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[aljack]

With the wage cap, why would cook want to travel all the way to ipswich every week from his home base? Having said that, with the make up of our team, a second top heat leader was probably never in cl thoughts. He seems to think we have a winning team, and its only his choice of how the team is put together. If we start losing and the crowds drop even more, that's his problem to try and sort out. Plus he thinks Morten will be challenging for the number one jacket so obviously we will have a riders in our team with a near 10 average. Although cl must be the only person in speedway that thinks that is going to happen.

 

Well IF??? like we are led to believe cl is one of the big spenders in the premier league (cough!!! splutter!!!) then signing young Cook and paying his travelling expenses should have been no problem. But obviously with cls forecast of Risager is going to overtake Barker in the aveages and might well become no1 who needs Cook. Now lets get back to the real world and not the fantasy world of cl and its realised cl only goes for the cheapest options and thats Risager and Lanham who live only a stone throw away from the stadium and in the case of one probably a new louis family member soon.

[Pinny]

totally agree that the threats and personal abuse were a step too far, what really got on my nerves (personally) he was posting the same and even higher scores in the EL. It was said he didn't like the brick wall around the track, if that was his thinking why sign in the first place?

 

Know what you mean as we had Frampton at Newport averaging about 6.5 and averaging about 5.5 for Coventry in the EL at the same time.

 

Did Gjedde visit Berwicks stadium prior to signing? He hadnt rode PL for years before his return in 2011, it maybe that he forgot about the brick wall or assumed it wouldnt be there anymore... who knows. Could be a number of reasons.

 

I had heard his departure was due to certains things that were agreed not being honoured but that was terrace talk and probably nonsense.

 

He certainly had no problem at Berwick in 2012 scoring double figures there.

 

But I know the Newport promotion were extremely worried and narked off at the same time with the personal threats issued to Charlie and the way the Berwick management done absolutely nothing to prevent their fans from stopping the threats was appauling... certainly in other sports clubs have been fined for similar behavior by the fans.

 

Well IF??? like we are led to believe cl is one of the big spenders in the premier league (cough!!! splutter!!!) then signing young Cook and paying his travelling expenses should have been no problem. But obviously with cls forecast of Risager is going to overtake Barker in the aveages and might well become no1 who needs Cook. Now lets get back to the real world and not the fantasy world of cl and its realised cl only goes for the cheapest options and thats Risager and Lanham who live only a stone throw away from the stadium and in the case of one probably a new louis family member soon.

 

Lanham cheap?! I'd have a rethink mate.

[Bandit1991]

 

 

Know what you mean as we had Frampton at Newport averaging about 6.5 and averaging about 5.5 for Coventry in the EL at the same time.

 

Did Gjedde visit Berwicks stadium prior to signing? He hadnt rode PL for years before his return in 2011, it maybe that he forgot about the brick wall or assumed it wouldnt be there anymore... who knows. Could be a number of reasons.

 

I had heard his departure was due to certains things that were agreed not being honoured but that was terrace talk and probably nonsense.

 

He certainly had no problem at Berwick in 2012 scoring double figures there.

 

But I know the Newport promotion were extremely worried and narked off at the same time with the personal threats issued to Charlie and the way the Berwick management done absolutely nothing to prevent their fans from stopping the threats was appauling... certainly in other sports clubs have been fined for similar behaviour.

 

not sure mate, assumed he'd know the brick wall has been there since I started attending in 2005, as far as I'm aware everything was honoured in terms what Berwick gave Charlie, I know exactly how much he was paid a point...lets just say he made a mockery of that. Opinion of most Berwick fans is/was lowered his average hoping another team place would become available

[Robinh88]

Hadn't some bright spark decided it would be a good idea to have a challenge with Edinburgh. I know injuries are part of the Sport and well life but we lost our No1 that night. Had Rymel won heat one that night we'd probably never have even given Charlie a 2nd glance and you can add Ricky and Seb to that list also.

 

Were very lucky to have Ashworth one wonders what we could have been achieved pre 2012 with his inclusion

[Pinny]

not sure mate, assumed he'd know the brick wall has been there since I started attending in 2005, as far as I'm aware everything was honoured in terms what Berwick gave Charlie, I know exactly how much he was paid a point...lets just say he made a mockery of that. Opinion of most Berwick fans is/was lowered his average hoping another team place would become available

 

Not sure we will ever know the real reasons behind the fall out. Heard so many things its unreal.

 

Dont see how anyone can make a mockery of being paid per point though... if he is on, say, £80 a point. He turns up and bangs in a 15 point max, thats £1200. And a fully deserved £1200.

 

If he turns up and scores 2, thats only £160. The one thing about being paid per point is you get paid what you deserve.

 

You find more riders extracting the urine out of clubs when their on fixed guarantees no matter what they score, yet regulary post returns between 2 and 4 points for a so called number 1.

 

I refuse to believe Charlie signed for Berwick with the sole intention of dropping his average.

 

He was on an attractive average anyway, cant remember what but certainly sub 9 and he was highly linked with a move to Newport prior to signing for Berwick, he was at a few meetings in 2010 at the end of the season and its no secret Steve Mallett almost done a deal with him. Mallett decided to go elsewhere with his team building.

 

For Gjedde to purposely lower his average to join Newport would of meant Mallett building a side with the intention of bombing a rider out at the first opportunity which wasnt the case. To sign Gjedde, along with Doyle and Sedgmen, he had to sack almost half of his side.

 

No, something went wrong with Gjedde and Berwick after he had ridden his first meeting for them. Thats one thing that is certain.

 

Not sure we will ever know the real reasons behind the fall out. Heard so many things its unreal.

 

Dont see how anyone can make a mockery of being paid per point though... if he is on, say, £80 a point. He turns up and bangs in a 15 point max, thats £1200. And a fully deserved £1200.

 

If he turns up and scores 2, thats only £160. The one thing about being paid per point is you get paid what you deserve.

 

You find more riders extracting the urine out of clubs when their on fixed guarantees no matter what they score, yet regulary post returns between 2 and 4 points for a so called number 1.

 

I refuse to believe Charlie signed for Berwick with the sole intention of dropping his average.

 

He was on an attractive average anyway, cant remember what but certainly sub 9. Most knew he would easily maintain his average at least in the PL. he was highly linked with a move to Newport prior to signing for Berwick, he was at a few meetings in 2010 at the end of the season and its no secret Steve Mallett almost done a deal with him. Mallett decided to go elsewhere with his team building.

 

For Gjedde to purposely lower his average to join Newport would of meant Mallett building a side with the intention of bombing a rider out at the first opportunity which wasnt the case. To sign Gjedde, along with Doyle and Sedgmen, he had to sack almost half of his side.

 

No, something went wrong with Gjedde and Berwick after he had ridden his first meeting for them. Thats one thing that is certain.

[aljack]

Lanham cheap?! I'd have a rethink mate.

 

Lanham lives a few yards from louis front door and the foxhall track, so yes cheap no travelling costs involved and Risager is dating louis daughter, say no more!!!

[Pinny]

Lanham lives a few yards from louis front door and the foxhall track, so yes cheap no travelling costs involved

 

And? This means he rides for peanuts per point does it?

[Bandit1991]

 

 

Not sure we will ever know the real reasons behind the fall out. Heard so many things its unreal.

 

Dont see how anyone can make a mockery of being paid per point though... if he is on, say, £80 a point. He turns up and bangs in a 15 point max, thats £1200. And a fully deserved £1200.

 

If he turns up and scores 2, thats only £160. The one thing about being paid per point is you get paid what you deserve.

 

You find more riders extracting the urine out of clubs when their on fixed guarantees no matter what they score, yet regulary post returns between 2 and 4 points for a so called number 1.

 

I refuse to believe Charlie signed for Berwick with the sole intention of dropping his average.

 

He was on an attractive average anyway, cant remember what but certainly sub 9 and he was highly linked with a move to Newport prior to signing for Berwick, he was at a few meetings in 2010 at the end of the season and its no secret Steve Mallett almost done a deal with him. Mallett decided to go elsewhere with his team building.

 

For Gjedde to purposely lower his average to join Newport would of meant Mallett building a side with the intention of bombing a rider out at the first opportunity which wasnt the case. To sign Gjedde, along with Doyle and Sedgmen, he had to sack almost half of his side.

 

No, something went wrong with Gjedde and Berwick after he had ridden his first meeting for them. Thats one thing that is certain.

 

yeah he was on a sub 9 average, someone tell me if I'm wrong but 8.86 keeps popping in my head thatcher have been his average, there's 2 sides to every story I suppose the only people who will know are Berwick promotion and Charlie himself

[E I Addio]

Justin Sedgmen doesn't have a place and has tweeted that it looks like he won't be back in the UK in 2013 even though he wants to.

[squall]

Justin Sedgmen doesn't have a place and has tweeted that it looks like he won't be back in the UK in 2013 even though he wants to.

 

His attitude to the PL in 2012 will have put most off him.

[Teal]

Sedgman - the most arrogant up his own ar$e rider known to man! Good riddance

[Long Eye]

Sedgman - the most arrogant up his own ar$e rider known to man! Good riddance

 

Really? You and I have obviously met different Justin Sedgmans then.

[aljack]

And? This means he rides for peanuts per point does it?

 

Didn't you know its been said on this forum cl is one of the big spenders in the premier league , so if thats the case lanhams point money will be no problem at all but can't imagine he will get good point money anyway.

[Girdy17]

Craig Cook is due to sign for edinburgh in the next few days

[Pinny]

Didn't you know its been said on this forum cl is one of the big spenders in the premier league , so if thats the case lanhams point money will be no problem at all but can't imagine he will get good point money anyway.

 

Not my business to say really but am going to anyway... The Malletts had a few good points as well as bad points at Newport and one good point was that they paid their riders good money, hence why after years of seeing the likes of Rajkowski, Collins, Vedel, Nick Simmons to name a few lining up as NUMBER 1 for Newport during the Tim Stone era we suddenly seen the likes of Doyle, Gjedde and Lanham lining up as number 1, riders who would never dream of riding at Newport before the Malletts were on the scene. Although this ultimately could of been the downfall of the club amongst other things!

 

Unless Lanham has taken a big pay cut then I would imagine he is on a pretty good deal at Ipswich.

[aljack]

Unless Lanham has taken a big pay cut then I would imagine he is on a pretty good deal at Ipswich.

 

Tell me what do you base your "imagine" on ??? Lanham is nearing 36 or is and his best years are behind him if that is he had any and he goes to cls for chats and tea and biscuits. So as he lived on cls door step he was an obvious cheap option and having a good deal was secondary in any dealings I would guess, more like how many cups of tea and bourbons.

[Pinny]

Tell me what do you base your "imagine" on ??? Lanham is nearing 36 or is and his best years are behind him if that is he had any and he goes to cls for chats and tea and biscuits. So as he lived on cls door step he was an obvious cheap option and having a good deal was secondary in any dealings I would guess, more like how many cups of tea and bourbons.

 

I base my "imagine" on the fact it is very rare a speedway rider takes a substancial pay cut.

 

So what if Lanham is pally with the Louis family?

 

Calling a rider a "cheap option" because they live local shows a complete lack of knowledge. Maybe Ward was a cheap option for Lynn in 2009 as he lived in the stadium grounds in a caravan?

 

I used to defend you when most others slated you and thought your views were correct even if a bit extreme at times but these last few posts of yours really do leave me wondering if you have much knowledge of the speedway world.

[Long Eye]

I base my "imagine" on the fact it is very rare a speedway rider takes a substancial pay cut.

 

So what if Lanham is pally with the Louis family?

 

Calling a rider a "cheap option" because they live local shows a complete lack of knowledge. Maybe Ward was a cheap option for Lynn in 2009 as he lived in the stadium grounds in a caravan?

 

I used to defend you when most others slated you and thought your views were correct even if a bit extreme at times but these last few posts of yours really do leave me wondering if you have much knowledge of the speedway world.

 

I don't think Aljack has any knowledge of the world let alone the speedway world.

[pushrod]

I don't think Aljack has any knowledge of the world let alone the speedway world.

i second that, another one who thinks he nows everything and probably doesant no one end of a speedway bike to the other ,and doesant understand that in the real world, these guys do not ride for peanuts cos they live local,most riders who come over here to ride will all base themselfs local to each track they are riding for,so most of the rider at these clubs are locals ,so they must all be cheap,,,,,,,,so the 1998 team must of been very cheap,cos the one who lived the furthest away lived at old newton near stowemarket,they realy could of got more expensive riders that year ,i rearly feel cheated,,,,,,,,,they could of got a better team to to make us fans proud of,,,,,,and lets get one thing sorted,i am not your friend,i no u have none,so dont try and befriend me

[aljack]

I base my "imagine" on the fact it is very rare a speedway rider takes a substancial pay cut.

 

So what if Lanham is pally with the Louis family?

 

Calling a rider a "cheap option" because they live local shows a complete lack of knowledge. Maybe Ward was a cheap option for Lynn in 2009 as he lived in the stadium grounds in a caravan?

 

I used to defend you when most others slated you and thought your views were correct even if a bit extreme at times but these last few posts of yours really do leave me wondering if you have much knowledge of the speedway world.

 

Cheap option.....means in this case Lanham lives very local so requires no travelling expenses when riding at home whereas if Craig Cook was signed he would need a huge amount of travelling expenses to come from his far Northern home. Hope Ive made it clear now...... I need no defending by you or anyone else as I say it as it is and pull no punches and do not live in a holier than thou world like so many, so its up to the beholder if he agrees or not. As far as Im concerned I do not care a toss if he does or not ok.....