz Zmarzlik, Patryk Dudek, Michael Jepsen Jensen, Alex Lokatev, Artem Laguta etc etc are young riders who would be much better entertainment or standard rider to fill the spaces.

 

If it is a question of having two Brits (which it isn't) then I would say Craig Cook or Scott Nicholls would be better suited to ride in this meeting.

 

 

 

Just brilliant isn't it, the man completely wrote off, a lot like Tai lasts season, comes out and wins the opening GP!

 

By the way I'd go as far as saying that's booked his place for next season too, when was the last time a rider who won a GP wasn't back in them the season after, by not qualifying for the top 8?

 

 

Michael Jepsen Jensen, Adrian Miedzenski ......

[Guest]

Ideally that would be good, but I cannot see the West coast of Australia staging a GP since the closure of Claremont which I think would have been a great GP.....I cannot see a suitable speedway venue there for a GP these days or a promoter willing to stump up the funds......maybe the East coast could but I am not as familiar with that side these days

There is still car action in the Perth, WA, area - at the Motorplex where my old mate Con Migro is the promoter.

 

 

Nice to see you have admitted you posted this before knowing he had been injured less than 24 hours before flying out to NZ

 

 

However ....... if you are getting paid for making comments progessionally about the sport for such a period of time, I would have thought you would have revised about the subject before passing comment on the www or at least listened to the numerous comments about his crash to know what the situation was.

 

 

 

 

In the sections that I mainly visit on the BSF - and elsewhere on other forums - I did not see any reference to a recent injury sustained by Tai Woffinden. I take very little notice of his doings speedwaywise. But, had I been aware of his injury obviously I would not have made the comment I did.

But "welcome to the gang" that for some reason likes to ridicule most of what I comment on.

And, by the way, I am NOT now getting paid for making Press comments about speedway - that was many, many years ago. Probably before you were born - the year was 1962.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Guest

[nw42]

 

 

 

Sadly this year has seen a number of non qualifiers make it into the series but as one of those was Smolinski its shows that even non qualifiers can put up a good showing.

 

I like Bomber but he is not a big meeting / GP standard rider and his lack of gating skills can not be covered up in such a line up and personally feel that if there are still spaces to fill after the GP Challenge then the best riders or most entertaining should have been considered as wild cards.

 

 

Bartosz Zmarzlik, Patryk Dudek, Michael Jepsen Jensen, Alex Lokatev, Artem Laguta etc etc are young riders who would be much better entertainment or standard rider to fill the spaces.

 

If it is a question of having two Brits (which it isn't) then I would say Craig Cook or Scott Nicholls would be better suited to ride in this meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

Point taken, maybe it's just my desire to see British riders on the World stage, he was a complete flop on Saturday but he was on the pace, or very close to it, for most of the meeting, gating is clearly the main issue for him but that's been done to death already.

 

I can't imagine Craig Cook being able to mix it at that level just yet, even though he can get out of the gate sharpish the likes of Pedersen & co would muscle him out of it, maybe if he has a successful season this term he will be worth consideration.

As for Scott Nicholls, I'm not sure he'd be interested any longer, didn't he virtually give up on being in the GP a couple of years ago, was it the costs?

 

I still think Harris has the wherewithal to put in some decent performances in this year's series, after just one GP I feel it's to early to write him off. Before anyone reminds me, I know he's had previous years and not made the grade but imo he's the best we have, behind Tai obviously.

 

I'm not expecting big things from him, just some glimpses of the exciting rider he can be, he's been the most entertaining British rider for a decade in my book. I was brought up on watching PC and Mort race, neither of them could gate but they produced so much excitement, that's what I love about speedway, the chase. I also watched Mauger during his time at Hyde Road and he didn't excite me, Chris Pusey & Soren Sjosten were my favourites, loved the way they rode, even when they didn't win they were great to watch, that's just my take on it.

 

I hope Chris Harris can find some form and make a fist of it this season, if he doesn't I still won't be slagging him off like some on here, he puts his life on the line every time he goes out to race, for that he will always have my admiration.

[Bruiser McHuge]

In reply to Gustix I've been to the Motorplex in Perth but I cannot see a GP there in a million years to be honest.....I'd love one in Perth though but I don't think it will ever happen...Claremont would have been great prepared for an out and out bike night with the best riders in the world, but not the Motorplex