startline sid Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Oh dear. He's either a liar, or is losing his marbles... He also stated that all kids go free... I'm sure it says kids under 5 go free at the entrance gates, the rest pay a fiver, or has that changed? My response has been emailed to the Mercury this evening. thought it was kids 11 and under were free this year (may be wrong) - still should never have used your name in the Mercury letter though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 thought it was kids 11 and under were free this year (may be wrong) - still should never have used your name in the Mercury letter though Even so Sid, 12 to 15 year olds are still schoolchildren, so not earning. For him to say all kids are free is factually incorrect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startline sid Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Even so Sid, 12 to 15 year olds are still schoolchildren, so not earning. For him to say all kids are free is factually incorrect. fully agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythman666 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Can someone help me out please...I am doing a coloumn for the Berwick speedway programme and i need the following information with regards to Rye House Speedway, Admission Price for adults, kids etc. Programme price Cost of parking Rough directions to the track. If a Rye fan could PM me these that would be most helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC! Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 My response has been emailed to the Mercury this evening. Did it contain the phrase 'stick it up his poop chute' like your previous post?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Did it contain the phrase 'stick it up his poop chute' like your previous post?! Do you reckon they'd print that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC! Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Do you reckon they'd print that? Be a better read than normal if they did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Do you reckon they'd print that? Hey Chris, does uncle Len know who your potential inlaws are, he's a very brave man in my opinion. It is odd how some so called businessmen cannot take critisism. A good businessman should be able to discern any form of critisism, and take it on the chin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Even so Sid, 12 to 15 year olds are still schoolchildren, so not earning. For him to say all kids are free is factually incorrect. how many people you know that could turn up with 12-15 year olds in tow and a copy of the article and demand free entry? Make sure the local rags photographer is there too, I'd love to see the look on the face! I cant say I am surprised at Mr Silvers antics - disgusted but not surprised. hope they give you the right of reply - would be interested to see it even if just too see the phrase poop shute in general print lol (yeah I know you are joking there) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hey Chris, does uncle Len know who your potential inlaws are, he's a very brave man in my opinion. It is odd how some so called businessmen cannot take critisism. A good businessman should be able to discern any form of critisism, and take it on the chin. . Mainly because most of the criticism is unfair. Yes he has made many mistakes far too many for someone of his experience but that said how can you take critical opinions from someone who doesn't actually attend meetings (Chris) As far as mentioning names in the press what is wrong with that? If Silver is mentioned by name so it should follow that by becoming involved then anyone with input can be named too, fact of life Far as i am concerned he got the admission costs wrong and should abandon the rubbish programme those are my only gripes with him. The 2012 team was a decent team, no league winners but certainly good enough to make the top six then anything can happen. No way could he foresee the many injuries he had nor the retirement of Frampton. He replaced the injured Neath with arguably a better rider whose meetings for us has been limited. In Garrity and Lykke he has two excellent kids ready for next year but i see no praise for that The track which has been the subject of many justified complaints is now devoid of dust and has produced some decent racing. He continues to have double header PL/NL meetings for no increase in admission, the three quid programme is optional. We nearly always have a second half and have now got some good kids in the NL team. Several points raised still seem to be about what happened in 2011 where Silver can't be held responsible for what happened to Boxall no way in my opinion can he be slated for doing the decent thing and bringing Boxall back when fit. everyone knew that Doyle was a temporary measure and fair play that he honoured his agreements with riders who were the starting team. Given the amount of stick he got from so called supporters i know if i were him I would have told people if they dont want to go dont. Thats all he said but people sulk, thats it no more than that. Most Football supporters dont like their clubs owners but that doesnt mean they sulk and dont go. As far as walking out on Rye he sold up when he wanted to for what ever the reason he was entitled to do so and quite clearly without his involvement today there would be no speedway. Perhaps thats what some of the Rye House supporters want, perhaps then they will move on to moaning about something else to occupy their time. He seems a very loyal bloke to me for several reasons but he has riders riding for him who remain loyal as they know he will support them when things go wrong and he pays them on time, he obviously took the flack for the Nelson Visa problems which it is now clear that was out of his hands and he was trying to protect the rider. But it is the few areas that he gets wrong that brings so much criticism which which i believe is unfair. As for saturday a loss by ten or more maybe but that will be wiped out on sunday i think 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 . Mainly because most of the criticism is unfair. Yes he has made many mistakes far too many for someone of his experience but that said how can you take critical opinions from someone who doesn't actually attend meetings (Chris) As far as mentioning names in the press what is wrong with that? If Silver is mentioned by name so it should follow that by becoming involved then anyone with input can be named too, fact of life Far as i am concerned he got the admission costs wrong and should abandon the rubbish programme those are my only gripes with him. <snipped> Westhamboy, just out of interest would you now feel it was acceptable for Mr Silver - who has chosen to be in what is regarded a 'public' position - now puts into print an article in the newspaper slating you personally for your comments about getting the admission costs wrong and the standard of the programme and in doing so gives your full name? Is that justified? Would you not feel rather annoyed by it? other people are making the same observations but as a customer you are singled out and named - thats what happened with Shadders and surely thats the issue whether you agree with his point of view or not. When you go through the turnstyles for any sport you are not giving those who run the clubs carte blanche to name and verbally chastise you in public. When you take the reigns at any such club, or put yourself into a position of authority, directorship etc, you are putting yourself on a pedastal to be shot at, its the nature of the beast and you know that in advance and must deal with professionally. Imo Mr Silver most certainly didn't 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Westhamboy, just out of interest would you now feel it was acceptable for Mr Silver - who has chosen to be in what is regarded a 'public' position - now puts into print an article in the newspaper slating you personally for your comments about getting the admission costs wrong and the standard of the programme and in doing so gives your full name? Is that justified? Would you not feel rather annoyed by it? other people are making the same observations but as a customer you are singled out and named - thats what happened with Shadders and surely thats the issue whether you agree with his point of view or not. When you go through the turnstyles for any sport you are not giving those who run the clubs carte blanche to name and verbally chastise you in public. When you take the reigns at any such club, or put yourself into a position of authority, directorship etc, you are putting yourself on a pedastal to be shot at, its the nature of the beast and you know that in advance and must deal with professionally. Imo Mr Silver most certainly didn't Harry Ward my name there for all to see, yes it has happened to me when i was critical of a far larger business than Rye House Speedway and it was a National rag, did it worry me no, why? Because i was convinced i was right. If you don't want what comes with having an opinion then don't comment. Simple i would have thought? Shadders is a big boy and i'm sure he can look after himself but once you comment in a forum or twitter or indeed facebook where shadders is registered with a face and real name you leave yourself wide open. You say he put silver himself on a pedestal and can be shot at, fair enough but dont distort the facts and if you had the remotest of knowledge about Rye House Speedway you would understand that for everything he has done wrong he does twice as many things right, well thats my opinion as a Rye House supporter since 1976. I will be critical when i feel the need but not for the sake of it. I hope that covers your observations or question Lioness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Shadders is a big boy and i'm sure he can look after himself but once you comment in a forum or twitter or indeed facebook where shadders is registered with a face and real name you leave yourself wide open. Can't disagree with you. I've never hidden who I am and have made many friends at speedway tracks up and down the country. Like you said, this has a downside as you have to be pretty carefull. Len Silver hasn't been fond of me for a while, his sarky comments to me at Berwick this year proved that, but to single me out in the Mercury was pretty low. To call me a constant critic was unfounded too. Rye House isn't what you'd call a friendly club. No supporters club is allowed and there is a definite "them and us" feeling about the place. I make no apogies for comparing Rye House with Berwick, where the promotier, John Anderson, mixes with the away fans on their travels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I dont expect Mr Wenger is top of your liking list either at the moment Shadders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Nelson Visa great name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Harry Ward my name there for all to see, yes it has happened to me when i was critical of a far larger business than Rye House Speedway and it was a National rag, did it worry me no, why? Because i was convinced i was right. If you don't want what comes with having an opinion then don't comment. Simple i would have thought? Shadders is a big boy and i'm sure he can look after himself but once you comment in a forum or twitter or indeed facebook where shadders is registered with a face and real name you leave yourself wide open. You say he put silver himself on a pedestal and can be shot at, fair enough but dont distort the facts and if you had the remotest of knowledge about Rye House Speedway you would understand that for everything he has done wrong he does twice as many things right, well thats my opinion as a Rye House supporter since 1976. I will be critical when i feel the need but not for the sake of it. I hope that covers your observations or question Lioness Thanks for the reply which, despite your tone, my observations were just that - personal observations on a situation. incidentally I meant that Silver chose to put himself on a pedastal not that Shadders did it! We disagree on what is acceptable from a public persona in relation to supporters/paying customers but thats life. As for why I need to have the remotest knowledge of Rye House speedway to make a general observation on public relations (or lack of it) or where I supposedly distorted the facts, well that shall remain a mystery. I too will be critical when I feel the need, I feel his actions are wrong and I will (and have) say/said so. In doing so I assure you I am not 'looking after shadders' as you seem to have deflected the meaning of my post to imply. I am 100% sure he is more than capable of standing up for himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) I dont expect Mr Wenger is top of your liking list either at the moment Shadders? The blokes a fraud. Inherited a great defence in 1998 and had the pick of the best ever French squad. Players like Henry, Viera, Petit, Pires all fell in his lap, not forgetting one of the worlds best ever footballers, Dennis Bergkamp, who was signed by Bruce Rioch. No trophy since 2005 and not looking like winning anything next year. I've just heard he's on £145K a week! That is astounding. Nelson Visa great name Vivas? Edited October 25, 2012 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockney Rebel Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Do you reckon Westhamboy66 and indeed Uncle Len himself are getting the Chrises mixed up, I know "Shadders Chris" has had a few complaints but is nonetheless a Rye regular whereas the other Chris who is a perpetual doom and gloom merchant very rarely attends anyway. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Thi post should be re-named Shadders V Silver. There is certainly no connection to Rye v Berwick that I can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Thi post should be re-named Shadders V Silver. There is certainly no connection to Rye v Berwick that I can see do you mean Thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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