Glennylion Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Looking at averages, not sure how this will work with a Scandinavian or 2. The massive jump in the latest averages of MK and KD which sees MK as Number 1 just in front of KD means we have less to play with. Left it a too late on the averages front? Neilson ended with Plymouth at 4.41. Eklof ended last season on 6.24? Makinen was at 4.56 at Ipswich? Struggling with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astill lodge lion Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Scunthorpe race on Saturday, so Douglas would've been unavailable to us, so it's good Edberg is back. I know it's unlikely, but could we have Edberg & Nielsen at Reserve then name JS at 8 & use him if Edberg is not upto it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) Looking at averages, not sure how this will work with a Scandinavian or 2. The massive jump in the latest averages of MK and KD which sees MK as Number 1 just in front of KD means we have less to play with. Left it a too late on the averages front? Neilson ended with Plymouth at 4.41. Eklof ended last season on 6.24? Makinen was at 4.56 at Ipswich? Struggling with this i'm guessing they would need to make the change before September. I thought today was the cut off date for changes to have been made for this season and anything after today would need to be only a direct replacement for a injured rider and only then if dispensation is given. Scunthorpe race on Saturday, so Douglas would've been unavailable to us, so it's good Edberg is back. I know it's unlikely, but could we have Edberg & Nielsen at Reserve then name JS at 8 & use him if Edberg is not upto it. We don't have the points to do that. we only have .73 to spare. Simon Nielsen (i'm guessing that is the Nielsen you are talking about) is 1.44 above Sargeant (Stefan is 1.90 above). Edited August 28, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 i'm guessing they would need to make the change before September. I thought today was the cut off date for changes to have been made for this season and anything after today would need to be only a direct replacement for a injured rider if dispensation is given. Good call. New averages come into effect on Sunday. Eklof and Makinen/Neilson fits then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astill lodge lion Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) We don't have the points to do that. we only have .73 to spare. Simon Nielsen (i'm guessing that is the Nielsen you are talking about) is 1.44 above Sargeant (Stefan is 1.90 above). Ah, yes you're right. With the new averages out for 1/9 do you have to get any new team to fit within those averages (if it was submitted today)or as its not September yet they can fit within the current averages? Think the above from Glennylion answers my question. Edited August 28, 2013 by Astill lodge lion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Team was to be redeclared today the last changes permitted this season hence why Leicester and Somerset have made changes today . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Ah, yes you're right. With the new averages out for 1/9 do you have to get any new team to fit within those averages (if it was submitted today)or as its not September yet they can fit within the current averages? The changes that would had to be submitted to the BSPA Office for use after Friday, would have been on the basis of their current averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Everyone naming Jari Makinen. you all seem to forget that the poor lads leg is still in about 5 pieces being held together by metal rods so isn't going anywhere a speedway track anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 The changes that would had to be submitted to the BSPA Office for use after Friday, would have been on the basis of their current averages. so taking into account their currant averages and reading between the lines of other posts our new possible line up for sat could be lasse b 7.64 kevin d 7.06 magnus k 7.28 linus e 6.24 jan g 5.19 alex e 4.28 simon n 4.41 team total 42.10 well it fits if i have the averages right we will have to wait and see.feel a bit for young james and it seems nemo injury has forced an early end to his season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) Simon Nielsen was a Plymouth rider when Edberg got injured. It's only our last 4 meetings that he's been without a team and i think we've had Douglas in twice and Albin and Worral. I think his results may have been slightly better than latter duo but not as good as the former (especially at Redcar when Douglas' two wins arguably put us back in the play offs helping take the full 4 points of our rivals). You are a bit of a puzzle TMW.. most of your posts deplore the use of journeymen foreign riders taking the reserve places of good up and coming English riders and here you telling telling us that a young English prospect in his first year in the PL who has a few falls because he trying too hard but is averaging near 5 points a meeting isn't worthy of a spot at reserve but a second season foreign reserve who has always been admittedly steady but generally has looked slow is good for a place. No puzzle I do bang the Brit drum but.....I am also realistic about a team who needed every point due to Kake carrying an injury and Kev and Lasse's up and down performances the pressure was always going to be on the reserves therefore there was a need to have high scoring reserves. I think SN would have cut it eventually. The brits have a raw deal and need to be signed and stuck by. On the Stefan note.....He has ridden 2 seasons in the Danish league,3 seasons in the NL , 1 in the PL tells me that by now he should be staying on his bike my point being should we really be signing him as a replacement for anybody?. Edited August 29, 2013 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) Now official Leicester sign Linus Eklof & Simon Nielsen to replace Kauko Nieminen & James Sarjeant Discuss ??? Edited August 29, 2013 by lionking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Now official Leicester sign Linus Eklof & Simon Nielsen to replace Kauko Nieminen & James Sarjeant Discuss ??? That's intended to strengthen the team? If the management ever had the plot they've certainly lost it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Another collection on Saturday, for 3 more sets of kevlars then ?,, Should have bought a tractor , It would have lasted far longer and been of more benefit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) With KN riding this season at 6.8 and JS at 1.6 I think it would make us stronger. Last year we had a number at under 2 and we have in JS. The timing that JS was brought in and the circumstances were wrong. He needed to start a season not come in with 10 or so fixtures left with a need to hit the ground running to try and bolster the number 7 position. It made it very tough on him and it is no slight on him that he couldn't do it from the off which is what was needed for the team and what was needed to justify getting rid of Branford. He looked useful indeed but the late season pressures mean he couldn't be given the time required. Quite liked Eklof last year but presumed that the comments by the promotion about not all riders wanting it that were made at the start of the season centred around him as he never looked all that happy. Also the 2 of the 3 to be omitted under such circumstances were MK and Eklof and they are both in the team now. Must have all been Makinen then!!! All a bit late in the day. Hope Nemo's operation goes well and wish him a speedy recovery. Edited August 29, 2013 by Glennylion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Very tough on James, but these changes are far too late in the season. The Lions should never have let Lewis Blackbird go in the first place as they've never found a good enough replacement. Throughout the season there's been elementary mistakes made, fundamentally by the management, which has left the Leicester Lions short of the play-offs with only 2-meetings remaining (Edinburgh-home & Newcastle-away). In my opinion, they need a complete overhaul in the close season ready for 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Bad news for Leicester they sign 2 riders but looks like will still have R/R in the team because Kevin Doolan has broken his ribs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 My understanding is that Eklof could not return this year for a full season due to him already signing to ride in Sweden on Tuesdays and Thursdays which would have meant him being missing for all the Thurs away matches. This is tr same reason why other Tracks have not taken up the option of signing him. I do feel sorry for Sargeant but don't think the door is closed on a return to Leicester in the future as showed a lot of promise needs be a bit quicker out of the gate. Simon Nielsen returning is just a case of his average fitting and in hope that he can score points at Leicester to make reserve berth stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 My understanding is that Eklof could not return this year for a full season due to him already signing to ride in Sweden on Tuesdays and Thursdays which would have meant him being missing for all the Thurs away matches. Just the sort of rider commitment needed to stabilise the future of British speedway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Very tough on James, but these changes are far too late in the season. The Lions should never have let Lewis Blackbird go in the first place as they've never found a good enough replacement. Throughout the season there's been elementary mistakes made, fundamentally by the management, which has left the Leicester Lions short of the play-offs with only 2-meetings remaining (Edinburgh-home & Newcastle-away). In my opinion, they need a complete overhaul in the close season ready for 2014. Unfortuately, the route to the play offs blocked with the two meetings against Rye House. Yes we have carried JS and RB but we have been strong enough while AE was fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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