Perceived Nl Reserve Or Junior Teams

[greyhoundp]

NL Teams who run under a senior Team have this perception of being reserve Teams which they arent or have never been, I cant think of one over the years that has had any kind of succesful attendance figures. Coventry CL, Wolves CL, Bournemouth NL, Newport CL & NL, Scunny NL, Belle Vue NL, Rye House NL, Kings Lynn NL, Newcastle NL, all have tried and failed, what it really needs is not only for the promoters to try the NL, but they have to try something different, such as if they are a Senior team season ticket holder, they can watch NL for half price, or produce a Senior program <though open to abuse> for half price admission to NL meetings. Surely its better to have 200 spectators at £5/6 than 50 at a tenner. Get out to local junior schools, and give demonstrations by riders and bikes, along with a video or three, give them free tickets for NL meetings, along with a fixture list, I personally can only see Coventry running for 1 season unless something is tried outside of the norm, something pro active has to be tried to get spectators through the gates, normally most Teams give kids for free with a paying adult, why not try reverse psychology and give adults free with the child who uses promotional ticket cuz its of no use just to say, we are doing NL racing in 2013/14 or whatever, because history says it wont last. Use NL racing to try different promotional activities, and if they are succesful then these junior Teams will have a future, it may also be worthwhile trying a fiver admission for less attractive meetings, such as against Dudley cant let it go without mentioning us, cuz a fiver admission occasionally has to be better than spectator not going at all.

 

Come on Lorro, you know it makes sense.

Edited November 28, 2012 by greyhoundp

[Damon]

I think you make some good points, but most of the above should be happening all the time for the speedway promotion in general, whatever the team. I would have thought most of these things would be going on, to try and get the crowds big enough to withstand/cover EL or PL costs, let alone NL.

It would be no good having a NL that ticks over and the EL/PL team failing due to not enough people at the event.

The general public have only got so much money to spend, and for example if Mildenhall ran two teams, I would probably watch the senior team first choice? or perhaps pick and choose my meetings accordingly, I couldn't afford to go to all of them, but thats just my situation.

In the local football club i attend, we have the largest crowd for the first team, but we do get some people who attend the youth and the reserve type sides, but not as many. Some of this is down to not being able to afford to go to everything.

[speedibee]

NL Teams who run under a senior Team have this perception of being reserve Teams which they arent or have never been, I cant think of one over the years that has had any kind of succesful attendance figures. Coventry CL, Wolves CL, Bournemouth NL, Newport CL & NL, Scunny NL, Belle Vue NL, Rye House NL, Kings Lynn NL, Newcastle NL, all have tried and failed, what it really needs is not only for the promoters to try the NL, but they have to try something different, such as if they are a Senior team season ticket holder, they can watch NL for half price, or produce a Senior program <though open to abuse> for half price admission to NL meetings. Surely its better to have 200 spectators at £5/6 than 50 at a tenner. Get out to local junior schools, and give demonstrations by riders and bikes, along with a video or three, give them free tickets for NL meetings, along with a fixture list, I personally can only see Coventry running for 1 season unless something is tried outside of the norm, something pro active has to be tried to get spectators through the gates, normally most Teams give kids for free with a paying adult, why not try reverse psychology and give adults free with the child who uses promotional ticket cuz its of no use just to say, we are doing NL racing in 2013/14 or whatever, because history says it wont last. Use NL racing to try different promotional activities, and if they are succesful then these junior Teams will have a future, it may also be worthwhile trying a fiver admission for less attractive meetings, such as against Dudley cant let it go without mentioning us, cuz a fiver admission occasionally has to be better than spectator not going at all.

 

Come on Lorro, you know it makes sense.

Half the NL riders would have to ask for time off school to visit a school

[greyhoundp]

Half the NL riders would have to ask for time off school to visit a school

 

Haha, Im sure it could be arranged SB.

[21st century heathen]

The lads still at school could present to their own school with help from the club. Take a bike to the school, and a presentation on the sport by the Promoter/Team Manager with the rider dressed in his kevs talking about the bike and how cool it is to be chucking it around a track. The kids would listen and perhaps take it on board from someone their own age that speaks their 'language'. Have a DVD playing, perhaps the crashes and cock-ups being the most eye-catching to anyone not already a fan. Work closely with the school and maybe (slim chance but maybe) a school with a large enough playing field could allow the rider to slide a couple of imaginary laps (just enough to demonstrate sliding the bike). In areas around the training tracks they could even invite the schools along on a trip to see what's what when the track is actually being used. The young rider then has the opportunity to get out there and show them properly. It's all about how the club pitch it to the schools. Give it some 'look at what we are doing to get kids off the street and give them some sense of direction' spin.

 

The whole sport needs to promote itself more and better. It doesn't always have to cost a lot. The above wouldn't cost anything really. Picking up on the main point made about clubs doing EL/PL and the NL - I wonder if it's worth a club being brave enough to say admission by donation of at least £5 for each adult, under 18's free? I think you'd get more of you regular fans turn up if it's made far more financially attractive. Using Cov as an example - if they come in and charge £10/£11 adult, £7/£8 concessions and kids at £2/£3 it's going to be a squeeze on their fans to try to sell a product that the fans are mostly unfamiliar with. The mindset is going to be can we afford it and what are we getting for our money.

[Parsloes 1928 nearly]

Bournemouth wasn't a failure. The crowds held up well across both years and it was well promoted - separate branding etc.

Sure the experiment only lasted two years but I don't think for a second anyone connected with the Buccs would brand it a failure.

[speedibee]

Bournemouth wasn't a failure. The crowds held up well across both years and it was well promoted - separate branding etc.

Sure the experiment only lasted two years but I don't think for a second anyone connected with the Buccs would brand it a failure.

I thought the support had dwindled so much that matt ford pulled the plug

 

The lads still at school could present to their own school with help from the club. Take a bike to the school, and a presentation on the sport by the Promoter/Team Manager with the rider dressed in his kevs talking about the bike and how cool it is to be chucking it around a track. The kids would listen and perhaps take it on board from someone their own age that speaks their 'language'. Have a DVD playing, perhaps the crashes and cock-ups being the most eye-catching to anyone not already a fan. Work closely with the school and maybe (slim chance but maybe) a school with a large enough playing field could allow the rider to slide a couple of imaginary laps (just enough to demonstrate sliding the bike). In areas around the training tracks they could even invite the schools along on a trip to see what's what when the track is actually being used. The young rider then has the opportunity to get out there and show them properly. It's all about how the club pitch it to the schools. Give it some 'look at what we are doing to get kids off the street and give them some sense of direction' spin.

 

The whole sport needs to promote itself more and better. It doesn't always have to cost a lot. The above wouldn't cost anything really. Picking up on the main point made about clubs doing EL/PL and the NL - I wonder if it's worth a club being brave enough to say admission by donation of at least £5 for each adult, under 18's free? I think you'd get more of you regular fans turn up if it's made far more financially attractive. Using Cov as an example - if they come in and charge £10/£11 adult, £7/£8 concessions and kids at £2/£3 it's going to be a squeeze on their fans to try to sell a product that the fans are mostly unfamiliar with. The mindset is going to be can we afford it and what are we getting for our money.

not sure kids have the relative presentation skills to be standing in front of their peers trying to extol the virtue of something that is not football. I agree with most of your other points though . so many people tell how neighbours and work colleagues don't know that speedway still exists .

[21st century heathen]

I also thought poor attendance was the reason for Bournemouth closing.

 

I think the teens need someone their own age to tell them it's cool which is why having a rider around their own age could make a difference. As I stated you do need help from the Promotion/Manager too. I just feel that with teenagers speaking their own dialect you need someone who can speak their language.