ashman Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 this result should have taken over 9 heats @ ipswitch. and 9 heats @ workingon. the result would have been in workingtons favor. now tell me how the hell we got an ipwitch win. no wonder speedway is in such a mess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 this result should have taken over 9 heats @ ipswitch. and 9 heats @ workingon. the result would have been in workingtons favor. now tell me how the hell we got an ipwitch win. no wonder speedway is in such a mess The decision I think is still more about the fact that the offer to restage was declined by Worky ! I know that time left in the season is the reason this option was not taken but the offer was there and that's why someone said " let the result stand then " 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 this result should have taken over 9 heats @ ipswitch. and 9 heats @ workingon. the result would have been in workingtons favor. now tell me how the hell we got an ipwitch win. no wonder speedway is in such a mess Perhaps they could have let each side pick a heat in turn as to which ones were included - 9 each!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 One thing they should change is the use of tacticals in 2 legged matches, we were effectively punished for doing well at Ipswich, only 2pts behind after heat 10, they maybe balance out over the season but imo unfair in cup matches. but thats just sensible and we are talking british speedway here not much makes sense The decision I think is still more about the fact that the offer to restage was declined by Worky ! I know that time left in the season is the reason this option was not taken but the offer was there and that's why someone said " let the result stand then " thats the thing though and some comets fans wont accept we were given the option to restage and declinedi fully understand the promotions reasons but it dosnt make it any easyier being a pasionate comets fan when the promotion throw away the chance to progress to the final of a competion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Ummm, you lost me there, read back through my post time and time again and not once mentioned it had anything to do with our promotion so don't twist what wasn't there , don't need anyone to blame but saying it is a farce that a team gets into a final on agg when they would have ridden 6 more heats than the Comets , how the hell can it be on aggregate, Ipswich rode 15 heats and Comets rode 9 , so yes its a joke !!! These extra 6 heats we've apparently ridden - were they not against Workington riders? So you're wrong, Ipswich and Workington have ridden the same amount of heats - 15 at Ipswich and 9 at Workington - but 26 heats raced between the two clubs, Ipswich were on top after those 26 and have been declared as the team worthy of going through - would it of been right in your eyes if the team losing on aggregate at the time of the stoppage went through?! i share the opinion that agregate should be same heats at both tracks but this was the fall back option after a new date couldnt be arranged to stage the 2nd leg over 12 to 15 hts to declare a full result maybe something that needs looking at for future years Why should the aggreate after the same heats be used? Why should you erase 5 heats from the records? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 These extra 6 heats we've apparently ridden - were they not against Workington riders? So you're wrong, Ipswich and Workington have ridden the same amount of heats - 15 at Ipswich and 9 at Workington - but 26 heats raced between the two clubs, Ipswich were on top after those 26 and have been declared as the team worthy of going through - would it of been right in your eyes if the team losing on aggregate at the time of the stoppage went through?! Why should the aggreate after the same heats be used? Why should you erase 5 heats from the records? Shut up !!!! So 26 heats were ridden between the two teams, 15 of them from Ipswich and 9 from Workington, aggregate to me should be 15 heats from Ipswich and 15 from Workington, quite simple really . You should erase 5 heats from Ipswich so the aggregate is on what both teams have raced which should be 9, pretty much common sense really . Makes no difference to the end result for Ipswich which will see Somerset come out on top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan 1991 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Where the hell do you get 26 heats from ? ,15+9=24 if 26 heats had been raced the deficit would have been wiped out and comets would be in the final ,no doubt weather affected therefore the team with the lowest rainfall would win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Where the hell do you get 26 heats from ? ,15+9=24 if 26 heats had been raced the deficit would have been wiped out and comets would be in the final ,no doubt weather affected therefore the team with the lowest rainfall would win Got this image of davidj counting her fingers and toes now and forgetting to stop at 24 how do you know the deficit would have been wiped out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan 1991 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Got this image of davidj counting her fingers and toes now and forgetting to stop at 24 how do you know the deficit would have been wiped out?? The witches were starting to wilt ,they got out of jail and they know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 The witches were starting to wilt ,they got out of jail and they know it but so were Newcastle at your place and we finished strongly... You can never tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 The witches were starting to wilt ,they got out of jail and they know it You could say Workington got an advantage in the first place facing Ipswich minus their in form rider due to a late international call up and their key reserve. At the end of the day your promotion were given the opportunity to replay the meeting this week with Ipswich apparently happy to do so, but your promotion not so. In that instance their should only be one outcome and that is the one that happened. You Worky fans should just accept it and stop whining like a bunch of girls!! I'd have thought you had more pressing worries to get your knickers in a twist over. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Shut up !!!! So 26 heats were ridden between the two teams, 15 of them from Ipswich and 9 from Workington, aggregate to me should be 15 heats from Ipswich and 15 from Workington, quite simple really . You should erase 5 heats from Ipswich so the aggregate is on what both teams have raced which should be 9, pretty much common sense really . Makes no difference to the end result for Ipswich which will see Somerset come out on top Telling someone to "shut up" when you don't agree with them - the tactics of a 3 year old! Of course the aggregate should be over two lots of 15 heats, so why all of a sudden should we drop 5 off the Ipswich home leg? That's not the 15 heats which you just said should be used! Oh wait, I know why! Because it suits you! We would take you on over 15 heats at your patch, no problem, but your promotion can't or don't want to do that - so that's something you should take up with them rather than trying to invent rules so you can have your cake and eat it! Somerset may beat us in the final, they may not - but one thing's for certain - Workington won't win the league cup this year as we knocked you out of it. You Worky fans should just accept it and stop whining like a bunch of girls!! ^^ This! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Mint Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 You could say Workington got an advantage in the first place facing Ipswich minus their in form rider due to a late international call up and their key reserve. At the end of the day your promotion were given the opportunity to replay the meeting this week with Ipswich apparently happy to do so, but your promotion not so. In that instance their should only be one outcome and that is the one that happened. You Worky fans should just accept it and stop whining like a bunch of girls!! I'd have thought you had more pressing worries to get your knickers in a twist over. Yes, there goes a sneering below the belt comment from a true supporter of speedway up and down the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) The outcome doesn't suit the Worky fans but it suits the promotion ! As I've said before the restaging option was declined which understandably has upset the Comets fans . Don't complain on here , have a go at your owner , he's obviously got an agenda and is not wanting to lose any more money ! I think this debate has now run its course and the fact that the Witches are in the final is really not their fault . Edited October 17, 2012 by Super Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yes, there goes a sneering below the belt comment from a true supporter of speedway up and down the country. If you want to spin that comment like that then that is entirely up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 If you want to spin that comment like that then that is entirely up to you. What else would you mean ???? Get ya self out of that one . Wouldn't have had much luck re-staging for this week, pee'd down everyday since Sat with local flooding . Our riders wanted to carry on Saturday to get a result but what a surprise Ipswich didn't. Ipswich didn't knock us out of the final Jules you got through by default Best of luck Somerset in the final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 What else would you mean ???? Get ya self out of that one . Wouldn't have had much luck re-staging for this week, pee'd down everyday since Sat with local flooding . Our riders wanted to carry on Saturday to get a result but what a surprise Ipswich didn't. Ipswich didn't knock us out of the final Jules you got through by default Best of luck Somerset in the final Think you'll find that the referee abandonned the meeting, not the Ipswich riders. We did knock you out by scoring more points than you - as the book of results will always show. Best of luck to Edinburgh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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