Badge Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Jo is a busy boy at the week end guesting, but not for the Witches. Well done Somerset on your win. Both Rohan and Leigh looked very shaken after the meeting tbh, nasty crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presenter Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 FIrstly well done to the rebels, but I think the total lack of atmosphere and lack of presentation trying to gee the crowd to get behind our boys didn't help. It didn't seem like a cup final to me. Far better atmosphere last night with The tigers. And there in lies a problem as you had the same meeting presenter at both events. As that person, I can only do as much with a crowd as they are willing to give. I have never been a fan of "war-cries", as I believe they have very little effect unless the majority of the supporters participate in them. Tonight we had three, at the start mid meeting and again towards the end. If fans do not want to participate then I can't do a lot about that. Another age-old gripe is that we dont bring you enough interviews from the riders, and tonight we had reaction from riders (from both teams) along with the Witches management. The design of Foxhall Stadium does not help, as any atmosphere that you try to create quickly disappears over the fence and off over the heath. The contrast with the Mildenhall meeting at King's Lynn was noticable from my perspective. A stadium with no near-by residents to worry about, therefore allowing the use of airhorns, a state-of-the-art PA system and back-of-house equipement rather than the aged old stuff that is at Foxhall. Plus a band of die-hard supporters who truely get behind their team whether they are winning or losing. So rather than pointing the finger in my direction, perhaps you should point it in the direction of the very people who should be creating this mystical "atmosphere" that we hear so much about. Regards 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Does seem that at Foxhall if you do anything in more than a raised voice your neighbours will be very disapproving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 was there any rebels fan there tonighr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Just a few on the back straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needles Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 was there any rebels fan there tonighr? Yes, there were, complete with a very large flag! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 thanks didn't think many would have made the trip, is this the flag that stopped the 2 mins in heat 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) great showing from cookie, with him in the team it would have been monarchs in the ko cup final instead of ipswich! well done somerset. Edited October 26, 2012 by scotchopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Well done the Rebels. Looks like Kyle was busy last night fliting between Ipo and Peterbough. he scored 5+2 for Poole. Perhaps thats why he didn't get a 7th ride. Hes going to be Knackared for tonight From the BSPA Result site at 05:00 this morning ELITE LEAGUE KO CUP S/F 2nd leg PETERBOROUGH 50: Hans Andersen 14, Richard Lawson 10+1, Michael Jepsen 10, Rene Bach 9+3, Norbert Kosciuch 7+3, Mads Korneliussen 0, Ryan Sullivan R/R. POOLE 43: Krzysztof Kasprzak 18+1, Niels Kristian Iversen 14, Sam Masters 6, Kyle Newman 5+2, Ricky Kling 0, Chris Holder 0, Piotr Pawlicki R/R. Poole win 94-89 on aggregate. LEAGUE CUP FINAL 2nd leg IPSWICH 51: Morten Risager 11+2, Leigh Lanham 10+2, Rohan Tungate 8+2, Taylor Poole 8+1, Mathieu Tresarrieu 7+1, Dakota North 6+1, Stefan Nielsen 1. SOMERSET 42: Craig Cook 15, Jesper B Monberg 10+1, Kyle Newman 10+1, Alex Davies 4+1, Claus Vissing 3+1, James Wright 0, Lewis Kerr 0. Somerset win 95-90 on aggregate Edited October 26, 2012 by idh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm still like a frozen block of ice....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm still like a frozen block of ice....... Good luck for Saturday then!! Last night was positively balmy compared to the forecast!! Lets hope the track action is enough to warm us all up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) After last night i feel more confident about winning the proper cup. All the riders did as well as expected except Dak, but he's been our best rider lately, so he's allowed one off night. For the past few weeks the track has been excellent, passing inside and outside all meeting (if you're quick enough), but last night that inside line didn't appear as good on bends 1&2. Message to Pete Simmons, when changing the reserves about, dont worry about who the opposition is, just put Tress in off gate 3 or 4, and Stefan off 1 or 2. If that bloody frog screws up anymore 1st bends when he locks up and screws himself (and sometimes his teammate) then we'll be dropping more points. I enjoy watching him ride after bend 2, but the number of times his cocked up the 1st bend when he's gated of the inside, is far far too many times for my liking, and no doubt his teammates. Oops almost forgot, well done to the Rebels. Edited October 26, 2012 by spanner47 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Heat 14 saw game over as Newman who hadn't done to much until then, he had beaten a team mate and Nielsen 3 times, and Tress once, outgated a under performing North( best bikes on way to Argentina maybe?) and Tress. How can you say that? In the context of a match of this nature, where you are defending a lead, beating your opponents riders that amount of times is a big factor in the overall result. If you push Kyle down one place in each of those races, you get an 8-point turnaround in the result, and Ipswich would now be the League Cup winners..............so I would say that he had done a lot !! Under any circumstances 9+2 (one more point than Taylor Poole BTW) from a reserve in any match is a very important contribution 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm still like a frozen block of ice....... Wasnt that bad..... Watch the pigs are they still ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Good luck for Saturday then!! Last night was positively balmy compared to the forecast!! Lets hope the track action is enough to warm us all up!! Ah but Saturday I will have someone to cuddle up to and keep me warm...... Wasnt that bad..... Watch the pigs are they still ok? Eh? Ah...do you mean my nightshirt? Womble, I agree...Newman had a brilliant night and I groaned every time he came out as I expected him to do damage to our scoreline...which he generally did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Ah but Saturday I will have someone to cuddle up to and keep me warm...... Eh? Ah...do you mean my nightshirt? Womble, I agree...Newman had a brilliant night and I groaned every time he came out as I expected him to do damage to our scoreline...which he generally did. meant the cold Not sure i understand that ........& if i guess right too much information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Oh! well no humble pie for me then as my realist views were proved to be correct yet again Witches lack of a big hitter cost us any real chance of ever overturning that huge 14 point deficit as Craig Cook scored the easiest 15 point maximum imaginable. Actually the Witches did give it 100% effort but you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear and the result was never in doubt. Cannot help feeling the same will happen against Newcastle and CL has alot to think about next season if EVER the Witches are going to have any success. Gates are down everywhere by 20% but I fear Witches are down more than that and last nights gate being a final was pathetic. Sky are thinking of pulling the plug on showing elite league speedway if that happens CL can spend more time on getting a more competitive Witches team together with that genuine big-hitter at no1. But the compilation of the team is so important and needs alot of nous and the finger on the button at all times so we will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 How can you say that? In the context of a match of this nature, where you are defending a lead, beating your opponents riders that amount of times is a big factor in the overall result. If you push Kyle down one place in each of those races, you get an 8-point turnaround in the result, and Ipswich would now be the League Cup winners..............so I would say that he had done a lot !! Under any circumstances 9+2 (one more point than Taylor Poole BTW) from a reserve in any match is a very important contribution Don't get me wrong, 9+2 away from home is a great score but he didn't have to do much for his points though, take a look. Heat 02: Tresarrieu, Newman, Nielsen, Kerr Beat 2 NL riders inc team mate Heat 04: Tungate, Newman, Vissing, Nielsen Beat NL rider and Team-mate Vissing (Vissing's only time he beat an opponent) Heat 08: Risager, Davies, Newman, Tresarrieu Beat Tress Heat 10: Lanham, Risager, Monberg, Newman Heat 12: Poole, Newman, Monberg, Nielsen X 3 riders only after NL Nielsen excluded, beat Team mate Heat 14: Newman, North, Tresarrieu, Wright Superb gate to effectively win the Rebels the meeting. I've always said that for riders to do their jobs the rider in Red has to beat White, Blue has to beat Yellow. So Newman did his job 5 times to 1, and thats 4 points gained, he also beat "red" in last heat so thats an extra 2. Job done! Rebels win. Couls also say the same of Vissing, his 3 points were 3 more than Ipswich got, but he only beat team mate on wrong side of a 5-1 twice and then Nielsen. Swings and roundabouts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Oh! well no humble pie for me then as my realist views were proved to be correct yet again Witches lack of a big hitter cost us any real chance of ever overturning that huge 14 point deficit as Craig Cook scored the easiest 15 point maximum imaginable. Actually the Witches did give it 100% effort but you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear and the result was never in doubt. Cannot help feeling the same will happen against Newcastle and CL has alot to think about next season if EVER the Witches are going to have any success. Gates are down everywhere by 20% but I fear Witches are down more than that and last nights gate being a final was pathetic. Sky are thinking of pulling the plug on showing elite league speedway if that happens CL can spend more time on getting a more competitive Witches team together with that genuine big-hitter at no1. But the compilation of the team is so important and needs alot of nous and the finger on the button at all times so we will see It wasnt at the top end that we lost out though - Leigh paid 12 Morten paid 13 - it was at reserve. Following a good win in heat 2 Mat scored 4 from 4. Newman after heat 2 scored 8 from 5. I hope Mat will put that right on Saturday as if he does I think we will be in pole position with a decent lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 It wasnt at the top end that we lost out though - Leigh paid 12 Morten paid 13 - it was at reserve. Following a good win in heat 2 Mat scored 4 from 4. Newman after heat 2 scored 8 from 5. I hope Mat will put that right on Saturday as if he does I think we will be in pole position with a decent lead. Yes it was at the top end we lost the meeting how many times did Lanham and Risager beat Cook Somersets top end rider ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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