screm Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Just reading the pages of this thread tells me that that is simply not true. You have a terrific little club and a promoter who has tried very hard to improve the product andattract knew supporters (in my view, more than anyone else in the country). Perhaps you lot would be better forgetting personal differences (whatever they maybe) and uniting behind your club. Pathetic squabbles over old issues aren't going to help in the slightest. Not sure why you have to highlight my name in bold,havent posted on this thread for days,but now my cage has been rattled here goes. Im in full agreement with Fromafar,it would be very difficult for any single supporter to bring to the club a new main sponsor,but I guess if you dont ask you dont get.Our owners both have businesses of their own,in different fields of course,and Im sure they will have put alot of effort into getting a sponsor through their own contacts,maybe thats the issue that they have to turn to their own supporters.Whatever,I hope a new sponsor can be found in the next week or two and we can take out place in next years PL. Edited November 4, 2012 by screm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) None of the large motor cycle companies are going to develop a speedway engine, nothing in it for them, far to specialised, there are no road versions of speedway bikes for the companies to profit from. As far as the Premier league is concerned, a standardised engine with a limited tuning potential would be a benefit, it would certainly cut the costs to riders. PL could be run on club racing lines, all riding similar equipment, with the best rider that wins. This would then allow the clubs to get the riders point money down to a sensible level, for instance No1 £60 per point, No 3&5 £50, No 2&4 £40 and No 6&7 £30. Some good ideas Remember when speedway was popular in the seventies? Why was that? When I started going in circa '72 most riders had other jobs and rode speedway as it was a way of earning 'a months money in one night'.. They did this using in the main standard machinery, very few but the 'top lads' had 'special kit', this meant that 90 percent of the riders in the leagues were on a similar level of equipment which also meant a lot fewer strung out races, however it also meant their pay more than covered their cost expenses, everyone won.... The promoters also didnt have to pay tens of thousands in air fares and hotel bills for foreign riders and mechanics... Maybe going back a couple of steps to what worked before 100's of journeymen foreign riders came over and thousands got paid to 'supertuners' will give the sport the chance to 'start again' and not make the same mistakes ? Edited November 4, 2012 by mikebv 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Not sure why you have to highlight my name in bold,havent posted on this thread for days,but now my cage has been rattled here goes. Because having read your posts on here for some considerable time (particularly about Berwick) I know that to suggest you are not a Berwick supporter is complete and total nonsense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henka Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 No not really, because I have my reasons for not attending, but I am prepared to invest in a season ticket for next year to offer my support (despite not being able to attend on a regular basis) that's my choice, and my reason being is I back the current promotion, and speedway in Berwick. Not being able to attend regularly due to circumstance, doesn't mean I dont want to see meetings (and the club suceed) another opertunity to promote offers in conjuncition with DVDs, for a win/win? I appreciate I differ from others, like you. I do "back the club" in the way I can (irespective of owner, be it Wait, Hepburn, Hope or Anderson) and will do my bit to see it succeed. My suggestion to you would be this, if you have nothing better to say, say nothing, and you rarely have anything better to contribute, so don't. My suggestions aren't for my own intrest, they are to see Berwick Speedway succeed for your DRK, scoobies, Warm & Cosy, Goldmembers, Penchevs,mythmans, chequredflag B4E, B4L,falkirikbandit, tweedcider, Neil (and a member of track staff who wrote the Last Lough and I wish for the life of me I could mind what he posted as ), spittalbandit and plenty others( many of whom I have had my differences and disagreements with) BUT, decent people who give a sh*t and deserve a club to support, that, as much a the promotion, is reason for adding possibly positive contributions to this thread. I hold my hands up and admit I argue with people over Berwick, the reason being, is because, they, like me, give a sh*t. That track staff member would be me WJM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedef27 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 As a drunken thought why dont promotions instead of knocking say £5 off knock only £3 off and the other £2 go in to a pot. Eg.550 people turn up for the meeting and everyone on entry gets a raffleticket.50 of 550 are season ticketholders who also receive a raffleticket on entry (they are entitled as a Thank you for their loyalty in paying in advance).Winner of HT15 draws a ticket/s and person/s go home very happy with share of £1000. You could increase the pot of the £1000 (500 paying on the night ) if a rider wants to take a chance on increasing his nights income or the riders mechanic wants to improve on his free entry to the stadium with a new free tool kit they should be given the chance as much as anyone else but they pay £2 for a raffleticket. By less reduction of entry you do not devalue a seasonticket so much and if a ticketholder were to win they could possibly not only redeem the money for this seasons ticket but pay for next seasons as well.A non season ticketholder could win and buy a seasonticket for the next season and the club would gain the winnings back. Now if that helps any promotion or gives any promotion an idea to tinker with........... maybe you can help me by telling me where i,ve put my alcohol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 That track staff member would be me WJM Thanks for saying it, couldn't mind at all (my bad) good guy, and a man worth listening too and debating with (my bad for taking it to far) should give your thoughts man, your opinions are always spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Dunno how many times I gotta say it! But speedway needs to move with the times!! Agree??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Get someone younger on the promotion - that's a good start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Get someone younger on the promotion - that's a good start! George Hepburn and Ryan Anderson, maybe? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 In my opinion they aren't young!!! I have no idea how old they are but would say that their views and ideas would not be as on trend as a 20 year old for instance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 In my opinion they aren't young!!! I have no idea how old they are but would say that their views and ideas would not be as on trend as a 20 year old for instance! They are about and around the same age as most promoters and younger than most,while its perfectly true to say that Ryan Anderson is a club promoter I was unaware that Mr Hepburn was now on the promotion to,maybe cresent girl is making a club announcement on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Perhaps speedways decline can be pinpointed to the very fact that no young blood promotes the sport! They may be younger than many promoters, however not young enough to understand what teens/young adults enjoy. It's only my opinion so nobody freak out !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Perhaps speedways decline can be pinpointed to the very fact that no young blood promotes the sport! They may be younger than many promoters, however not young enough to understand what teens/young adults enjoy. It's only my opinion so nobody freak out !!! No freaking out here,though you can be sure those posts will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 They are about and around the same age as most promoters and younger than most,while its perfectly true to say that Ryan Anderson is a club promoter I was unaware that Mr Hepburn was now on the promotion to,maybe cresent girl is making a club announcement on here. According to club programme he is a Director and I would have to say given it appears Berwick Speedway is a Company the Directors are the folks in charge, John Anderson, George Hepburn and George Fairgrieve or am I wrong?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Perhaps speedways decline can be pinpointed to the very fact that no young blood promotes the sport! They may be younger than many promoters, however not young enough to understand what teens/young adults enjoy. It's only my opinion so nobody freak out !!! Speedway needs more of they Nick Mallet types Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyfivetoes Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Speedway needs more of they Nick Mallet types Yeah, drugged-up twenty-somethings! Bring 'em on! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Perhaps speedways decline can be pinpointed to the very fact that no young blood promotes the sport! They may be younger than many promoters, however not young enough to understand what teens/young adults enjoy. It's only my opinion so nobody freak out !!! That's maybe a valid point, maybe not, here is the place for debate though. I'm not a youngster, but I'm open to listening to what teens and young adults would like to see from speedway. Before any of the usual suspects start, this is a genuine question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I'm prepared for the narrow minded, small town backlash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elesmere Gunner Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Speedway needs more of they Nick Mallet types I will take that with a pinch of salt!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I'm prepared for the narrow minded, small town backlash Just ignore them, you made a valid point, I admit I'm not in touch with what teens and young adult look for and I'm keen to find out. Please share it with us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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