montie Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Holder should have gone no doubt about it,but over the season he has been the best rider and deserves to be World Champ so well done to him Just wish someone had hit his waste of a work permit brother when he got involved in something he shouldnt have Great GP to finish with and congrats to Holder,deserved what he now has,a great rider he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I thought Holder should have gone (and I wanted him to be champ) but my son thought it was the correct decision. Difficult call and nowhere near as obvious as some on here are saying imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Holder should have gone no doubt about it,but over the season he has been the best rider and deserves to be World Champ so well done to him I agree with this, I don't mind CH as champion just the way the referee helped him on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 seem to remember Mr P taking 'a dive' in one of the recent GP's when holder quite legitimately passed him, meaning holder was excluded? maybe 'what goes around comes around'? one thing is for sure, over a full seasons competition (rather than a one off championship) the best, most consistent competitor invariably comes out on top... well done chris holder,..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixy230 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Holder should have gone, if it was the other way round we all (well most!) know that Nikki would have been excluded! I honestly thought that Holder had fell into / rode into Nikkis perfectly laid and executed trap! Unlucky Nikki you were robbed! Well done Holder you were the fastest and a deserving Champion! But sort out your dodgy hangers on before they spoil it for you (Again Nikki played up to them and they reacted badly, pushing etc etc) Who's fault? Not Nikki on camera we saw a chat and a tap/pat and a bad reaction from Team Holder?!?!? I cant believe a rider at this level is not excluded for the bad behaviour of his team/pit crew or whoever the idiots pushing Nikki around were! (What were they doing on the track?!?!?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Holder took Nicki off, no matter what way you look at it, regardless of first bend or home straight lap 3....Nicki gated and clamped him, a perfect move by any rider from trap 2....holder should have backed off ( easy to say in world final I know) but he's very fortunate as it could have easily cost him the title and I think many refs would have excluded him...fair play though he's been good all year. Nice to see Lindback win, his performances since monster sponsorship has well improved...outsider for next year if he can be a bit more consistent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Nice to see Lindback win, his performances since monster sponsorship has well improved...outsider for next year if he can be a bit more consistent. He is an enigma, but for the first time, tonight I saw a real all round performance from Lindback. In previous years, and for parts of this year too Lindback would gate and look unbeatable, but would have a bad first bend and look no better than Harris. Yet tonight, he was racing hard, and really impressed me tonight. As you say, if he can be more consistent, who knows, he could be up there next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 1st bend bunching both riders not giving an inch they touch going into the corner. Causing holder to straighten up as a result running Into pedersen right call by the ref Yep agree with that. I'm just glad all four were back in the re-run as it would have been the biggest disappointing anti-climax ever if Holder had been excluded. Best decision by the referee to let the battle be fought out on the track. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lino wolf Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Yep agree with that. I'm just glad all four were back in the re-run as it would have been the biggest disappointing anti-climax ever if Holder had been excluded. Best decision by the referee to let the battle be fought out on the track. anti climax if pedersen needed to win or come 2nd In the final to be world champion ? Plus there would have been a chance of holder and pedersen finishing on the same points ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Doesnt matter what you arm chair experts think. Theres only one person who matters and that was the ref. Chris Holder is the new world champion. Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Go you Aussie. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew2 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 If the roles had been reversed would we have heard a Danish voice saying he put the bike down too easily ya know?? Remember AJ in Mallila. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrhbig Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Perfectly executed bike lay down by Nicki, followed by the hand clap , smile, and probably the thought , "Yes!!, I ve got him out, now it will be mine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obrien48 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Perfectly executed bike lay down by Nicki, followed by the hand clap , smile, and probably the thought , "Yes!!, I ve got him out, now it will be mine. Don't forget the delayed footballer-esque holding of the thigh and pretending to be injured! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougieD Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Very lucky Mr Holder, very very lucky indeedy .... as a earlier poster said shame the great unwashed of Australia had to spoil it with the squabble ...Nicki was giving Chris stick and Noddy was just laughing at him ,, then enter the convicts and all hell breaks loose Holder should have been excluded for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Perfectly executed bike lay down by Nicki, followed by the hand clap , smile, and probably the thought , "Yes!!, I ve got him out, now it will be mine. bike lay down....give over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Holder, Holder, world champion. Maybe you poms can claim him , go back a few hundred years to the convict days and stake a claim. Will be the closest you lot get to having a world champion. Holder, Holder, Yesssssssssssssssssssssss. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Well, I will disagree with the majority and say that the ref made the correct decision. Pedersen wasn't clear of Holder and there's a difference between clamping an opponent and running them onto the centre green which is what Nicki tried to do. Holder, quite rightly, wasn't having it and the inevitable collision ensued. It was just an untidy first bend incident and better to let them rerun and decide matters over 4 laps. As for the handbags at the pit gate, brilliant, let's have more of this. It works for ice hockey so why not? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Perfectly executed bike lay down by Nicki, followed by the hand clap , smile, and probably the thought , "Yes!!, I ve got him out, now it will be mine. Why lay the bike down if the person that you want to win over is behind you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougieD Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Holder, Holder, world champion. Maybe you poms can claim him , go back a few hundred years to the convict days and stake a claim. Will be the closest you lot get to having a world champion. Holder, Holder, Yesssssssssssssssssssssss. Junior Well we can see why your called "Junior" I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Holder should have been excluded. We all complain about the Polish ref, Grodski or something like that, for making the wrong call but at least he doesn't bottle it and makes a call. Ackroyd's non-decision is up there with 'The Worlds's Best' ,Tony Steele's non-decision when he bottled excluding a rider after an incident on the second or third lap a few years back and allowed both riders back into the rerun. Shameful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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