Leicester Lions 2013

[flagrag]

Well as expected but in my mind that is not enough to turn things around and with another two PL meetings taking place next weekend time could run out for Lions push for playoffs.

Will be interesting to see how Alex goes heard mixed reports but is good to Hear he is a god gater

[Glennylion]

Will be interesting to see how Alex goes heard mixed reports but is good to Hear he is a god gater

 

Taking gating to a whole new level!! Bit early for divine intervention.

[bigeddiechek]

Alex is a good gater, and if he gets his confidence back will score heavily for you.

Good to see he has another team so quickly

[jenga]

nice to see you are weakening the lions team just in time for the visit of workington.

 

[foamfence]

So you sack two higher scoring reserves and keep Branford? Hmm yes! Watch out rest of the league :-)

[wandersome]

So you sack two higher scoring reserves and keep Branford? Hmm yes! Watch out rest of the league :-)

 

Maybe there are 1 or 2 more changes still to happen that Edberg's average suits.

[flagrag]

I am sure there will be more team changes soon to make top end stronger just sorting out the pieces of the jigsaw. In my mind these need to happen before the weekend with two matches that could well be lost on current form where as if make another change or two they could beat Workington and Glasgow

[neb]

I am sure there will be more team changes soon to make top end stronger just sorting out the pieces of the jigsaw. In my mind these need to happen before the weekend with two matches that could well be lost on current form where as if make another change or two they could beat Workington and Glasgow

so who in your mind are they going to change and who is available to change them with?

[GoldenGauntlet]

Hopefully Adam will be back soon and as much as I like Jan I think he could be replaced with Jacob Thorsell. He looked good at Leicester last year and has plenty of EL experience.

When you have four riders who have so far scored well below their starting average, why replace Jan who is one of only two Lions riders who have scored above their starting average? Is it a really nice wooden spoon that's given out at the end of the season or something?

[stevethelion]

Hopefully Adam will be back soon and as much as I like Jan I think he could be replaced with Jacob Thorsell. He looked good at Leicester last year and has plenty of EL experience.

I also like the look of Thorsell whenever i've seen him, & he's one who i would have liked to have seen at the beginning of the season, but unfortunately Wolves have there full quota of doubling up riders now, as you're only allowed 3 so that rules him out.

[wandersome]

I also like the look of Thorsell whenever i've seen him, & he's one who i would have liked to have seen at the beginning of the season, but unfortunately Wolves have there full quota of doubling up riders now, as you're only allowed 3 so that rules him out.

 

I agree. i also like Thorsell. We can't sign Birmingham, Coventry, Swindon, Kings Lynn or Wolves riders as all have 3 d/up or it seems Peterborough riders as they wont allow their riders to double up.. Poole's out because the available riders are all poles. Belle Vue's available riders are very busy continental riders which leaves Lakesides and Eastbournes riders. Out of riders currently riding here in the EL i only see maybe Bridger, Nilsson, Shields (and maybe Gizalutin) as available now if they aren't riding abroad much. Not sure any of those fit what we require, save for maybe Bridger if he could turn it around but that would mean no place for Roynon.

 

I suppose something along the lines of a Burmeister or Manzares, along with a returning Roynon may make a difference on our travels although i'd be wary of saying for who as i don't want to upset any more people than i already do!

Edited May 14, 2013 by volty

[GoldenGauntlet]

Personally I don't want to change anyone. I was only responding to that post of who to replace. I think Jan is great and I would hate it if he was replaced. The only reason I said Jan was because our away form has been poor and Jan is well below his ave. I did say previously that the rest of the team need to start performing to their potential.

All the riders have been better at home than away, and all have scored below their starting averages away, at least two by a bigger margin than Jan. Edberg hasn't scored well away from Berwick this season so that change doesn't seem to have strengthened the team.

 

Personally I think Lions' home form is just as much of a concern because if we keep dropping points at home we're not going to make the playoffs. If we lost Jan just to get a rider who's better away, I think we could end up losing home matches, because we're not convincing at the home at the moment.

[jenga]

manzares/burmeister.. not that good. but i am not one to tell the lions management how to weaken their team. get royno back in and you may have a chance at the weekend. alex is NOT the answer to your problems.

[jim the whipper]

I agree. i also like Thorsell. We can't sign Birmingham, Coventry, Swindon, Kings Lynn or Wolves riders as all have 3 d/up or it seems Peterborough riders as they wont allow their riders to double up.. Poole's out because the available riders are all poles. Belle Vue's available riders are very busy continental riders which leaves Lakesides and Eastbournes riders. Out of riders currently riding here in the EL i only see maybe Bridger, Nilsson, Shields (and maybe Gizalutin) as available now if they aren't riding abroad much. Not sure any of those fit what we require, save for maybe Bridger if he could turn it around but that would mean no place for Roynon.

 

I suppose something along the lines of a Burmeister or Manzares, along with a returning Roynon may make a difference on our travels although i'd be wary of saying for who as i don't want to upset any more people than i already do!

burmeister and manzares would carry a high assessed average that they would struggle to achieve

[Pinny]

Burmeister would be an appauling signing. Manzares would be the better option

 

What a shocking move to replace Nielsen, his scores at home at least have been quite solid so fail to see how replacing him with edberg whos confidence is shot to pieces will make them stronger?

 

Or perhaps edbergs old mans purchasing seven sets of kevlars for the lions?

[flagrag]

I Agree to drop Simon to be replaced with a rider who is at the same level and sometimes worse away scored seems very strange, This alone will not solve the problems or get the fans through the gates.

Is Edberg a bit of a rich boy then pinstripe with the comment about Kevlars ?

 

I think Leicester may be waiting on moves from other clubs before making more changes I think it may be Kauko and Magnus to go to be replaced with Roynon and another rider dropping from Elite league.

[jenga]

is your management full of newbies that dont know what they are doing. missed out on mitchell davey(off to monarchs)dropping kake and magnus is madness. dont think your manager could manage a sunday football club .atm.

[wandersome]

is your management full of newbies that dont know what they are doing. missed out on mitchell davey(off to monarchs)dropping kake and magnus is madness. dont think your manager could manage a sunday football club .atm.

 

are you under the impression that the BSF Leicester thread massive are managing Leicester?

 

burmeister and manzares would carry a high assessed average that they would struggle to achieve

 

i think you could be right. I'm only looking at options we might have (not great i admit). Wouldn't Burmeister have a 5.00 converted EL average. Would Manzares be more? i was thinking he would be a 5 but i guess he'd probably is more now you mention it.

 

I'd think Roynon back in for Karlsson when fit and then fingers crossed it works out for us in our spanking new kevlars! or something like that..

Edited May 14, 2013 by volty

[Lions12]

I've worked out Leicester's riders' averages so far this season (exc bonus points), Nieminen 6.86, Graversen 5.08, Bjerre 7.58, Doolan 6.87,Karlsson 6.87, Nielsen had averaged 3.76, Branford only had 2 meetings at 0.50; a bit too early to have a true reflection IMO. If you compare Nieminen's to all the other No.1's in the league he is ranked 11th ahead of Robson and Ostergaard. Fair to say how the season has started Nieminen has not ridden like a No.1. Now I'm not picking on him but it is one area where the team needs to improve significantly, the other being at area being at reserve where we are being outscored home and away regularly. Most strong teams this year have at least one strong reserve; Edinburgh have Tabaka, Ipswich Heeps, Newcastle Kerr and S Worrall, Redcar Dyer, Scunthorpe now Blackbird, and Morris seems to be finding form for Workington, it's these riders who perform way above their average home and away is what we need.

 

Graversen is very pleasing on the eye to some home supporters who obviously never go to away meetings as he regularly doesn't perform near to a 5 point average away, I believe we need a second string who performs away from home. I would say that on current form Nieminen should go due to not living up to the No.1 tag, although this seems highly unlikely with his testimonial next month, and Graversen, who is a thoroughly likeable guy (not my words) to many Leicester supporters, however I would prefer to have riders who perform on the track home and away rather than a nice guy.

 

It's seems tough to make significant team changes atm in the key areas of heat leader and reserve. I think that from now we have to stick with Edberg and Branford as the reserves, as I don't think Edberg will be strong enough in the main body of the team. Personally, and I know this wouldn't go down well with many Leicester fans, but I would get rid of Nieminen and Graversen, which would give 13.62, however it is difficult to know who to bring in, riders I have considered are Nedermark, Poole, Nermark, C Wright, North and Smolinski. I understand that a couple of these may already have certain criteria to fulfill elsewhere ie North and Smolinski; but there doesn't appear to be a lot more available atm... Would it be too much to ask Doolan to ride at 1 but have strength in depth, or would you sign an out-an-out No.1 but potentially have three reserves???

I'd gamble and go with Smolinski (and if not Nermark), Doolan, Bjerre, Roynon, Edberg, Wright and Branford and just hope that one of the 'three reserves' turns out to be good.

 

Edit: Just realised Smolinski is a no-go re doubling up with Birmingham operating full-quota already

Edited May 14, 2013 by Lions12

[Glennylion]

Lions 12, I calculate different figures for Doolan, Bjerre and Karlsson than you have although not massively.

 

Not sure where Edberg leaves us. See no real difference to Nielson. If we keep Doolan, Bjerre, Roynon and Edberg then we have a 3 point reserve and then Jan and Nemo with very little to play with. Nemo has always been good and solid and to replace him with an untried 8 point number 1 may be a gamble that doesn't come off. That is unless you go for a poor 3 reserve combination and get a 9 point number 1 or axe Doolan and get a 9 pointer. Nemo may be ranked 11 but with Barker, Stead, Kennett, Cook etc... we weren't generally going to be on a level playing field in terms of number 1's but that sacrifice was to make the remainder a stronger set. It just hasn't worked though.

 

Like last year the main issue is a 3 point reserve scoring nothing like it. At this stage I would possibly not be overly hasty as the master plan at the start was only derailed due to Roynon and Blackbird. If Roynon comes in for MK then at this stage i would like to see how that works.