Leicester Lions 2013

[jim the whipper]

Real hero you are mate , slagging off a 19 year old kid trying to do his best miles from home driving to meetings himself rarely with a mechanic , but no doubt your an over achiever that's why you troll the Internet with your fictitious name.Robert is British under 21 champion and proud of it.

 

Junior

Where is home ? it cant be much further than any of the other reserves have to travel , As you say he is "British" under 21 champion and rides in the "National" League .

[lionking]

You can call me what you like but im afriad stats don't lie. He isn't good enough to ride PL.

 

As for being miles away from home . I thought he was British ???? Or does that not quite suit him anymore.

 

No mechanic = poor preperation.

Thing that bugs me is his attitude like he couldn't give a flying f**k about Leicester as long as those gaurentee's keep rolling in

 

Real hero you are mate , slagging off a 19 year old kid trying to do his best miles from home driving to meetings himself rarely with a mechanic , but no doubt your an over achiever that's why you troll the Internet with your fictitious name.Robert is British under 21 champion and proud of it.

 

Junior

[junior fan]

You can call me what you like but im afriad stats don't lie. He isn't good enough to ride PL.

 

As for being miles away from home . I thought he was British ???? Or does that not quite suit him anymore.

 

No mechanic = poor preperation.

Thing that bugs me is his attitude like he couldn't give a flying f**k about Leicester as long as those gaurentee's keep rolling in

 

Here's a clue Robert is proud to be British under 21 champion does that say he doesn't want to be British.How do you know if he's on a guarantee , doubt you have even spoken to him, just go away and troll some other site so people with speedway knowledge can come on here and talk sense.

Junior

[justathought]

I first saw Branford ride for Redcar at Sheffield a couple of seasons ago I think. I can't remember what he scored, but he did look quite promising at that stage. Since then I've seem him ride rather a lot and he does appear to have lost his mojo somewhat.

 

I'm sure he is trying his best, but the Leicester track is a difficult one to master.

[Long Eye]

You can call me what you like but im afriad stats don't lie. He isn't good enough to ride PL.

 

As for being miles away from home . I thought he was British ???? Or does that not quite suit him anymore.

 

No mechanic = poor preperation.

Thing that bugs me is his attitude like he couldn't give a flying f**k about Leicester as long as those gaurentee's keep rolling in

 

So what sort of guarantee do you think he's on? If he gets one, and it's a big if, then it might be the equivalent of 3 points so something in the region of 90-120 quid. Not exactly a fortune and would still mean that he would be losing money each time he races for Leicester. If you ever speak to him you'll find he's keen to do well for the team.

[robert72]

You still posting on here Didnt we determine you were a nobody with no knowledge or credentials .

Here's a clue Robert is proud to be British under 21 champion does that say he doesn't want to be British, are you just dumb.How do you know if he's on a guarantee , doubt you have even spoken to him, just go away and troll some other site so people with speedway knowledge can come on here and talk sense.

Junior

 

I have speedway knowledge and talk sense and the only person who is interested in what i say is mr hoggart LOL

 

I think the problem with rob was winning u21 title and still being a reserve in the PL,something is wrong and needs sorting if he is too move forward in the sport,I am not knocking him as promotors are as much to blame as some riders.

 

Branford needs to look back at jason and gregs carears and see how they did it because he is a million miles away from there carears at there age.

[BTFC LION]

I am not one to have a go at young riders, they all have to start somewhere. The point about track time after a meeting is a very good one. If i was a team manager then I would be getting Robert out there, watching him, stopping him, give advice then send him around again trying to follow my hints or tips. Also I think I am right in saying that the meetings are on DVD. So why not spend time studying it ? Have to say I think money is a massive issue in speedway, you can have as much talent as you like, but without the money to back it up you will never be able to afford the equipment to compete. If a young rider can not score points then very little money coming in, so will never be able to get on a level playing field as far as equipment is concerned. As for a mechanic, is there not one person who is involved within the club, who could do this?? If I knew what I was doing I would be more than happy to help out, but sad to say I would not have a clue. One other point i would like to ask is, why do riders get to a track quite late and then take a couple of rides to get the set up right. If they were there earlier they could at least have a run around the track and make sure all is well with the bike. I understand it takes time to prep a track but would of thought this could be done? Unless its against the rules?

[chopper]

It's fair to say Robert has had some major injuries perhaps they have held him back, whether he progresses any further remains to be seen but thanks to the Leciester supporters that gave him support.

Chopper

Edited July 30, 2013 by chopper

[lionking]

I an entitled to my opinion as a paying supporter paying his wages.

I have spoken to Robert asked him how he felt about riding for Leicester. "He said it pays the bills better then not riding " so to me that says he doesn't care about wearing that lions head that so many people care about.

 

 

You still posting on here Didnt we determine you were a nobody with no knowledge or credentials .

Here's a clue Robert is proud to be British under 21 champion does that say he doesn't want to be British, are you just dumb.How do you know if he's on a guarantee , doubt you have even spoken to him, just go away and troll some other site so people with speedway knowledge can come on here and talk sense.

Junior

[flagrag]

I think the problem with Branford at the min is confidence maybe it's the track or other things. There was rumours going round on Sun that was his last match for Leicester hence why no team kevlars the name I heard as replacement was Sargeant or Lewis Rose we shall have to see.

[robert72]

I am not one to have a go at young riders, they all have to start somewhere. The point about track time after a meeting is a very good one. If i was a team manager then I would be getting Robert out there, watching him, stopping him, give advice then send him around again trying to follow my hints or tips. Also I think I am right in saying that the meetings are on DVD. So why not spend time studying it ? Have to say I think money is a massive issue in speedway, you can have as much talent as you like, but without the money to back it up you will never be able to afford the equipment to compete. If a young rider can not score points then very little money coming in, so will never be able to get on a level playing field as far as equipment is concerned. As for a mechanic, is there not one person who is involved within the club, who could do this?? If I knew what I was doing I would be more than happy to help out, but sad to say I would not have a clue. One other point i would like to ask is, why do riders get to a track quite late and then take a couple of rides to get the set up right. If they were there earlier they could at least have a run around the track and make sure all is well with the bike. I understand it takes time to prep a track but would of thought this could be done? Unless its against the rules?

 

No its Not against the rules,I have seen a number of riders doing it over the years,get there early and go out for a few laps to test a bike out..

Edited July 30, 2013 by robert72

[TMW]

I think the problem with Branford at the min is confidence maybe it's the track or other things. There was rumours going round on Sun that was his last match for Leicester hence why no team kevlars the name I heard as replacement was Sargeant or Lewis Rose we shall have to see.

 

I'm not sure changes at this stage are the answer. I'm told Rob knows where his problem is he isn't gating. That doesn't smack of arrogance to me. The team have been short of Kake's leadership really since before the 4's. I do hope Doolan takes him under his wing. It's his iob as team Capt. On Sarj's performance on Sun no disrespect to him but would he be better? at this stage?. Don't know about Rose as i've not seen him ride the track. He seems to me to be a bit more of a fast track specialist as when he went to RH he went home in an in an ambulance. He certainly could be a possibility for Sheffield though

Edited July 30, 2013 by TMW

[proud panther]

Rob Branford is struggling at the moment, but he is only a young lad, & had a bad injury last season. Add to that a lack of guidance & funds for equipment, is it any wonder he is struggling ? The Leicester management need to help him through this difficult period, because there are few better options on a 3 point average in my opinion.

[Glennylion]

Not sure if there is a right or wrong solution. I don't know Robert, whether he practices or not and if he does how often. I don't know about his mechanical issues but it does look like he is struggling. He doesn't look totally competitive and recently a lot of his points have been gifted to him, although that is part of racing.

 

If his confidence is shot then trundling at the back each race is not doing him any good. At the same time getting rid for some one else and not sticking with him may not do him any good.

 

For the Lions, management and supporters, this is professional sport. It isn't a practice session at junior level or a trial. Come end of the season and the Lions finish 7th, no bonus points are awarded for sticking with a young rider where as the 6th place team didn't. No good DH, the Lions or team mates missing out on revenue or salaries because we stuck with a young lad. Supporters aren't paying at the gate to watch an extended trial. This is professional sport and it is often tough. At the same time the Lions would have invested time and patience in Robert.

 

In 2011 the Lions gave Garrity a chance and stuck with him presumably for his benefit and for the benefit of the lions in 2012. He went to Rye House. Last year the Lions stuck with Lewis Blackbird who was achiving under 2 points and very much weakened the team. They gave him another chance this year. He decided to move on for his benefit.

 

The Lions are in a difficult position. Stick with a struggling youngster for the potential good of speedway and for the youngster but to the possible deteriment of the results, performances, play off ambitions or Leicester Speedway as a business. Clearly everyone would prefer to stick with him if it pays dividends.

 

Stick or twist, which is better?

[Vulcan62]

Don't forget that only a few week's ago Rob was top scorer at Edinburgh with paid 11. Normally,we should be able to win at home even with one low scoring rider but with only Jan and Kevin anywhere near full fitness, we just appear to run out of steam. Hopefully, if Nemo comes back somewhere near his best (and with the reshuffle of the riding order) and Alex comes back into the side we could still yet get into the play-offs! I know that means picking some points up away at Rye House, Scunthorpe, Redcar or Newcastle but you never know....... One other thing, if we don't make the top 6 would Coventry and Peterborough and possibly Kings Lynn be interested in some sort of East Midlands Cup to fill the gaps at the end of the season. Cov and Peterborough are not going to get in the Elite League play-offs so might be glad of the extra meetings especially with our travelling support. They could do without their number 1 or we could borrow one to even the teams up a bit. I'm sure it would pull in the crowds at our place as long as they brought something like their normal team.

[Gemini]

I think Coventry could come to Leicester with their full team and still struggle to win.

[greyhoundp]

Looking back on paper our team last season on paper it is weaker but in reality it was stronger

 

Far too weak at reserve this season Branford is the worst person to pull a new era lions jacket on.

He has the biggest ego & his U21 title was the biggest fluke in the world . Unfortunately that boosted his far too big ego. He walks round & talks like Jason Crump but gets on a bike & rides like Donald Trump ;-)

 

That is a harsh and somewhat unwarranted criticism of a young rider trying to make his way in the sport, he has never struck me as having a big ego, he deservedly won the Under 21 title, best rider on the night. I dont think we can say just yet he has reached his level, however lack of funds can play a big part in holding a rider back, as can not having a competant mechanic, and driving to a meeting, then preparing your own bike can have an efect, i know his dad has in the past flown over from Aussie, and during those times his scores have improved, i dont know if Chopper has got over here this season, but hopefully he will be able to, and support his son, as he always has done in the past.

[chopper]

 

 

That is a harsh and somewhat unwarranted criticism of a young rider trying to make his way in the sport, he has never struck me as having a big ego, he deservedly won the Under 21 title, best rider on the night. I dont think we can say just yet he has reached his level, however lack of funds can play a big part in holding a rider back, as can not having a competant mechanic, and driving to a meeting, then preparing your own bike can have an efect, i know his dad has in the past flown over from Aussie, and during those times his scores have improved, i dont know if Chopper has got over here this season, but hopefully he will be able to, and support his son, as he always has done in the past.

You can't please everyone that's life, I won't get into a slanging match on here, no I won't be over there anymore as much as I've enjoyed my time over there I have had to go back to earning a living but it's all water under the bridge now and Robert will move on keep racing and hopefully realise his potential.

Cheers Chopper

[jim the whipper]

I am not one to have a go at young riders, they all have to start somewhere. The point about track time after a meeting is a very good one. If i was a team manager then I would be getting Robert out there, watching him, stopping him, give advice then send him around again trying to follow my hints or tips.

Would you also be paying the resulting service bills for his engine , clutch, tyres and chains after he had revved his engine to death on a track that is slicked out after 15 heats and a junior match ?

[Jonny the spud]

 

Would you also be paying the resulting service bills for his engine , clutch, tyres and chains after he had revved his engine to death on a track that is slicked out after 15 heats and a junior match ?

 

Unfortunately that's exactly what you have to do if you want to improve