Catalan Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 As far as I am lead to believe his Somerset deal is concrete for 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldswindonsupporter Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 That's as may be, but if Swindon do not own him, it can't be considered a done deal as they no right to loan him out. He is still a Glasgow asset until should time money changes hands or any other agreement is made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaptooth Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 As has been proved over and over, a rider is only going where he wants . Doesn't matter who holds his cards. As for Garry May, he's a great guy and more than capable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 How sad is speedway again when something like this arises one month before the start of the season. I refuse to believe that nobody new about this. Â I am pretty sure that it was known about, but probably it was hoped that agreements would be honoured as usual. Apparently not. Â It is amazing what our #1 will do to try an encourage new fans to the Oak Tree Arena! Â A working colleague of mine took his family off to Oz over Christmas for a month and booked them on a twilight walk over the Sidney Harbour Bridge. He got chatting to a couple who were teathered next to them and found out that the guy was a Speedway Rider. Him knowing about the Rebels (as I do my own bit of promoting at work myself) he asked "Have you heard of the Somerset Rebels" of which the reply was "Yes. I have signed for them again this year". As you can see, that rider was none other than our Jason Doyle. Â Now what are the chances of JD doing exactly the same walk over the bridge at the same time and adjacent to someone from Somerset who knows of the existance of the Rebels and who gets chatting about them? Pretty damn slim I would say. But here is the evidence: Â Great story and pic to prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Swindon have loaned a rider to Somerset who is not theirs to loan, I don't know where Morris would be living next season but I assume riding for Swindon and Somerset fitted in with his travelling. Might be a problem if a northern track buys him, and could leave us in the lurch at start of the season. Â On the other hand there is a rider fans would love to see back, Claus Vissing in this weeks Star, says he wants a team place in Britian, he said money is not a big issue and wants to have some fun doing what he loves. He added he had hoped to be back at Somerset and was offered a contract and expected to be back there. Â I wonder what went wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 On the other hand there is a rider fans would love to see back, Claus Vissing in this weeks Star, says he wants a team place in Britian, he said money is not a big issue and wants to have some fun doing what he loves. He added he had hoped to be back at Somerset and was offered a contract and expected to be back there. I wonder what went wrong?  Teams would be foolish to put all their eggs in one basket, and go out narrow minded aiming to just sign a set 7 riders. Say one of them joins another team, there must be a plan B just in case. Maybe Claus Vissing was just a plan B, it's all rather irrelevant really as the team is complete and whilst it's sad to see, he's not part of it.  Personally would of taken Monberg over Claus anyway - although Claus was superb entertainment value.  On the other hand there is a rider fans would love to see back, Claus Vissing in this weeks Star, says he wants a team place in Britian, he said money is not a big issue and wants to have some fun doing what he loves. He added he had hoped to be back at Somerset and was offered a contract and expected to be back there. I wonder what went wrong?  Teams would be foolish to put all their eggs in one basket, and go out narrow minded aiming to just sign a set 7 riders. Say one of them joins another team, there must be a plan B just in case. Maybe Claus Vissing was just a plan B, it's all rather irrelevant really as the team is complete and whilst it's sad to see, he's not part of it.  Personally would of taken Monberg over Claus anyway - although Claus was superb entertainment value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthetiger Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 How sad is speedway again when something like this arises one month before the start of the season. I refuse to believe that nobody new about this. Â People within speedway were aware of the problem, it is to the old Glasgow promotion's credit they kept quiet until now. Swindon, it seems, have no credit anywhere. Especially at the bank! Â If another club -- in either league -- approaches Glasgow with ready money, Nick Morris will be there, and it might not suit a purchaser to then loan him on to the Rebels. Certainly, if they really want him at the OTA, they will have to talk to Glasgow about buying him -- as he is an asset of the old Glasgow company, they have no interest in any loan deal. They need the cash! Â As we are all aware, speedway is dangerous, and if a rider is injured early doors, Nick might well get a gig at almost any track. Â Somerset are unlucky in this deal, as it has to be assumed they didn't know Swindon didn't own the rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 There is bound to be a club ready to jump in with a bid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremierRebel Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I wonder what went wrong? Â Money & travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Interestingly there is no mention of the Morris saga on the Rebels site, so I should imagine it is business as usual.I suppose if it did go pear shaped, and it will only go that way imo if the Batch thing dosn`t happen,there will be a call going out to either Claus or JBM asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowasthatberntpersson Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 It needs to be remembered that a rider has to agree to a transfer. A club can't just ship a rider off to any old club, the rider has to be in agreement. Mr Dick forgot to mention that in the speedway star story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 It needs to be remembered that a rider has to agree to a transfer. A club can't just ship a rider off to any old club, the rider has to be in agreement. Mr Dick forgot to mention that in the speedway star story. Â And you need to remember that the rider must have agreed to the transfer for it to have got to the stage of monies being due because of contracts. So therefore Dick didn't forget and didn't need to mention it. Talk about inventing a story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowasthatberntpersson Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 And you need to remember that the rider must have agreed to the transfer for it to have got to the stage of monies being due because of contracts. So therefore Dick didn't forget and didn't need to mention it. Talk about inventing a story. Â It is relevent to the story because it sounds like Dick is trying to start a bidding war, he's entitled to do that but Nick still has to agree to a transfer. Nick Morris has to want to go to A particular track. Â . Â In this case he wanted to go to Swindon, and double up with Somerset, and i'm sure it will all get sorted out very shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthetiger Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 It is relevent to the story because it sounds like Dick is trying to start a bidding war, he's entitled to do that but Nick still has to agree to a transfer. Nick Morris has to want to go to A particular track. Â In this case he wanted to go to Swindon, and double up with Somerset, and i'm sure it will all get sorted out very shortly. Â All correct, but even if your boy wants to go to Swindon (and double down to Somerset, who are a bit unlucky here but did presumably believe what Mr Patchett was saying, which might have been a little naive) if the Swindon promotion are unable/unwilling to stump up promised cash then it is clear he can go anywhere he wants except Blunsdon! After this affair, are Glasgow likely to agree to trust Swindon on any deal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 All correct, but even if your boy wants to go to Swindon (and double down to Somerset, who are a bit unlucky here but did presumably believe what Mr Patchett was saying, which might have been a little naive) if the Swindon promotion are unable/unwilling to stump up promised cash then it is clear he can go anywhere he wants except Blunsdon! After this affair, are Glasgow likely to agree to trust Swindon on any deal? Â Or any other team to trust them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Â Â Or any other team to trust them. didnt another certain team do that to us??... 2 years ago?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Yup and he now rides for Peterborough. Funnily enough, there is a link here to both aborted signings. Edited February 25, 2013 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Yup and he now rides for Peterborough. Funnily enough, there is a link here to both aborted signings. Â Do you remember the Thomas Jonasson one too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Do you remember the Thomas Jonasson one too? Â Certainly do. It has got to be remembered that a PL selling a good asset is a financial windfall for them that might have been factored in to their financial forecasts. Richer owners of the buying club should remember that when not honouring a transaction, they should think a bit more about contract conclusions and the knock on affects to others futures within the sport. A deal is a deal and should be met. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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