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I would have a line several feet back from the start line, once the riders assemble there put them under starters orders, as soon as they have approached the tapes and are looking to be stationary, I would release the tapes. If any of them has committed an offence like tape touching, I would allow the race to finish and then exclude them after the race finishes. Anyone gardening or pretending to adjust their clutch would also be excluded after the race, NO EXCEPTIONS!

Personally I would modify that so that once over the line they would have 30 seconds to prep their gate and once they are positioned by the start marshall any backward movement would result in an exclusion.

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Personally I would modify that so that once over the line they would have 30 seconds to prep their gate and once they are positioned by the start marshall any backward movement would result in an exclusion.

So we are agreed then. Something must be done.

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So we are agreed then. Something must be done.

Yes agreed, but as this is a "rules" thing is it down to the promoters or the referees to instigate...and do they (the refs) have such meetings to address isues liek this?

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Don't know if this has been suggested before , but why not put the tapes on a timer , once the ref puts the green light on there will be say 5 seconds until the tapes go up , anyone who charges the tapes and hits them gets thrown out

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Don't know if this has been suggested before , but why not put the tapes on a timer , once the ref puts the green light on there will be say 5 seconds until the tapes go up , anyone who charges the tapes and hits them gets thrown out

The time delay needs to vary from heat to heat, otherwise it would be too predictable.

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Interesting article in the Newcastle vs Edinburgh prog about a local supporter with an engineering background who has proposed replacing the starting gate & tapes with a laser beam arrangement for both the front and rear areas which might also eliminate movement before the start.

 

In theory, it would appear to be a more reliable and effective system, and I would guess that it would not be too costly.

 

Hope this idea gets to the prototype testing stage as it could improve this part of racing.

 

 

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A system could be used similar to motor racing. Transponders used to monitor movement, do away with tapes & have an overhead/track canopy 20/25metres down from the start with red lights for ready & then green for go. All the riders are facing forward which eliminates the chance of riders on gates 1 & 4 moving slightly with the riders on 2 & 3 going & getting penalized

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Why not convert starting tapes to the system used in BMX cycling, Metal grid, which drops on button, riders have to have wheel touching, grid drops no false starts, no tapes exclusion, no tapes replacement when broken. Finishing line 2 meters behind grid, can be used as zone to keep riders from turning back towards pits or having further delaying tactics.

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Why not convert starting tapes to the system used in BMX cycling, Metal grid, which drops on button, riders have to have wheel touching, grid drops no false starts, no tapes exclusion, no tapes replacement when broken. Finishing line 2 meters behind grid, can be used as zone to keep riders from turning back towards pits or having further delaying tactics.

Yeah that'll be great when it's all bent and distorted after track preparation equipment and stockcars have been over it......

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Of course track grading would have to be adjusted to not damage the system, and don't stock cars run on air filled tyres, so any problems can be overcome if promoters want to try.

You ever seen a stock car meeting? Plenty of cars finish with punctures. Why try and fix a problem that is only a problem to vociferous minority?

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If you want to reduce the need to garden or even ban it, then replace it with an effective alternative. a. have guys with a novel tool which consists of a long pole with a sort of blade on the end. When I was a lad we called them rakes. b. gather some simple race statistics indicating which are the best gates. Get the guys with the "rakes" to spend a bit more time on the bad gates.

The best ideas are simple!.

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2 minute timer on before every race. This is the allowed time for riders to get to the tapes, do any gardening and get still before tapes up. Once the 2 mins is up its green light on and let the tapes fly. Any rider who isn't revved up will get left on the line, might not be popular to start with but it would only be the riders who are to blame and im certain they won't get caught out more than once.

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