Robinh88 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Hard lines for yesterday boyz if no for the injuries we would be in the play offs but another good season especialy with the 4tt cup Mon the Mighties!!!!! Is that a serious comment? We were 2nd bottom before all the injuries, its a joke that people use the injuries as an excuse for this season, the team was not good enough from the start, thats the top and bottom of it it. The fours was brilliant, and just proved what a good top 4 we had, that was it, the other 3 werent up to it, with the exception of Edberg at times who could only really score at home, nothing away. Great comments as usual by the lads, signing duff riders (which we did) at key times, messing up the averages, this has happened before. Aye we missed Kozza high fiving the adoring Berwick public but he's wasn't Ricky's or Nick Morris's class and Seb Alden is about as reliable when it matters as Chris Harris. I'm not even going to bother with Barnfield but as usual Berwick's finest making there excuses because there team FAILED on track as a 7 man team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Wish people would stop including Smith and Barnfield as excuses .Clearly the replacements were no worse.we got conned by the German and that started the troubled season regarding team strength. Season is over now lets move on.Ricky was Bandit of the year IMO and he was Kozza's replacement !!! Injuries played their part in Berwicks poor PL position,no doubt that but its utter rubbish to say they were the only reason,Im afraid the table doesnt lie,Berwick finished where they deserved to finish,as did every other club.Take Newcastle they were hit by injuries,losing their biggest scorer at the start of the season,yet finished top of the league. Kozza Smith was lost before a wheel had been turned,Ashworth replaced him and IMO we were stronger for it,no dis-respect to Smith.Hertrich left the club as did Sitera,their replacements were Tomicek and King,and Im afraid they just were not up to it,Tomicek was fine as a reserve but struggled when at no2,while King struggled virtually every meeting. Also our away form wasnt good enough,the inability to claim points away from Shielfield meant that we needed to get more full point victories at home,and we didnt. For all that there were bright spots,Robin Aspegren for one,I hope Berwick will do all they can to get him for next season,no doubt there will be competition for his signature but Im sure he was happy with so thats at least a start.Nicki Barrett is another who came in and did reasonably well,especially at reserve,add those two to Ashworth and Alden and you have a good start to next years team. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLP Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Mon the Mighties!!!!! Great comments as usual by the lads, signing duff riders (which we did) at key times, messing up the averages, this has happened before. Aye we missed Kozza high fiving the adoring Berwick public but he's wasn't Ricky's or Nick Morris's class and Seb Alden is about as reliable when it matters as Chris Harris. I'm not even going to bother with Barnfield but as usual Berwick's finest making there excuses because there team FAILED on track as a 7 man team. More dribble why not have a shot a beeing manager look at all the hurt riders we lost nearly all our team this season and still won a big cup.The promotion gave us all we ask for we wanted new riders and we got them Realy cant wait for friday I hope we get some good news for next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Injuries played their part in Berwicks poor PL position,no doubt that but its utter rubbish to say they were the only reason,Im afraid the table doesnt lie,Berwick finished where they deserved to finish,as did every other club.Take Newcastle they were hit by injuries,losing their biggest scorer at the start of the season,yet finished top of the league. Kozza Smith was lost before a wheel had been turned,Ashworth replaced him and IMO we were stronger for it,no dis-respect to Smith.Hertrich left the club as did Sitera,their replacements were Tomicek and King,and Im afraid they just were not up to it,Tomicek was fine as a reserve but struggled when at no2,while King struggled virtually every meeting. Also our away form wasnt good enough,the inability to claim points away from Shielfield meant that we needed to get more full point victories at home,and we didnt. For all that there were bright spots,Robin Aspegren for one,I hope Berwick will do all they can to get him for next season,no doubt there will be competition for his signature but Im sure he was happy with so thats at least a start.Nicki Barrett is another who came in and did reasonably well,especially at reserve,add those two to Ashworth and Alden and you have a good start to next years team. Some good points made. Mind you no matter what you say there are a couple of regular posters on this Berwick section who would be delighted to see Berwick fall flat on their face!For next season, who knows? Maybe only 9 or 10 teams and if that is so make it league only with 2 home and 2 away against all teams. If you want a play off make it like Elite League with top four in semi then final. If you want a consolation cup make it next four. Other major concern is lack of good British talent. Many of the leading lads in Academy League have been used late season by clubs and the gulf is there mainly because they are pitched in for only 1 or 2 matches. Is it time to bring back the rule where Premier clubs must include a 3 point rider (British) at reserve in declared line up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Some good points made. Mind you no matter what you say there are a couple of regular posters on this Berwick section who would be delighted to see Berwick fall flat on their face! For next season, who knows? Maybe only 9 or 10 teams and if that is so make it league only with 2 home and 2 away against all teams. If you want a play off make it like Elite League with top four in semi then final. If you want a consolation cup make it next four. Other major concern is lack of good British talent. Many of the leading lads in Academy League have been used late season by clubs and the gulf is there mainly because they are pitched in for only 1 or 2 matches. Is it time to bring back the rule where Premier clubs must include a 3 point rider (British) at reserve in declared line up? I agree with the British rider included. Both Sweden and Poland have this rule and its not really a surprise they actually produce young exciting riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I agree with the British rider included. Both Sweden and Poland have this rule and its not really a surprise they actually produce young exciting riders. Yes you are spot on. Future of Team GB looks bleak, with little talent emerging. Denmark have a thriving youth set up from 80cc upwards and you only need to look at the talent emerging from that country aka World Team Cup, with likes of M. Jepsen Jensen, M Bach Jensen, in Elite and a host of promising talent coming via Premier and that's not to mention riders who are not racing in GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Yes you are spot on. Future of Team GB looks bleak, with little talent emerging. Denmark have a thriving youth set up from 80cc upwards and you only need to look at the talent emerging from that country aka World Team Cup, with likes of M. Jepsen Jensen, M Bach Jensen, in Elite and a host of promising talent coming via Premier and that's not to mention rid ers who are not racing in GB. Britain only has itself to blame ,we started a National /Developement league then just ran it into the ground by letting a lot of Pl riders who could not make the grade drop down instead of concentrating on developing youth.I and dont think alot of them came cheap in the context that the league was meant to be and a means of making a living out of the sport at that level.I am not saying they made mega bucks but IMO they took much needed money out of the clubs. Buxton is a fine example of how the league should have been run and developed. Edited October 31, 2012 by Fromafar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Britain only has itself to blame ,we started a National /Developement league then just ran it into the ground by letting a lot of Pl riders who could not make the grade drop down instead of concentrating on developing youth.I and dont think alot of them came cheap in the context that the league was meant to be and a means of making a living out of the sport at that level.I am not saying they made mega bucks but IMO they took much needed money out of the clubs. Buxton is a fine example of how the league should have been run and deleloped. Yes and honestly in the future, maybe not 2013, I see a Premier League/National League merger of sorts with even a watered down Elite League for costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 More dribble why not have a shot a beeing manager look at all the hurt riders we lost nearly all our team this season and still won a big cup.The promotion gave us all we ask for we wanted new riders and we got them Realy cant wait for friday I hope we get some good news for next year baaaaaaaaaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyfivetoes Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'm sorry to have to observe that if Berwick do survive, and the promotion/management get just reward for all their improvements, it will be in spite of (rather than because of) the wishes of at least two of their "Supporters" on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'm sorry to have to observe that if Berwick do survive, and the promotion/management get just reward for all their improvements, it will be in spite of (rather than because of) the wishes of at least two of their "Supporters" on here. Give us a clue Fred? I follow the Berwick Forum a lot and I bet my two are same as your two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'm sorry to have to observe that if Berwick do survive, and the promotion/management get just reward for all their improvements, it will be in spite of (rather than because of) the wishes of at least two of their "Supporters" on here. Get a grip and stop sucking up, your as bad as Edward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Give us a clue Fred? I follow the Berwick Forum a lot and I bet my two are same as your two? Still waiting on your clue, by way is it just 2? You should try Coventry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'm sorry to have to observe that if Berwick do survive, and the promotion/management get just reward for all their improvements, it will be in spite of (rather than because of) the wishes of at least two of their "Supporters" on here. There is no (if) - they will run the BSPA would not give two high profiles meeting to a club who would potentially fold. Thats like giving Porstmouth FC the FA and the Carling Cup Final to hostor whatever it is called these days I hope you are fed up of reading certain posts, because the feeling is mutual about the cringeworthy brownosing from those who stand in the executive terracing. Or alternatively just start making cowardly threats to other Berwick fans via private message. Up to you, but I'll stick to Speedway Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Or alternatively just start making cowardly threats to other Berwick fans via private message. Up to you, but I'll stick to Speedway Cheers spill the beans then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLP Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I'm sorry to have to observe that if Berwick do survive, and the promotion/management get just reward for all their improvements, it will be in spite of (rather than because of) the wishes of at least two of their "Supporters" on here. Well said my pal dont worry we can do with out those 2 Im hoping for a announcement at the end of year disco cant wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 There is no (if) - they will run the BSPA would not give two high profiles meeting to a club who would potentially fold. Thats like giving Porstmouth FC the FA and the Carling Cup Final to hostor whatever it is called these days I hope you are fed up of reading certain posts, because the feeling is mutual about the cringeworthy brownosing from those who stand in the executive terracing. Or alternatively just start making cowardly threats to other Berwick fans via private message. Up to you, but I'll stick to Speedway Cheers Word on streets our way is they may opt for third tier if they run. That way top flight meetings can still go ahead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Word on streets our way is they may opt for third tier if they run. That way top flight meetings can still go ahead? Hope not PL for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairplay1 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 There is no (if) - they will run the BSPA would not give two high profiles meeting to a club who would potentially fold. Thats like giving Porstmouth FC the FA and the Carling Cup Final to hostor whatever it is called these days I hope you are fed up of reading certain posts, because the feeling is mutual about the cringeworthy brownosing from those who stand in the executive terracing. Or alternatively just start making cowardly threats to other Berwick fans via private message. Up to you, but I'll stick to Speedway Cheers I can assure you there is most definately an IF. Berwick have been awarded these meetings in the hope that things can be sorted in time for next season if not then the meetings will be switched to another track, there is no crying wolf here... This is FACT not speculation like your post and people really need to wake up to this fact because when its gone its gone... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I can assure you there is most definately an IF. Berwick have been awarded these meetings in the hope that things can be sorted in time for next season if not then the meetings will be switched to another track, there is no crying wolf here... This is FACT not speculation like your post and people really need to wake up to this fact because when its gone its gone... Good post! C'mon folks, the club DOES need backing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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