nobrakeshere1 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 I'm sure most people want the track changers to happen, in fact it's very important that they do. The management at Leicester have said this will be done so we have no alternative other than to believe them. I believe that this is to important for them to ignore or do nothing about. And I'm sure they realize what a negative impact not changing things would have. We have a great looking team for 2013 and I'm sure come March we will also have a better race track with much improved racing. Quite right Nightshift, it should have been done before, no doubt about that. But before the 2013 season starts the track will be changed, the entry to the bends will be wider but the overall length will not alter a great deal. We should all remember that a problem with any forum is that some people know what's going on beacuse they hear it first hand and others just try and guess, I'm not guessing. And the training days have been great, some of the youngsters looking very quick. I'm even tempted to get my old leathers out......maybe not, may get shown up by a thirteen year old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 It takes a lot of time and effort to change a Speedway Track. The initial track when first built, is often not fit for purpose, and overtaking is at a premium. I know this having been a Lakeside (Arena Essex) supporter for most of my life. The original, flat as a pancake track with sticks, not safety fences, was woeful. Over the years it improved and with our current track curator, we witness a great deal of overtaking - as the bends now have more banking and the shape in/out of them has been significantly changed. Just to add, don't go by comments made by other people on here that still knock Lakeside, and do not go by our camera-shy performances whenever Sky are in town! We do witness a great deal of overtaking - much more so than many away tracks that I've visited. Just to add, in the case of Leicester, why is there so much distrust from some quarters? You have possibly the most forward-looking promotion within the Premier League, and you should get behind them 100%. Everything I read about Leicester suggests that you are a success story in the making - so why the negativity from some 'fans'? Rome may not have been built in a day, and Speedway Tracks conducive to good racing, aren't built in a couple of seasons! I think you are confusing overtaking and racing, with riders making mistakes on a small, tight, slow track that is more suited to cycle speedway. Lakeside, Eastbourne and Belle Vue are boring tracks im afraid, its called speedway, not slowway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Eye Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 I think you are confusing overtaking and racing, with riders making mistakes on a small, tight, slow track that is more suited to cycle speedway. Lakeside, Eastbourne and Belle Vue are boring tracks im afraid, its called speedway, not slowway. I've been to Lakeside a lot over the last two seasons and seen some good meetings there. When I went in 2005/6 the racing was almost nonexistent. Since the new promotion have come in it has been transformed in terms of entertainment. Like all tracks, a few meetings are excellent, some good and some mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 I think you are confusing overtaking and racing, with riders making mistakes on a small, tight, slow track that is more suited to cycle speedway. Lakeside, Eastbourne and Belle Vue are boring tracks im afraid, its called speedway, not slowway. Well I guess it's horses for courses then, as I personally prefer to see riders competing on smaller, technical tracks. I know it's not called slowway - but it is known as Speedway RACING. If I wanted to watch blokes on a bike opening the throttle full pelt whilst hanging on to their handlebars for dear life, then I'd go and watch motorbike road racing at Donnington. Anyway, I don't want to hijack a Lions thread arguing with a supporter - particularly when it was his team's promotion that was the most vocal in blocking Leicester's progression into the upper tier in the first place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Robert . Glyn Taylor has not gone home this winter , so he needs a source of income to live off and having been shown how lucrative practise sessions at leicester are by the original guy who ran them has pushed him aside to grab the cash for himself so thats why the alterations have been left until the very last minute , I cant see why you have not got bored with the Leicester threads and left them like so many others . why would you want to attempt to debate with the likes of MRCTS who never adds anything other than snipes at people who dont accept whatever they are spoon fed , volty ,fanmale ,hurricanes and Jonny come lately long eye are are no better really . occasionally someone other than these few will make a post based on their perception of how wonderful everything is at Leicester after reading posts by the clique ,such a the voice of reason and assuming they agree with the party line will be greeted with agreement for the headless chickens . do your self a favour and find something else to occupy your time . this lot really aint worth it . anybody who used to post real opinions has long gone maybe it's time to join them ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Eye Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Robert . Glyn Taylor has not gone home this winter , so he needs a source of income to live off and having been shown how lucrative practise sessions at leicester are by the original guy who ran them has pushed him aside to grab the cash for himself so thats why the alterations have been left until the very last minute , I cant see why you have not got bored with the Leicester threads and left them like so many others . why would you want to attempt to debate with the likes of MRCTS who never adds anything other than snipes at people who dont accept whatever they are spoon fed , volty ,fanmale ,hurricanes and Jonny come lately long eye are are no better really . occasionally someone other than these few will make a post based on their perception of how wonderful everything is at Leicester after reading posts by the clique ,such a the voice of reason and assuming they agree with the party line will be greeted with agreement for the headless chickens . do your self a favour and find something else to occupy your time . this lot really aint worth it . anybody who used to post real opinions has long gone maybe it's time to join them ? Yes he has. He flew out on new years day. He'll be in Australia for about 6 weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Never mind Lion's fans.......as they say, "there's always a prick in a bunch of roses". We have our little mob on the Lakeside forum that forever whinge and moan about everything to do with our club. They are ignored, and soon either vanish into the ether, or take up knitting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 jim the whipper and robert72 what a pair of brainless tools who like to think they know it all but know nothing and every time they post make themselves look embarrassingly stupid.is there any chance you two can go off and support coventry this year? you should feel at home there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 jim the whipper and robert72 what a pair of brainless tools who like to think they know it all but know nothing and every time they post make themselves look embarrassingly stupid.is there any chance you two can go off and support coventry this year? you should feel at home there. What has Coventry done to deserve those two?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 What has Coventry done to deserve those two?! i know you have a couple of dead heads down there thought it might be a good idear for them to join up and form a little gang and talk rubbish to each other all night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionsDen Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Oh dear, it's degenerated into a personal slanging match again hasn't it? Surely everyone who comes on the forum is entitled to a viewpoint? They are not necessarily wrong, or even mentally ill as someone suggested, just for having an alternative view. Jim the Whipper is right. Leicester threads have ended up being deserted and they now often appear to be bereft of any proper debate. Is Robert72 not entitled to question the intended track change given that there's form here in the sense that it was promised before and never happened? Whatever the rights or wrongs of his opinion, personally I don't think whatever they do will be enough to finally serve up the kind of 'racing' that caused the whole Leicester track debate to start in the first place. The problems with the track at BP go beyond a repair job and what they can do with either the money or time available. Having been there around the time it was laid, and knowing the people who helped put it down, our collective view is that it needs ripping up and starting again, and that isn't going to happen for obvious reasons, and nor should we expect it. Therefore I guess you either you accept it as it is (or will be by the start of next season) and pay your money each week, or you simply go elsewhere (though I wouldn't wish Coventry as an alternative on either Robert or Jim! ). Ending on a positive note, the fact that the track has a problem, and that this is at last finally recognised by the promotion, can only be a good thing. Edited January 4, 2013 by LionsDen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 i agree loinsden robert72 is entitled to have his say and have a viewpoint but he has posted over 600 times and 600 times its been about the same thing,the track when is enough,enough? the reason a lot dont post on here anymore is probably they are sick and tired of reading the same crap robert72 and jim keep posting all the time,why not change the record and talk about the riders or the teams chances for the coming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 i agree loinsden robert72 is entitled to have his say and have a viewpoint but he has posted over 600 times and 600 times its been about the same thing,the track when is enough,enough? the reason a lot dont post on here anymore is probably they are sick and tired of reading the same crap robert72 and jim keep posting all the time,why not change the record and talk about the riders or the teams chances for the coming season. sorry Neb I forgot you were one of the remaining few so you never got a mention, nothing personal , I just haven't seen you spitting bile at anyone who dares to question anything Leicester recently and its kind of difficult for me being (to quote some of your previous bile ) braindead . sorry too that robert has failed 600 times to swallow all that he is fed by the leicester promotion and their lackies (you can include yourself in that so dont feel left out ) but I assume robert like myself thought that being a public forum this would be a place to air concerns or maybe test an alternative view /idea among people who had a similar interest . well I'm afraid Robert got that wrong around 600 times .and despite my own posts being about many different subjects pertaining to Leicester speedway I would think in your esteemed estimation i would not be far behind , Just a note for robert . the lackies have already started projecting the track changes . someone has quoted on here that the entrances to bends are being widened so it's the cheap option .nothing radical like actually doing anything about the length of the corridors that connect the sixpenny bit turns so it wont take very long to do . moving the kerbs in a couple of metres and filling the gaps with shale should only take days . whereas trying to build an actual racetrack out of the pigs ear that was thrown down 2 seasons ago would be a more considerable task taking weeks rather than days , anyway you will have to wait and see whether the racing improves before you make any further comments on the track , why not use the time between now and march to trawl back through the 29 pages on this thread looking for a post by NEB that is actually about a subject rather than personal abuse to others posters . It wont be long before you can come back on here and attempt to debate the lack of effect of the cheapskate alterations so be patient . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Robert . Glyn Taylor has not gone home this winter , so he needs a source of income to live off and having been shown how lucrative practise sessions at leicester are by the original guy who ran them has pushed him aside to grab the cash for himself so thats why the alterations have been left until the very last minute , I cant see why you have not got bored with the Leicester threads and left them like so many others . why would you want to attempt to debate with the likes of MRCTS who never adds anything other than snipes at people who dont accept whatever they are spoon fed , volty ,fanmale ,hurricanes and Jonny come lately long eye are are no better really . occasionally someone other than these few will make a post based on their perception of how wonderful everything is at Leicester after reading posts by the clique ,such a the voice of reason and assuming they agree with the party line will be greeted with agreement for the headless chickens . do your self a favour and find something else to occupy your time . this lot really aint worth it . anybody who used to post real opinions has long gone maybe it's time to join them ? remember this post mr i know everthing jim the whipper like most of your previous posts WRONG yet again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 sorry Neb I forgot you were one of the remaining few so you never got a mention, nothing personal , I just haven't seen you spitting bile at anyone who dares to question anything Leicester recently and its kind of difficult for me being (to quote some of your previous bile ) braindead . sorry too that robert has failed 600 times to swallow all that he is fed by the leicester promotion and their lackies (you can include yourself in that so dont feel left out ) but I assume robert like myself thought that being a public forum this would be a place to air concerns or maybe test an alternative view /idea among people who had a similar interest . well I'm afraid Robert got that wrong around 600 times .and despite my own posts being about many different subjects pertaining to Leicester speedway I would think in your esteemed estimation i would not be far behind , Just a note for robert . the lackies have already started projecting the track changes . someone has quoted on here that the entrances to bends are being widened so it's the cheap option .nothing radical like actually doing anything about the length of the corridors that connect the sixpenny bit turns so it wont take very long to do . moving the kerbs in a couple of metres and filling the gaps with shale should only take days . whereas trying to build an actual racetrack out of the pigs ear that was thrown down 2 seasons ago would be a more considerable task taking weeks rather than days , anyway you will have to wait and see whether the racing improves before you make any further comments on the track , why not use the time between now and march to trawl back through the 29 pages on this thread looking for a post by NEB that is actually about a subject rather than personal abuse to others posters . It wont be long before you can come back on here and attempt to debate the lack of effect of the cheapskate alterations so be patient . What a waste of bandwidth. Why not take up the problem of the bad track with the poster above you who was around at that time, and not the ones that are currently working on it. What is worst. Complaining about others believing everything they are told, or the more boring ones who are allegedly speedway fans with not a good word to say about anything. If it's not for you, take up knitting, that'll fill your days in for you and you get a nice jumper out of it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Oh dear, it's degenerated into a personal slanging match again hasn't it? Surely everyone who comes on the forum is entitled to a viewpoint? They are not necessarily wrong, or even mentally ill as someone suggested, just for having an alternative view. You're right of course Lionsden. However, a couple of questions you might like to answer with regards to debating (and the same goes for the other couple of people who are calling the Leicester forums for lack of any proper debate) 1. If you're constantly putting forward the same statement over and over again without any attempt whatsoever in either engaging in the responses it solicits, whilst also not appearing to have any interest in any other wider issue to do with Leicester Speedway that is outside of your statement, how does constructive debate then happen? seriously? and how do you expect the level of debate to not degenerate, whether or not you are correct in your assumptions, if constantly making a statement is all that you are appear to come on here to do. 2. If you constantly blame the people who's views differ from your own, accusing them of being 'bullies' because there would appear to be more disagreeing than agreeing with you, does that then make you correct in your assumption that they are 'bullies' or whatever other term you might want to use. Really, does it? Just because you say it's so? What a waste of bandwidth. Why not take up the problem of the bad track with the poster above you who was around at that time, and not the ones that are currently working on it. too right. weirdly enough, i just happened to be down at beaumont park when they were concreting the fence posts in and i remember that seeming to be the point that most of the people who were working on the track had the realisation that the track shape was quite as bad as it was. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but i don't recall thinking the track looked too bad until the fence posts narrowed it all up and i recall having a 'debate' with Lionsden on here when he said pretty much the same thing. Maybe it did need some of the people heavily involved at the time to have had a bit more balls and make more of a stance at that time but i don't recall the crap track being any part of the reason it all went pete thonge between them all. I do remember going straight around to my uncles to joke about how they had got the measuements all wrong and thinking they would be digging it all up again (not 3 years later though!). Quite right Nightshift, it should have been done before, no doubt about that. But before the 2013 season starts the track will be changed, the entry to the bends will be wider but the overall length will not alter a great deal. We should all remember that a problem with any forum is that some people know what's going on beacuse they hear it first hand and others just try and guess, I'm not guessing. And the training days have been great, some of the youngsters looking very quick. I'm even tempted to get my old leathers out......maybe not, may get shown up by a thirteen year old! Nobrakes, Do you think they will widen it enough in the entrance into the corners if they are keeping the length in the straight. My reading of your post is that for you the jury is out. The widening of the entrances i would guess is the most important part but i can't see how the entrance can be made wide enough for that can happen without chopping a major part of the straight back? I'm intrigued as to what you know to be happening. Mick. Edited January 4, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrossifan Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) We've got the old posters on here again I see, just teeing themselves up to continue to have a go even when the track changes that they have wanted so much have been done :-) And , surely (as intimated by Volty) its impossible to widen the entrance into the corners from the inside whilst NOT effectively shortening the straights. PMSL Edited January 4, 2013 by hurricanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Quite right Nightshift, it should have been done before, no doubt about that. But before the 2013 season starts the track will be changed, the entry to the bends will be wider but the overall length will not alter a great deal. We should all remember that a problem with any forum is that some people know what's going on beacuse they hear it first hand and others just try and guess, I'm not guessing. We've got the old posters on here again I see, just teeing themselves up to continue to have a go even when the track changes that they have wanted so much have been done :-) And , surely (as intimated by Volty) its impossible to widen the entrance into the corners from the inside whilst NOT effectively shortening the straights. PMSL He 's not guessing PMSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 jim the whipper and robert72 what a pair of brainless tools who like to think they know it all but know nothing and every time they post make themselves look embarrassingly stupid.is there any chance you two can go off and support coventry this year? you should feel at home there. you really make me laugh,I have forgot more about speedway than you will ever know and i would never insult people like you do constantly,but i guess alot of people can see you for what you are neb. If you keep wanting lions fans who are not in your group of happy clappers to leave and go and support coventry, then do you really think leicester speedway would survive with the amount of fans that have already walked away from BP, Speedway honestly wouldnt last a season with you running it, but keep up the funny comments and maybe i will see you at BP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Robert . Glyn Taylor has not gone home this winter , so he needs a source of income to live off and having been shown how lucrative practise sessions at leicester are by the original guy who ran them has pushed him aside to grab the cash for himself so thats why the alterations have been left until the very last minute , I cant see why you have not got bored with the Leicester threads and left them like so many others . why would you want to attempt to debate with the likes of MRCTS who never adds anything other than snipes at people who dont accept whatever they are spoon fed , volty ,fanmale ,hurricanes and Jonny come lately long eye are are no better really . occasionally someone other than these few will make a post based on their perception of how wonderful everything is at Leicester after reading posts by the clique ,such a the voice of reason and assuming they agree with the party line will be greeted with agreement for the headless chickens . do your self a favour and find something else to occupy your time . this lot really aint worth it . anybody who used to post real opinions has long gone maybe it's time to join them ? What exactly do you and nobert add to this forum.......It' doesn't take Einstein to know who are,get over it,the wars over,you lost, I always knew you were a well balanced guy......a chip on both shoulders! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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