lucifer sam Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) If Sam has agreed to guest for Scunny then I have to say I`m disappointed in him. I know we released him and he has to earn a living, but it sort of feels like he`s biting the hand that`s been feeding him. I`m sure it would not have been the end of the world for him if he had said no. if he now has a good couple of meetings and the Rebels lose, I feel there may a touch of bitterness towards him for taking the booking. It`s probably me being a bit old fashioned, but I suppose that`s the way speedway works. Hope the weather holds and the Rebels pull it off. I see your point to an certain extent, but then again, you did release him. Tero Aarnio rode his bits off against Scunny in the Play-Off matches against us, to demonstrate we'd done the wrong thing in letting him go. Maybe Sam wants to prove the same point. Maybe he wants to score big time over the course of the final, to make the Somerset management realise that he's indispensible in 2013? Or maybe he just likes the idea of two more meetings to earn money from. All the best Rob Edited October 22, 2012 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 How is it Scunthorpe's fault though? We didn't have anything to do with the Edinburgh v Workington meeting, or the subsequent decision taken. Everyone was on tenterhooks until mid-morning on Saturday. Scunthorpe finished their play-off matches in good time on Sunday, October 7th. We couldn't do any more than that. It meant doing 3 meetings in 3 days, which is not ideal, but at this stage of the season, you have to accept every date you're given; so Rob and Richard accepted the October 5th date at Armadale when offered, even though we were already riding Workington on the 6th and 7th. Why there was a match scheduled to take place on the 19th in the first place is beyond me - it was much too late. Until Edinburgh v Scunny was rained off on Sept 28th, the October 5th date was free - I'm perplexed why the Edinburgh v Workington match had already not been confirmed on this date. Maybe you should ask Keith Denham why you weren't already there on the 5th? Maybe Workington didn't accept every date they were given, perhaps? In the meantime, this thread is about the final. I'm sorry you didn't get your 100/1 shot to win at Edinburgh, but that's life - the weather has messed things up in other competitions as well this season. I wish Workington Speedway the best under the new promotion - Keith Denham did everything he could but it just didn't work out for him. I'm sorry your team didn't win any of the major team competitions in 2012 (although the PL Paris is a very nice consolation and was very much deserved), better luck next year. Time to move on. All the best Rob no one is blaming Scunny?? But they certainly didn't win their group on merit, they won it by default as they rode more meetings than the others and Worky were denied the chance to get through....that's not hard to understand surely?? As for it being a 100/1 chance, given Summers in for Lawson and Tommy Fenwick at reserve....I'd say it was an even money shot.Nevermind, if both finals are washed out Scunny can be champs as they finished both 2nd and are alphabetically above Somerset...surely what's meant to be a professional sport can do what is required to ensure the silverware is handed out fairly to all teams....the weather has been shocking and hasn't helped, but it's been shocking all season so the powers that be should have planned for this farce happening. To race all season in a league, have a chance of winning and then have to give it up is ridiculous...the sport is dying on its arse, and this is just another example of why IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 no one is blaming Scunny?? But they certainly didn't win their group on merit, they won it by default as they rode more meetings than the others and Worky were denied the chance to get through....that's not hard to understand surely?? As for it being a 100/1 chance, given Summers in for Lawson and Tommy Fenwick at reserve....I'd say it was an even money shot. Nevermind, if both finals are washed out Scunny can be champs as they finished both 2nd and are alphabetically above Somerset...surely what's meant to be a professional sport can do what is required to ensure the silverware is handed out fairly to all teams....the weather has been shocking and hasn't helped, but it's been shocking all season so the powers that be should have planned for this farce happening. To race all season in a league, have a chance of winning and then have to give it up is ridiculous...the sport is dying on its arse, and this is just another example of why IMO. At last someone who isn't a Comets fan understands why we find it difficult to swallow , had the shoe been on the other foot and Workington went through ,be plenty of Scunny fans on here . Its a farce whoever the teams would have been but unfortunately this time Workington were at the receiving end , twice !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Scunny fans you can be sure Masters will be a lot better than he was when he rode for Somerset !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blindman Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I have a feeling that with Sam in the side Scunny will take the aggregate win, I hope I'm wrong though. Sam still has to earn a living so riding against the Rebels shouldn't cause any problems surely. Best of luck to both sides and hopefully all riders will have safe meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremierRebel Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Sam made I clear how he feels. I quote "I am going to haunt that club". Could we stick to his word! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Sam made I clear how he feels. I quote "I am going to haunt that club". Could we stick to his word! If he said that i am bitterly dissapointed. At the end of the day he was going to miss too many meetings towards the end of the season. The promoter must think of the club rather than one rider. That must be obvious to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 no one is blaming Scunny?? But they certainly didn't win their group on merit, they won it by default as they rode more meetings than the others and Worky were denied the chance to get through....that's not hard to understand surely?? As for it being a 100/1 chance, given Summers in for Lawson and Tommy Fenwick at reserve....I'd say it was an even money shot. Nevermind, if both finals are washed out Scunny can be champs as they finished both 2nd and are alphabetically above Somerset...surely what's meant to be a professional sport can do what is required to ensure the silverware is handed out fairly to all teams....the weather has been shocking and hasn't helped, but it's been shocking all season so the powers that be should have planned for this farce happening. To race all season in a league, have a chance of winning and then have to give it up is ridiculous...the sport is dying on its arse, and this is just another example of why IMO. what and you think putting a ringer in for lawson that was suposed to be injured was right when we all knew he wasnt and it was proved the next night by him riding at workington What would have happened if workington had won with there ringer in ,you not think justice has been done based on that fact only ,because any right minded person would 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 what and you think putting a ringer in for lawson that was suposed to be injured was right when we all knew he wasnt and it was proved the next night by him riding at workington What would have happened if workington had won with there ringer in ,you not think justice has been done based on that fact only ,because any right minded person would can you prove that?? Because I can't....that's got nothing to do with not completing the season though really....has it?? But if true I agree it's shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 what and you think putting a ringer in for lawson that was suposed to be injured was right when we all knew he wasnt and it was proved the next night by him riding at workington What would have happened if workington had won with there ringer in ,you not think justice has been done based on that fact only ,because any right minded person would Thats not to mention that Edinburgh, already out the reckoning were gonna field a weakened team...which in my opinion was somewhat disrepectful to Scunthorpe and the premier league in general. If they'd of still been in the mix they'd of been stronger for sure. Given the circumstances, Worky could of easily picked up the required win. I'm obviously happy to see Scunny placed in the final, albeit in controversial circumstances.. having convincingly overcome both Edinburgh and Workington in these play-offs there is a great degree of merit attached to their inclusion. Tough on Workington though, sympaphise with them...not an ideal finish a season. Timing of these play-offs need looking at for next season, can't have another farcical situation like this again. We know the weather isnt speedways best friend, particularly at this time of year, maybe next season they can aim to have the play-off situation sorted by the end of september....or scrap them altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 At last someone who isn't a Comets fan understands why we find it difficult to swallow , had the shoe been on the other foot and Workington went through ,be plenty of Scunny fans on here . Its a farce whoever the teams would have been but unfortunately this time Workington were at the receiving end , twice !! Hmmm the bitter Diamond's fan supports the even more bitter Comet fan, get over it we are in the final. If we win fine, if we don't we are still runners up whichever route you want to go, Mini League results or main standings. I for one have watched my team come bottom of the league on several occasions since 1975 ,so please, let us have our moment for once.We have enjoyed a cracking season ,with many handicaps, but we have all worked for each other,fans,riders and management, I will personally look back on this year's successes with some pride in my team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Hmmm the bitter Diamond's fan supports the even more bitter Comet fan, get over it we are in the final. If we win fine, if we don't we are still runners up whichever route you want to go, Mini League results or main standings. I for one have watched my team come bottom of the league on several occasions since 1975 ,so please, let us have our moment for once.We have enjoyed a cracking season ,with many handicaps, but we have all worked for each other,fans,riders and management, I will personally look back on this year's successes with some pride in my team. how am I bitter?? Because I don't think it was fair on Workington that's being bitter??.......id say the same if it were Scunny, Berwick, Ipswich or Iran !!! Edited October 22, 2012 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WTF1 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 how am I bitter?? Because I don't think it was fair on Workington that's being bitter??.......id say the same if it were Scunny, Berwick, Ipswich or Iran !!! Thought this thread was about Somerset v Scunthorpe play off final ,anything else give it a rest ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thought this thread was about Somerset v Scunthorpe play off final ,anything else give it a rest ffs. who are you like?? I'll post a reply if I want to....ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thats not to mention that Edinburgh, already out the reckoning were gonna field a weakened team...which in my opinion was somewhat disrepectful to Scunthorpe and the premier league in general. That's absolutely ridiculous. We needed a 3-pointer at no. 7 and gave it to a local boy. There was no-one available who could get a point. You can't seriously call that a weakened team. Against the usual Workington side there would not have been a problem. With Summers coming in at the last minute, it could have been tougher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikespear Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 rebels will not worry about sam. he made it so clear to us fans he did not have somerset at heart. if he feels he has axe to grind really we have as he did not even try at times. so it was decided he had to go. i say bring him on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelRebel Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Going on tonights performance, Poole would not only want Sam but need him on Friday if they actually want to win anything! Lindgren and Eklof were dismall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 That's absolutely ridiculous. We needed a 3-pointer at no. 7 and gave it to a local boy. There was no-one available who could get a point. You can't seriously call that a weakened team. Against the usual Workington side there would not have been a problem. With Summers coming in at the last minute, it could have been tougher. If the boot was on the other foot...sure you'd be saying same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Going on tonights performance, Poole would not only want Sam but need him on Friday if they actually want to win anything! Lindgren and Eklof were dismall! On Tonights Performance, Poole wont beat Peterborough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 On Tonights Performance, Poole wont beat Peterborough. No Sullivan,Jonasson,Sundstrom,Buczkowski They probably will but P'boro do have Michael Jepsen Jensen so they still have a good chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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