Dave_minall Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 perhaps someone will be able to invest time into developing his off track skills as well I was hoping Michael Lee would have done this back in the day, but I guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 WONDER if Tai will commit to a UK league next season; now that he's in the SGP. I guess time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTM Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) Anybody know why Scott NIcholls wasn,t given a chance I know Tai will score a few points but still think Scotty deserved a shot if we have to have a Brit representative. .I don,t think with Tai,s leanings towards Aussie he will be truly supported by the majority of British fans hope he proves me and others wrong Edited October 18, 2012 by FTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Anybody know why Scott NIcholls wasn,t given a chance I know Tai will score a few points but still think Scotty deserved a shot if we have to have a Brit representative. .I don,t think with Tai,s leanings towards Aussie he will be truly supported by the majority of British fans hope he proves me and others wrong Seriously Scotty? I think Scott would probably even have a little chuckle at that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearhead Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 DO you think this forum is representative of the speedway population as a whole? In the circle of those interested I've spoken to its around 80/20 that disagree with'Tai's inclusion,token brit,comes across with a bad attitude,not good enough and MJJ not being included are the main points raised,having said that,all the best to him Personally I've stated before that he's now had a second inclusion without qualifying and MJJ has proved his worth in the GPs and SWC and I think its a missed opportunity leaving him out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) MJJ must be spitting feather at this. Wuffy is a good rider and I like him and will be supporting him in the SGP BUT he does not deserve to be there really. MJJ is a more exciting prospect than Wuffy at present. If as is being discussed SKY decide to dump SGP then having a Brit is a moot point. If Wuffy finishes 15th and does badly then who are the Brits to put in for 2014? Not ONE Brit rider is making any decent progress and the only candidates are the failed ones from previous years Scotty and Chris. Poor choice for me although I hope to be proved wrong and Wuffy wins the damn thing Most unpopular British representative? That's a bit unfair. It's not his fault he was brought up in Australia and has more in common with them than us. He has every right to be called British as last time I looked Scunthorpe was in Britain. Yes he is not the brightest penny in the purse but he is the best we have at present and is not that bad a lad. He just says things when he is angry that make him seem 'unpatriotic' whatever that is supposed to be. Edited October 18, 2012 by pandorum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 DO you think this forum is representative of the speedway population as a whole? I don't know. Why don't you try a poll in the Speedwya Stars? "Do you agree with Tais inclusion in the GPs?" and "Will you support Tai in the GPs?" see what response you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 PREFER to wait and see ... at the end of the 2013 SGP season you will have a definitive answer. Personally, that's me, not speaking on behalf of SS, would much prefer to see him succeed than fail, as I would any rider, but many of here appear to want him to flounder. Don't see the sense in that but each to his own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 PREFER to wait and see ... at the end of the 2013 SGP season you will have a definitive answer. Personally, that's me, not speaking on behalf of SS, would much prefer to see him succeed than fail, as I would any rider, but many of here appear to want him to flounder. Don't see the sense in that but each to his own. Success comes to those that deserve it, he does not help himself with things he says and does. you only have to look at what he puts on his twitter account. its not all about what happens on the track. another super star before he has made it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I think some of the criticism aimed at Tai in this thread is a bit uncalled for. It wasn't his decision to get a wild card, he's been offered it and accepted, and who can blame him. I don't agree with the inclusion of a Brit for the sake of it but its not our decision it rests with BSI who obviously think there must be a Brit in the series. If anyone can name a better British rider then go ahead, but I think you'll struggle to find one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Success comes to those that deserve it, he does not help himself with things he says and does. you only have to look at what he puts on his twitter account. its not all about what happens on the track. another super star before he has made it . HE'S not the only one in the series who needs to "grow up" shall we say and I have already suggested that he (and others) shut down their Twitter accounts. But he's in, he's young, has talent and his GP career is now in his own hands, to succeed or screw up. Time will tell, much better than even such bastions of wisdom like you and I Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 HE'S not the only one in the series who needs to "grow up" shall we say and I have already suggested that he (and others) shut down their Twitter accounts. But he's in, he's young, has talent and his GP career is now in his own hands, to succeed or screw up. Time will tell, much better than even such bastions of wisdom like you and I Andy. I am not so sure about me and wisdom :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCaptain Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Not sure why having a Brit in the GP series is so important. The argument that there needs to be a Brit at Cardiff to ensure a good 'home' crowd is diluted by the award of a wild card to the winner of the British Final. Let the fifteen best riders (-ish) battle it out in the GP series, and let the best Brit (accepting that 'best Brit' and 'winner of the British Final' may not be the same person) join them for the Cardiff GP. Being a non-twittering Luddite, and standing on the wrong side of the pit wall, I have only anecdotal information about the attitude of Tai. Having been on the other side of the pit wall, I am personally aware of plenty of other riders with an attitude. Some of them need it to be speedway riders. How successful would a calm John McEnroe have been? So, I have no knowledge of Tai as an individual, but I would have preferred to have any of several individuals in the GP series before Tai, if they have done the graft, and worked their way through qualifying meetings, or are performing better than Tai. If the organisers can genuinely claim that Tai is there because of his ability (and provide some proof), then his inclusion is fair. If he is there because of a desire to include a Brit in the series, then this is neither proper nor necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Anybody know why Scott NIcholls wasn,t given a chance I know Tai will score a few points but still think Scotty deserved a shot if we have to have a Brit representative. Dear God. Some morons on here need to start backing Tai. Its not his fault he has been offered a place is it!! For the record he will be bottom and not a cat in hells chance of winning a gp. Wouldnt expect him to score over 8 in any meeting any takers? lol I dont blame Woffinden for accepting the GP invitation,he`d be mad not to.My problem is with BSI,it appears that Woffinden is in as the token Brit,IMO the 2013 GP series on form shouldve been a Brit free zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyy Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Whatever riders are nominated, a totally ridiculas system anyway, it is never going to be right to all. Why a British rider each year, no idea but, suggest the competition organisors do what's best for their buisness, at least you would hope so, It would be nice if the number of British sponsers who throw bikes, engines etc etc at overseas rders would perhaps turn homeward and give Brits in general a equal playing field. Perhaps Tatum should have been nominated, he seems to have the answer to all the riders varying problems!!! Having spent many many hours in pits around the country it is a touch naieve to say that Tai is the only user of old englsh terminology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoestringtours Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I've stopped following him on Twitter. Constant foul language can't be doing with him... HE'S not the only one in the series who needs to "grow up" shall we say and I have already suggested that he (and others) shut down their Twitter accounts. But he's in, he's young, has talent and his GP career is now in his own hands, to succeed or screw up. Time will tell, much better than even such bastions of wisdom like you and I Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 HOPE the top line in the above post isn't attributable to me. Been called a twit many times but not a user of this social media phenomenon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Well I for one would go to Cardiff and watch most of the GPs even if there was not a Brit in it. I would prefer there to be one but only on ability, I hope Tai does not end up with very few points, but when you look at the ability of most current Brits I would question the inclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbiter Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Tai wildcard joke of the year that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) Wish Tai all the best - needs a fresh British face after Harris's sad struggles vs occasional flashes. With the system we have there can always be arguements for a riders inclusion or not. In the GP's there seem to be about 8 riders at a different level of consistency and behind that there are perhaps 20 riders in the world who are very close on ability. Being the best Brit in that pool of riders right now gets you into the series. Its a marketing decision, maybe not right, but even in F1 you have drivers not there on ability but other reasons too. The truth is the best 15 riders in the world is not a black and white thing - it change week upon week. MJJ as a GP winner can feel definately wronged by this decision but his time will come. His win was impressive but there is still consistency to achieve to be a long duration GP rider. I personally would like to see an improved qualifying system, regionalized like the old days and then in the challenge including the 7 riders who did not make the GP top 8. Have 5 of them qualify still leaving open 2 spots, but those spots should go to riders like Hampel who missed rounds through injury as a priority. Edited October 18, 2012 by SteveEvans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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