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The rain may have just helped Lakeside though. After all, their team was illegal.

 

No, the rules apparently (I say apparently because it's not in the rule book!) say that if a riders EL fixture was programmed before his PL fixture he rides in the EL fixture - Jason Doyle rode at Lakeside for Brum a couple of weeks ago didn't he while Somerset had to sue a guest. So as Mears Lakeside meeting on Friday has been programmed since February and his PL meeting for only a week, the EL meeting takes priority.

 

I am not sure that rule that's not in the rule book applies. Fortunately the Mad Hatter will be hosting one of his tea parties behind the second bend burger bar on Monday and will be pleased to answer any queries on rules that are not in the rule book,

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I am not sure that rule that's not in the rule book applies. Fortunately the Mad Hatter will be hosting one of his tea parties behind the second bend burger bar on Monday and will be pleased to answer any queries on rules that are not in the rule book,

I'm with you on this. I think it's wrong and I don't see how Jason Doyle was allowed to ride at Lakeside for Birmingham but the fact that not 1 of the 4 teams involved/effected suggests there's a supplementary regulation somewhere.
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I'm with you on this. I think it's wrong and I don't see how Jason Doyle was allowed to ride at Lakeside for Birmingham but the fact that not 1 of the 4 teams involved/effected suggests there's a supplementary regulation somewhere.

Not sure if there's an actual rule but the process is as follows:

 

PL takes precedence for published fixtures.

For re arranged fixture clashes the club which published the fixture first gets priority.

 

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Not sure if there's an actual rule but the process is as follows:

 

PL takes precedence for published fixtures.

For re arranged fixture clashes the club which published the fixture first gets priority.

 

I think that is the answer, in fact I think someone posted to that effect on one of the other threads. Considering Brum took a league point out of that match it seems highly likely that Lakeside would have protested at Doyle's inclusion if it was illegal.

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I think that is the answer, in fact I think someone posted to that effect on one of the other threads. Considering Brum took a league point out of that match it seems highly likely that Lakeside would have protested at Doyle's inclusion if it was illegal.

Right. So if Doyles inclusion was legal, it seems that the first fixture takes priority, for Mear, that was Lakesides meetings. Irrelevant now anyway.

 

Plus it's not a rule anyway, so Lakeside should have protested. It's just been made up by Birmingham and people seem to have believed it.

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Right. So if Doyles inclusion was legal, it seems that the first fixture takes priority, for Mear, that was Lakesides meetings. Irrelevant now anyway.

 

Plus it's not a rule anyway, so Lakeside should have protested. It's just been made up by Birmingham and people seem to have believed it.

 

 

Just checked and it seems you already raised this point on the Lakeside -v- Brum Thread and somebody answered it by giving a link to the Somerset website that said Klindt had been booked to replace Doyle because EL fixtures take precedence over re-arranged Pl fixtures. I can't find it in the regulations either but it seems to be a process or convention as Pirate Nick suggests. I can check with the Mad Hatter if you like but he usually says discuss it with the nearest brick wall and the BSPA will abide by its decision.

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From the Lakeside website :-

 

 

The Vortex Lakeside Hammers have moved to bolster their challenge for a place in the Sky Sports Elite League Play Offs with the addition to the team of Rye House’s Tyson Nelson, who will make his debut this Friday, 26th July, in the home clash against King’s Lynn Stars.

 

Nelson, the 20 year old from Australia, joins the team as a Double Up rider replacing fellow Australian Kevin Doolan and will be under the guidance of the all time Hammers legend Andrew Silver.

 

Jon Cook, the Vortex Hammers co Promoter explained: “We feel we have reached the stage of the year where to reach the Play Offs we need a wildcard and Tyson is it. He’s in tremendous form of late and absolutely lit up the Raceway when he appeared for us as a guest in the match against Wolverhampton last month and I know the fans will be very excited about his addition to the team.

 

I would like to thank Len Silver from Rye House for agreeing to the move and also thank Kev (Doolan) for his efforts and his understanding of the situation.”

 

 

 

I am not sure what to make of this. Jon Cook does have a habit of signing riders on the basis of one decent meeting. Sometimes it works and sometimes it backfires. It didn't really work with Kyle LeGault and it looks like he is getting his fingers burned again with Seb Ulamek who overall has looked too slow for a third heatleader even when he gates. Still the Lakeside announcement is spot on when it says Tyson lit the Raceway up when he guested against Wolves and I hope he does well. Certainly seems to have talent. Kevin Doolan does seem to have gone off the boil.

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The Pirates don't make any panic signings then!

 

Nelson is a doubling-up reserve who did well in his guest appearance - why not wait until you have more to go on before commenting negatively.

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Oh yes we have a long history of panic signings and most of them don't work, just would have thought Doolan was still a better option at the moment.

 

Doolan has generally been doing a decent solid job, and certainly better than off-form Rob Mear who he replaced but he has not done anything really special. He flopped very badly in the home match against Swindon. If he had even rode up to his average Lakeside could probably have won the match. In short Doolan is a reasonable reserve but not one to pull something special out of the bag when the pressure is on. That's not a criticism but you need something extra to be serious play-off contenders. On top of that, even Doolan's PL team manager has been hinting that Kev has been taking so many guest bookings he hasn't had time in between to prepare his bikes properly. Whether that is true or not I don't know but certainly his form doesn't seem to be what it was when he was first signed.

 

Nelson is to some extent a bit of a gamble that could backfire or could pay-off. It is really all based on a great tear-up he had with Fast Freddie when he guested for the Hammers against Wolves. A world class rider who was scoring well that night against a PL rider on his first visit do the track and Tyson really gave Fred a run for his money before Fred took control. An exceptional and gutsy performance from the 20-year old. The $64,000 question is whether he can repeat that sort of ride on a fairly regular basis ? I think Lakeside have to give it a try although their early season performances have made the play-offs a difficult task now and on top of that Nelson will be unavailable for one or two key meetings notably Eastbourne away. The fear is that it will be a repeat of Kyle Legault who was signed up after a fantastic win over Scott Nicholls then went backwards.

 

I suppose the other thing is that Tyson is showing promise and there will be other clubs interested in him for 2014 so its as well to give him a try now with a view to next year if he does ok.

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