greyhoundp Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) Well following on from the Ko Cup Ommering we got at Mildenhall, The Heathens have to get back on track at Monmore Wood tonight, and we have it all to do to take a decent lead up to the Potteries for tomorrows second leg. I am expecting us to build a lead of around 15 or so points, would like to hear everyones thoughts on how it will pan out, rather than harping back to Sundays loss. Edited October 9, 2012 by greyhoundp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 I'm heading down for this, and I think anything less than a 20 point loss will be a success! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Well weather wise it shouldnt be a problem Vog, been Sunny but Bl**dy cold all day Vog, safe journey mate, but wrap up well if you intend to be outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) Wow didn't see that coming! Dudley look to have thrown lots of points away according to the updates, but if you don't finish you don't score! Certainly not over as Dudley are more than capable of winning at Stoke, but they look like they need to regroup quickly. A real pity for them that Adam Roynon wasn't fit to return. Congratulations to my old mate Malcolm Vasey and his team for keeping it to one point. Edited October 9, 2012 by PhilK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Well done to Lee at reserve for the Potter gunna be a good a great rider next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 I'm heading down for this, and I think anything less than a 20 point loss will be a success! Someones gonna be a happy chappy. haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Wow didn't see that coming! Dudley look to have thrown lots of points away according to the updates, but if you don't finish you don't score! Certainly not over as Dudley are more than capable of winning at Stoke, but they look like they need to regroup quickly. A real pity for them that Adam Roynon wasn't fit to return. Congratulations to my old mate Malcolm Vasey and his team for keeping it to one point. And set up perfect for the 2nd leg,,,, could be a great night,,,and folk say there is no place for the play off,,,,,,,,this could be so good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniev123 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 As I said in another cyber space........Won the League and donated the rest to Mildy or Stoke just like we did to Buxton in 2010. Waste of a 2012 Season Ticket and do the Management really care? Does it really matter in 2013 as we have not got the nights to make a go of it in any league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Well, it was unexpected if not entirely surprising, this is the problem when using RR, all the remaining riders have to be on it, and that combined with falls and ef,s meant Stoke held the deficit to just the 1 point, Stoke were admireably led by Ashley Birks, with good support from James Cockle, Ben Reade, Tony Aitkin, and a most impressive, surprising, and i would admit unexpected 7 points from Lee Geary, well done to the lad, staying on the bike is half the battle. For the Heathens we were basically a 3 man Team led superbly by Tom Perry, and supported to varying degrees by Ashley Morris and Darryll Ritchings, though both of them had EF,s when in winning positions, ashes was at the gate, but it was his easiest programmed race, Joe was slightly disapointing at No1 six points aint good enough, Dan Greenwood had a night he will want to forget, whilst JWW was shall we say JWW. Well done to Stoke, and they should be able to finish the job off in the return leg, especially if The Heathens have to use RR, and JWW is unable to ride. Berniev, s various comments; i dont agree with the waste of a season ticket comment, or where he is coming from with the "Do the management really care" thingy ??, and as for the "We havent got the nights to make a go of it in any League" statement then thats news for many of us, maybe he cares to explain his/her thoughts on what was posted. Yes we do seem to have imploded at the death, but that was partly due to injuries again at the wrong time, and Adams loss cant be underestimated, not just from his points scoring perspective, but the Captains role he does so well for us.No It aint over until The Fat lady sings, but she has certainly cleared her throat over the last Two meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 unexpected 7 points from Lee Geary, well done to the lad, staying on the bike is half the battle. Having said that almost every point was gifted What I can`t understand is we have scored 60+ against the IOW three times this year yet chose Stoke . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Having said that almost every point was gifted What I can`t understand is we have scored 60+ against the IOW three times this year yet chose Stoke . Mate; 95% of the fans were amazed by the choice of Stoke over IOW, what the managements thinking behind it was, i cant fathom out, for me IOW was the easier of the Teams, which would have left Mildenhall, with a tougher Team to beat in having Stoke, instead we choose the Tougher fixture, leaving Mildenhall the easier one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builderbob Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 can stoke (who probably are 5th in the 8 team league) go on to win the title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 no stoke r nowhere near as good as mildenhall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 can stoke (who probably are 5th in the 8 team league) go on to win the title Hopefully, if they get through in the 2nd leg, they CAN win the Play Offs,this will then show the Play Offs for what they are a FALSE ending to a seasons racing, and i mean that with No dis respect to Stoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 tbf (which the P/Os are consistently being shown they are NOT), Stoke topped the table last season and missed out on the Final so for them it would be something approaching karma... Mate; 95% of the fans were amazed by the choice of Stoke over IOW, what the managements thinking behind it was, i cant fathom out, for me IOW was the easier of the Teams, which would have left Mildenhall, with a tougher Team to beat in having Stoke, instead we choose the Tougher fixture, leaving Mildenhall the easier one. I would respectfully suggest geography played a part in the choice. Also remember Dudley topped the division and were a countrymile ahead of the third placed team, so any choice other than Mildenhall should have been no problem. Stoke finished their actual league campaign in poor form too so I doubt many would've seen this coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil3065 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Absolutely anything can happen in the remaining play-off fixtures. Mildenhall still have their second leg to race on the Island, Stoke have had a very good result away at Dudley, but Dudley could well go and win the second leg at Stoke.Then anything could happen over the two legged final between whichever two teams make it. Additionally, the weather needs to hold off to allow all the matches to be run. To say its a 'waste of a season ticket' just because you are worried your team might miss out on the trophies is a ridiculous comment. Nothing has been won or lost yet. You can put together a very good side, as the play-off contenders have done this season, but that doesnt guarantee trophies. All the play-off teams have been hopeful of winning trophies this season, but at other times feared they might win nothing. A long way to go still and everything to race for for all four teams in the play-offs. Edited October 10, 2012 by neil3065 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hopefully, if they get through in the 2nd leg, they CAN win the Play Offs,this will then show the Play Offs for what they are a FALSE ending to a seasons racing, and i mean that with No dis respect to Stoke. Of course your going to say that arent you, because it looks like the pot trophy is all thats coming your way again. Bottled it against Buxton a few years back from memory as well. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Of course your going to say that arent you, because it looks like the piss pot trophy is all thats coming your way again. Bottled it against Buxton a few years back from memory as well. Junior As your name says, when are you going to grow up :lol: look back over many postings, and see if i have EVER agreed with Play Offs, give me a sound arguement in favour, except for saying a bigger than usual crowd. I will be up at Stoke tonight weather permitting, will you be watching YOUR Team in the Play Offs ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniev123 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Well, it was unexpected if not entirely surprising, this is the problem when using RR, all the remaining riders have to be on it, and that combined with falls and ef,s meant Stoke held the deficit to just the 1 point, Stoke were admireably led by Ashley Birks, with good support from James Cockle, Ben Reade, Tony Aitkin, and a most impressive, surprising, and i would admit unexpected 7 points from Lee Geary, well done to the lad, staying on the bike is half the battle. For the Heathens we were basically a 3 man Team led superbly by Tom Perry, and supported to varying degrees by Ashley Morris and Darryll Ritchings, though both of them had EF,s when in winning positions, ashes was at the gate, but it was his easiest programmed race, Joe was slightly disapointing at No1 six points aint good enough, Dan Greenwood had a night he will want to forget, whilst JWW was shall we say JWW. Well done to Stoke, and they should be able to finish the job off in the return leg, especially if The Heathens have to use RR, and JWW is unable to ride. Berniev, s various comments; i dont agree with the waste of a season ticket comment, or where he is coming from with the "Do the management really care" thingy ??, and as for the "We havent got the nights to make a go of it in any League" statement then thats news for many of us, maybe he cares to explain his/her thoughts on what was posted. Yes we do seem to have imploded at the death, but that was partly due to injuries again at the wrong time, and Adams loss cant be underestimated, not just from his points scoring perspective, but the Captains role he does so well for us.No It aint over until The Fat lady sings, but she has certainly cleared her throat over the last Two meetings. I said what I said as a Heathens fan! Stoke took advantage of a very, very poor performance. I paid for my season ticket to be let down when it mattered most. Stoke are in the PO but they are 22 league points behind us at the cut off point and the team's combined GS Average is 12 points behind ours! Need I say more? Can't blame injuries.........Adam swopped for the British U21 Champion in the NL should be same for same, JWW should have gone ages ago, BB's various injuries were an awful shame as he was back nearly to the BB of old! If DG had not got his racing head on after the awful crash at Mildy, perhaps he should not have ridden and got his body/head back together for tonight. Even on the Dudley site WP says....."The former Cradley club made hard work of their long awaited home leg on Tuesday at Wolverhampton and wasted points through crashes and mechanical breakdowns." & “We're pretty gutted to be honest because we threw quite a few points away after being in good positions." The managment say they care but do they really? Up to 2000 devoted Heathens fans were let down last night by JH, JWW & DG. TP, AM & DR did their best to gain the win....after all Happiness is 44-43 in your favour. Potters should win at a canter if the same happens tonight, never know tho' Speedway is a funny game and we could just win and meet up with Mildy in the Final. We have done the impossible in the past! As for the nights in the league available......that needs no comment in my opinion........we do not seem to have enough as we always stick to Tuesdays.......what actually is our declared Off Night? Wednesday or Sunday or the next available Tuesday that Ladbrookes allow? There you are greyhound, an explanation of my total frustration as a Heathens fan since the Summer of '59! Frustrations & rant over just as if I were at Cradley Heath's Charlie Wright's on a Thursday night back in the day, Season Ticket for 2013 will be on order soon and off we go again in whatever league my beloved Heathens are in in 2013! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 As your name says, when are you going to grow up :lol: look back over many postings, and see if i have EVER agreed with Play Offs, give me a sound arguement in favour, except for saying a bigger than usual crowd. I will be up at Stoke tonight weather permitting, will you be watching YOUR Team in the Play Offs ?. There are may arguments in favour of the play offs,not just cash wise,they create excitement and drama,something lacking in speedway most of the time,take this evening meetings,you take a one point lead to Stoke,its close,you chaps have nothing to loose it will be a cracker Take EL for example,2 top teams going head to head,the PL panning out nicely for some great meetings,last years NL final,has there been a better finish to a league ever??,great racing and pure drama in the second leg, Coventry /Poole the other year was brilliant speedway The Gps,top top rider on the night doesnt always win the GP but the semis and grand final produce quite brilliant speedway The heathens have everything still to race for against Stoke and there will be another twist,and if im honest i fancy them to just pip Stoke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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