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As much as Magnus has had a good weekend at two tracks that i'm guessing were made for him (the Leicester track certainly was and he has a pretty good record at Glasgow) there now seems a lot of people calling for him to be retained. He hasn't looked great for over a year though and as nice a guy as he is i do hope it hasn't made us think twice about recalling Roynon for him. Roynon has averaged 9-9.50 a meeting for most of last year and is one of Englands hottest prospects one of the most exciting riders to watch as well.

 

IMO, 4 out the 5 from Nieminen, Doolan, Karlsson, Bjerre and Roynon and it has to be Magnus out every time on both form and the entertainment value they bring.

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It's a very difficult decision for the Leicester management to make with Magnus and Adam, They have 3 more league matches before Roynon has said he will be fit for, So guess they will look to see how Magnus goes in them matches and how Adam looks this week as hear he is practicing every day this week to try and get match fit and setups sorted.

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It's a very difficult decision for the Leicester management to make with Magnus and Adam,

 

I think Coventry may have the same problem as to who Adam replaces, not just Leicester. Robbo, Summers or the Pole whose name I can't spell.

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I think Coventry may have the same problem as to who Adam replaces, not just Leicester. Robbo, Summers or the Pole whose name I can't spell.

 

Wont be Szczepaniak as that would make 4 d/u riders so would be out of Summers, Robbo or Allen. Guess will have better idea over next couple of meetings

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Karlsson has been on fire this weekend, if he is replaced how long will it be until Roynon's next injury?

just been reading on facebook his mechanic or tuner has found a big problem with his engine which is now sorted,hence him being back on it.if they let him go they just might regret it.

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just been reading on facebook his mechanic or tuner has found a big problem with his engine which is now sorted,hence him being back on it.if they let him go they just might regret it.

 

Sounds good Neb. He was definately back on it on Saturday. It's the first time i've seen him in a long time where he hasnt appeared to be hanging on to his position in a race, for once he was actually looking pretty fast out front. It looks like he was just as fast at Glasgow and If that is the case that his problems have been mechanical then you may be right about us regretting it.

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just been reading on facebook his mechanic or tuner has found a big problem with his engine which is now sorted,hence him being back on it.if they let him go they just might regret it.

 

Adam Roynon was far from fit enough to start the season and is unlikely to be any different if he comes back. He will also be 2 months behind everyone else. I think it would be better for Leicester and safer for Adam to keep Magnus Karlsson until Adam can safely be relied upon to perform at the level required.

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Pasted this across from the Workington v Leicester thread -

 

The team was built around us starting the season with a 9.50-10 point man on a 7 point average. Losing him after 1 match and having to replace him with a true 7.00 rider has unfortunately mapped our season out (that and losing Lewis Kerr, a rider who common sense would say would have shared his reserve spot with Lewis Blackbird for all of 1 or 2 meetings before replacing Simon Nielsen). We are similar to Ipswich last year in that we have no-one to compete with the best the other teams have to offer. The only way out of mid table fizzle is to drop Graversen and one of the top four and use the 13 points we would have to replace them with a true No1 and someone that fits with what's left in the averages. Not sure anyone who could do the job and is available though although I think Edberg could hold his own in the main body of the team if need be. Lewis Bridger & James Sargeant for Karlsson & Graversen maybe but that would maybe leave us a bit vulnerable at reserve but maybe worth the gamble with how the season looks like working out? I suppose with that you would have two good young brits in and it would be nice to see Sargeant get the chance to kick on as he's looked close to making the step up all year without the opportunity to do it.

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Pasted this across from the Workington v Leicester thread -

 

The team was built around us starting the season with a 9.50-10 point man on a 7 point average. Losing him after 1 match and having to replace him with a true 7.00 rider has unfortunately mapped our season out (that and losing Lewis Kerr, a rider who common sense would say would have shared his reserve spot with Lewis Blackbird for all of 1 or 2 meetings before replacing Simon Nielsen). We are similar to Ipswich last year in that we have no-one to compete with the best the other teams have to offer. The only way out of mid table fizzle is to drop Graversen and one of the top four and use the 15 points we would have to replace them with a true No1 and someone that fits with what's left in the averages. Not sure anyone who could do the job and is available though although I think Edberg could hold his own in the main body of the team if need be. Lewis Bridger & James Sargeant for Karlsson & Graversen maybe but that would maybe leave us a bit vulnerable at reserve but maybe worth the gamble with how the season looks like working out? I suppose with that you would have two good young brits in and it would be nice to see Sargeant get the chance to kick on as he's looked close to making the step up all year without the opportunity to do it.

 

We need one solid reserve in case we get a situation like last night at Workington where Alex had to have seven rides with the problem that Magnus had.

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We need one solid reserve in case we get a situation like last night at Workington where Alex had to have seven rides with the problem that Magnus had.

 

I guess swapping nieminen and graversen out would allow a 9+ er and a 4 pointer but I think the issue is probably the lack of any decent replacements around the 4 point mark irrespective. As mentioned I think it probably needs a leap of faith at reserve if we were to make a change at the top now, especially now rye have signed up the one value rider below 5.5 that appeared to be available.

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It saddens me to hear that Leicester could be falling apart at the seams. Karlsson, who was scoring bucketloads in May, seems to be struggling with an injury that is restricting him badly - but the worry is, it seems to be dragging on for too long now. I'm sure that a fully fit Karlsson would be back to his high scoring - but when?? Nieminen looks like he is tailing-off badly at the "business end" of matches. Doolan does ok in fits and starts - doesn't seem to be predictable and too many of his points are in the "soft" heat 14. Bjerre is either brilliant or poor in terms of his overall match performance.

 

Reliable reports are that the Leicester promoter laid into the team after the loss at home to Somerset. Karlsson's struggles and Nieminen's problem werre key factors, and Somerset seemed exploit all of the inherent weaknesses in Leicester's team structure and laid them bare for all to see. I heard it said that Hemsley almost ripped off the gate to the pits as he stormed through it, so it doesn't take a lot of imagination to work out what happened next.

 

So where has this left the team manager's position? Bollockings are important to hand out, but at the right time, to the right people, and by the right person? Is Taylor not capable of doing that? Hemsley perhaps doesn't think he can - and if that's correct where does it leave things? Rossiter at Swindon dishes out effective bollockings becuase he's the team manager, and he can judge best when, how and to whom. When the promoter starts wading in, the team manager's position becomes untenable. The the team morale sinks, goodwill goes, and riders become disenchanted and lack motivation becuase their team manager is being undermined and they don't know where they stand. I don't know if that's what has happened at leicester, but it's a fair guess.

 

The riders' body language in and around the pits at BP on Saturday will tell you everything. You have got to keep all fingers crossed that Karlsson's injury problems get resolved, beciase that must be the key factor, and that the relationship with Hemsley is restored. If I were him, I'd apologise in person to the riders before the match, and allow (and expect) Taylor to carry out bollockings in his own way and choosing. If Hemsley wants to give bollockings, he should limit them to Taylor. Tinkering with the team wouldn't do much good, unless there is a cast-iron No.1 available to come in (and I don't mean Eddie Kennett).

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Edberg injury news is another nail in the Lions play-off hopes.

The other day I looked at the top 7 teams remaining fixtures & had the Lions finishing 7th. Everyone knows they need to pick up max points at home in the majority of the remaining home meetings & try and get a couple of away wins along the way. Think this just got a lot harder with Edberg out, especially as Karlsson is struggling with his injury & Doolan is not in the form he was a month or so ago.

 

Can't imagine what the impact would be to the promotion if we missed the play-offs.

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Doubt there will be an Elite League next season. Hopefully the G.P. riders will be ditched along with some of the dodgy foreigners and we can get back to some sort of normality riding every week.

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I meant it will affect the Leicester promotors financial situation with less (relevant) fixtures.

Can anyone provide an insight into the cost differencial of paying riders to form a team suitable for Elite League racing compared to one for Premier League? I ask because I see more exciting Premier League meetings than Elite League.

As I see it, the problem Leicester has is the scarciety of local Derbies to create some real long term excitement and anticipation which imust be the main reason for jumping into the Elite League - but at what cost?

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103.743/4 views with my view/post.. got to laff. it says the topic is HOT. i thinks its going cold. there are only so many times you can boil a kettle, then it goes DRY.

You seem remarkably and regularly interested in it, yet your posts always seem to be about stifling debate. I wonder why, what's your agenda?

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