500cc Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm sorry, nothing against Tai but how did he get "approval" to ride in the European Championship, when at least three (that I know of) British riders were not permitted to take part? It does sound a bit like one rule for one, one for the rest! To be honest, British speedway has zero credibility. So Scott Nicholls gets effectively 'threatened' when asking to take part and now they allow Tai to participate. So to those in authority, any chance of publicly apologising for your treatment of Scott Nicholls? The BSPA are a total embarassment. Sadly, the worst thing that could happen is for Sky to continue to subsidise them. They would dance up and down celebrating extended funding without recognising that elite level sport in this country needs a fundamental overhaul. I'm one of those fans who attended weekly for years but now just watch on Sky (and now also Eurosport) for free. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Maybe tai has changed nationality again 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Yes and he wants to be called dai from now on boyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I can't seem to find the regulations for these meetings, i'm sure i had them lol. I take it that these four finals are of standard 20 heats individual format and no semi-finals or finals. Also the champion is the one with the most points earned over the four rounds and no Grand Final etc? Dear God let's hope we don't have the movable gates option as in the Eurosport pairs lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I can't seem to find the regulations for these meetings, i'm sure i had them lol. I take it that these four finals are of standard 20 heats individual format and no semi-finals or finals. Also the champion is the one with the most points earned over the four rounds and no Grand Final etc? Dear God let's hope we don't have the movable gates option as in the Eurosport pairs lol. I would think that as these finals are on TV there is bound to be at least a final(top scorers race) at each meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) I would think that as these finals are on TV there is bound to be at least a final(top scorers race) at each meeting. Just had a vague inkling that they had said in their initial blurb earlier in the year that it was a traditional classic/simple format. I've not really looked into it much at all, i'll have a Google around tomorrow. UPDATE A quick Google just before i sign out reveals this from an article in Spotowefakty in December last year, i presume it still holds true? "European Champion will be announced after playing four finals, and each of them will take place according to the formula in force in the Grand Prix at the beginning of its existence. After twenty races will be four finals: D, C, B and A. A final winner, which will start the four best players on the stage of basic, receives 6 points overall." Presuming they are referring to the SGP, i was away from the sport when that began so i''ll need to do some historical Googling to find the meeting format, as i can't find mention of it under any of the tabs on the new reconstructed official site. The UEM/FIM Europe site has zero too. Anyone remember the early days of the SGP? Are the D, C, B, A, finals for rider places 16-13, 12-9, 8-5, 4-1 and they earn points as a normal heat, save for the exception of the 'A' final winner who gets 6. Or do the four winners of those 'finals' go to a Grand Final with the winner of that getting six points? Edited July 9, 2013 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Just had a vague inkling that they had said in their initial blurb earlier in the year that it was a traditional classic/simple format. I've not really looked into it much at all, i'll have a Google around tomorrow. UPDATE A quick Google just before i sign out reveals this from an article in Spotowefakty in December last year, i presume it still holds true? "European Champion will be announced after playing four finals, and each of them will take place according to the formula in force in the Grand Prix at the beginning of its existence. After twenty races will be four finals: D, C, B and A. A final winner, which will start the four best players on the stage of basic, receives 6 points overall." Presuming they are referring to the SGP, i was away from the sport when that began so i''ll need to do some historical Googling to find the meeting format, as i can't find mention of it under any of the tabs on the new reconstructed official site. The UEM/FIM Europe site has zero too. Anyone remember the early days of the SGP? Are the D, C, B, A, finals for rider places 16-13, 12-9, 8-5, 4-1 and they earn points as a normal heat, save for the exception of the 'A' final winner who gets 6. Or do the four winners of those 'finals' go to a Grand Final with the winner of that getting six points? Google translation of another Sportowefakty article in June Everything starts and finishes in Poland. At each tournament will consist of 22 races. Some essential, as in the Grand Prix, will be 20 speed. After them, two of the best in the classification immediately advance to the grand final. Speedway riders to finish third to sixth in the race will face play-off, which are at stake in the other two places. Interestingly, the points gained in this course will not be included in the classification Maximum winner of each tournament will therefore be able to get 18 points, starting six. Individual title of European Champion will win best played in four finals So i am assuming top 2 scorers after 20 heats go to final.race. Race 21 is for next 4 highest-where 1st and 2nd get into the final heat 22 to join the top 2 scorers. points scored in final count in total 3,2,1,0. Points are only scored in heats 1 to 20 plus heat 22. Therefore max points available in any round is 15 pt max + 3 for winning final=18 Edited July 9, 2013 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Google translation of another Sportowefakty article in June Everything starts and finishes in Poland. At each tournament will consist of 22 races. Some essential, as in the Grand Prix, will be 20 speed. After them, two of the best in the classification immediately advance to the grand final. Speedway riders to finish third to sixth in the race will face play-off, which are at stake in the other two places. Interestingly, the points gained in this course will not be included in the classification Maximum winner of each tournament will therefore be able to get 18 points, starting six. Individual title of European Champion will win best played in four finals So i am assuming top 2 scorers after 20 heats go to final.race. Race 21 is for next 4 highest-where 1st and 2nd get into the final heat 22 to join the top 2 scorers. points scored in final count in total 3,2,1,0. Points are only scored in heats 1 to 20 plus heat 22. Therefore max points available in any round is 15 pt max + 3 for winning final=18 Good spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B's Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 It's easy really. Nicholls & Co riding in SEC would mean the meetings clashing with their British League commitments. Where as Tai doesn't have any clashes so would be free to ride. No brainer really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 So after the challenge final today we now know the field for the 4 final rounds - Live on British Eurosport seeded A Dryml N Pedersen Gollob Woffinden Sayfutdinov Jonsson Qualified Pavlic Povazhny G Laguta Vaculik Karpov Janowski Andersen Ulamek Puodzuks plus i would imagine 1 local wild-card. Freddie Lindgren replaces the injured Andreas Jonsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Wild card for the final opening round in Gdansk is 18 yr old Gdansk rider Kristen Pieszczek. Start time on Saturday 27th July is 5.30 pm uk time Edited July 17, 2013 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Why not Jonasson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I had forgotten all about this and it's only a week away! FULL RULES & REGULATIONS are available here http://www.uem-moto.eu/images/pdf/2013/Rules%202013/Track_racing/2013_FIM_Europe_Track_Racing_Regulation.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 FULL RULES & REGULATIONS are available here Holy pooh! - €14,000 minimum per rider for insurance. Whose pockets will that come out of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Holy pooh! - €14,000 minimum per rider for insurance. Whose pockets will that come out of? Not read it but would presume it means riders have to have insurance that covers them up to that sum rather than have to pay that much for insurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Gdansk draw-courtesy of the SEC website Starting line-up: 1. (5) Emil Sayfutdinov (RUS) 2. (16) Krystian Pieszczek (POL) 3. (4) Nicki Pedersen (DEN) 4. (8) Grigorij Laguta (RUS) 5. (3) Fredrik Lindgren (SWE) 6. (11) Maciej Janowski (POL) 7. (10) Andriej Karpov (UKR) 8. (2) Tomasz Gollob (POL) 9. (14) Kjastas Puodzuks (LAT) 10. (7) Roman Povazhny (RUS) 11. (1) Ales DRYML (CZE) 12. (12) Hans Andersen (DEN) 13. (15) Tai Woffinden (GBR) 14. (9) Martin Vaculik (SVK) 15. (13) Sebastian Ulamek (POL) 16. (6) Jurica Pavlic (CRO) 17. (17) Robert Miskowiak (POL) 18. (18) Artur Mroczka (POL) Heat after heat: 1. Emil Sayfutdinov, Krystian Pieszczek, Nicki Pedersen, Grigorij Laguta 2. Fredrik Lindgren, Andrij Karpov, Maciej Janowski, Tomasz Gollob 3. Roman Povazhnyi, Ales Dryml, Kjastas Puodzuks, Hans Andersen 4. Sebastian Ułamek, Martin Vaculik, Jurica Pavlic, Tai Woffinden 5. Tai Woffinden, Emil Sayfutdinov, Fredrik Lindgren, Kjastas Puodzuks 6. Martin Vaculik, Roman Povazhny, Krystian Pieszczek, Maciej Janowski 7. Ales Dryml, Sebastian Ułamek, Andrij Karpow, Nicki Pedersen 8. Grigorij Laguta, Tomasz Gollob, Hans Andersen, Jurica Pavlic 9. Maciej Janowski, Jurica Pavlic, Emil Sayfutdinow, Ales Dryml 10. Hans Andersen, Fredrik Lindgren, Sebastian Ułamek, Krystian Pieszczek 11. Tomasz Gollob, Kjastas Puodzuks, Nicki Pedersen, Martin Vaculik 12. Tai Woffinden, Grigorij Laguta, Roman Povazhny, Andrij Karpov 13. Andrij Karpov, Hans Andersen, Martin Vaculik, Emil Sayfutdinov 14. Krystian Pieszczek, Tai Woffinden, Tomasz Gollob, Ales Dryml 15. Jurica Pavlic, Nicki Pedersen, Roman Povazhny, Fredrik Lindgren 16. Kjastas Puodzuks, Maciej Janowski, Grigorij Laguta, Sebastian Ułamek 17. Emil Sayfutdinov, Tomasz Gollob, Sebastian Ułamek, Roman Povazhny 18. Kjastas Puodzuks, Krystian Pieszczek, Andrij Karpov, Jurica Pavlic 19. Nicki Pedersen, Hans Andersen, Tai Woffinden, Maciej Janowski 20. Fredrik Lindgren, Martin Vaculik, Ales Dryml, Grigorij Laguta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 A pretty interesting line up for the series. Greg Laguta has a chance to show why he should be in the GP and Karpov, Pavlic and Puodzuks are useful riders. Plenty of top men in as well to make it a worthwhile rival to the SGP. Hope it succeeds and becomes a regular fixture on Eurosport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Webmaster Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Race Card for European Championships Round 1 in Gdansk the 27th July 2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 PLEASE,PLEASE call this championship something else,we are just getting to the climax of the world championship and along comes this europeon championship,what the.....was the planning behind this? Why not call it rider invite competition,or super speedway4,anything that doesnt confuse!!!! people about championship speedway!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) PLEASE,PLEASE call this championship something else,we are just getting to the climax of the world championship and along comes this europeon championship,what the.....was the planning behind this? Why not call it rider invite competition,or super speedway4,anything that doesnt confuse!!!! people about championship speedway!!!!! To be fair to the competition the UEM(now FIM/Europe)has been around for years and so has the euro championships-previously very much a 2nd tier competition however ONE SPORT.PL have decided to re-vamp it-throw some decent prize money in the pot and all of a sudden top riders have become interested-something else to watch on 4 Saturday`s I suppose.The most interesting thing In all this is the hostility between BSI and One sport.Snippets have appeared in the polish press and this feud could run and run. Edited July 23, 2013 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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