Najjer Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Cracking results for the Rebels, just need to hope Leicester on their home track get the better of Newcastle and we should be set for the final. As Newman is reserve he could have taken 7 rides if needed. James was moving at starts on Friday, I think it's frustration as his bikes are not working. Let's be honest, he's been doing it all season and has been caught out so many times I've lost count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 And so the fortune of having a full team at playoff time is shown to the detriment of the true league champions Wondered how long that would take to crop up whilst i don't dis-agree with you everybody knew what the rules were at the start off the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinosaur Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 newcastle have thought more about the convenience factor of arranging these matches with Somerset, rather than thinking about the best route to win the premier league, poor, very poor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) Only thing that is poor is that we went into the end of the season with more or less a 5 man team after scrambling over the line....it was never going to last, ESP in double headers...it must be months now we've carried rr....putting massive strain on all the others who basically had to perform constantly....against the best we were always going to find it hard imo No matter who we had at reserve would score a boat load, but our top end wasn't strong enough when it mattered...still a chance though, it's not over yet and we've done far better than anyone could imagine losing our 2 trump cards. Edited October 1, 2012 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Only thing that is poor is that we went into the end of the season with more or less a 5 man team after scrambling over the line....it was never going to last, ESP in double headers...it must be months now we've carried rr....putting massive strain on all the others who basically had to perform constantly....against the best we were always going to find it hard imo Richie has tweeted that his doctor thinks he may need another operation as the bone is not growing together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Great performance from the Rebels,especially Jason Doyle who has been immense all season with us and Swindon . I agree that the play offs are a joke the team that is top at the end should be crowned Champions, I certainly would not have liked it had the positions been reversed. What there can be no question about however is that Somerset were the better team over the four matches and deserved their success.Hopefully the Rebels can go on and pick up some silverware which will reward a good effort by everyone involved with club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Great performance from the Rebels,especially Jason Doyle who has been immense all season with us and Swindon . I agree that the play offs are a joke the team that is top at the end should be crowned Champions, I certainly would not have liked it had the positions been reversed. What there can be no question about however is that Somerset were the better team over the four matches and deserved their success.Hopefully the Rebels can go on and pick up some silverware which will reward a good effort by everyone involved with club. they should be really be the better team though against our team....in fact the team you have you shouldn't lose a meeting....speedway ain't on paper though eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 I must say Congratulations to Somerset on progressing in the Cup - Good Luck to them. ........................now for the League 'Play Off' Meeting. Once again I have to complain about Speedway and it's lack of credibility. First of all - we have to win the League for a second timein the 'Play Offs' - bloody stupid. Secondly the fact that we lost a vital Point last night because of the ridiculous Double Points System. Had Somerset not had the Tactical Ride - the 'Diamonds' would have won by the seven Points required to take the full Three Points. HOW MUCH LONGER IS THIS BLOODY STUPID SYSTEM going to be allowed to continue? I really do HATE this System and it is turning me off Speedway. It doesn't matter whether it is the Home Team or the Away Team that benefit - I HATE it. It is unfair, gives a false impression and could now have cost us the Premier League Title after it's second running (Play Offs).. I have spoken about this to a lot of Supporters, from both Home and Away Teams, and apart from the odd person, the vast majority are against this Rule. To me it is about time that Speedway got itself in to the real World where most people believe in fair play and a level playing field. By Somerset having a Double Points Ride (when Newcastle never had the chance of a Tactical Ride). they ''won' the necessary points to clinche a precious League Point.. How pathetic is that? Regarding the 'Play Offs' I have only one thing to mention. A couple of years ago Poole were TWENTY SIX Points ahead in the Elite League. Come the 'Play Offs' they have a couple of 'off nights' and are beaten by Coventry who are declared League Champions - what a JOKE. I sometimes wonder who is running Speedway - the BSPA - or - SKY Television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontrader Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Two points Firstly, I think the play offs are a good idea but not a mini league. Just have top four in two semi finals and a final. The mini league means that one team will be left waiting for the result from the other twos match to see who qualifies. Secondly its a busy time of the season for the riders and their machinery, especially those doubling up with Elite Legue clubs. It will be interesting to see how the doubling up riders and their machinery from both of last nights teams, fare in tonights elite league play offs and league matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) 'The play offs',,, they can just reward failure and penalise success,,, but is'nt that typical of this countries culture now ? I bet the man/men who invented the league system are turning in their grave/s. Fair play to Somerset, they were the better team, and IMO, not dissing Ben, Newcastle have been carrying a guest at reserve far to long, as no NL guest has had time to get to know the track,,, Edited October 1, 2012 by ruffdiamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 'The play offs',,, they can just reward failure and penalise success,,, but is'nt that typical of this countries culture now ? I bet the man/men who invented the league system are turning in their grave/s. Fair play to Somerset, they were the better team, and IMO, not dissing Ben, Newcastle have been carrying a guest at reserve far to long, as no NL guest has had time to get to know the track,,, Good point, well made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Also, IMO, he definately took Jesper B off early on when on a 1-5, to try and see if he could do any better himself !!! I've read some rubbish in my time, but this must rank as one of the most stupid things I have ever read !! Do you really think that a rider would take his own team mate out in an important match, and risk injuring him and possibly put him out for the remainder of the match or longer, just to give that same rider he was taking out, and possibly injuring, a better chance in a re-run ? I think you must have been at the Broon !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I've read some rubbish in my time, but this must rank as one of the most stupid things I have ever read !! Do you really think that a rider would take his own team mate out in an important match, and risk injuring him and possibly put him out for the remainder of the match or longer, just to give that same rider he was taking out, and possibly injuring, a better chance in a re-run ? I think you must have been at the Broon !! lol, well,,, thats even stupiderer,,, I don't even like Broon !!! we all see different things,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Once again I have to complain about Speedway and it's lack of credibility. First of all - we have to win the League for a second timein the 'Play Offs' - bloody stupid. Secondly the fact that we lost a vital Point last night because of the ridiculous Double Points System. Had Somerset not had the Tactical Ride - the 'Diamonds' would have won by the seven Points required to take the full Three Points. HOW MUCH LONGER IS THIS BLOODY STUPID SYSTEM going to be allowed to continue? . . i agree,if it wasnt for the tac ride you would have come second in the league did you no that!!!!! playoff would be great then i guess!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travertine Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Newcastle have thought more about the convenience factor of arranging these matches with Somerset, rather than thinking about the best route to win the premier league, poor, very poor I don't think the convenience factor should've come into it - for my mind, Newcastle made a very poor selection when choosing opponents for their group. They had both choices, and Leicester were a certainty, but then to pick Somerset out of the remaining teams? They've still got the KO Cup, and were beaten by a better team in the League cup, but if they fail to win the league, I think you'll find that was the point that saw their hopes disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 i agree,if it wasnt for the tac ride you would have come second in the league did you no that!!!!! playoff would be great then i guess!! have you sat and worked it all out ?,, great stuff :-) how would the whole league of finished without the 'tac-ride' ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 What was the crowd like on Sunday??,at Scunny it wasnt the best with to be expected low numbers of away fans travelling down 4hrs on a sunday night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I really don't know why a few on here are saying we shouldn't have picked Somerset and it was for convenience only. The Diamonds lost by just 3 points at the Oak Tree Arena (48-45) and maybe could and should have actually won that match and beat them at Brough 51-43. If that had been in the Play-offs then we would have had an away point and all 3 home points and I doubt people would be complaining. If's and but's, I know, but there is another way of thinking about why the Diamonds chose Somerset, rather than Workington (who we have to meet in the KOC, so same situation as Somerset) or Edinburgh, who, I am sure most will agree, were the team to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idanthyrsus Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 For the love of God, what "repercussions" do you want for a bit of pantomime tomfoolery? So he kicked the pit gate - any reason it wasn't opened for him anyway? - and shoved a few folk out of the way - why was anyone from the home side getting involved anyway other than causing a bit of mischief, the Somerset management & riders were coping perfectly well - while having a bit of a strop. All of which was made funnier for anyone with a grasp of the rules (so, not many then) that once he had finished the strop, he was going to have to come back out & take his third ride . So what? It warmed up a cool evening and provided a bit of exercise for the knuckle-dragging obese element (so, quite a few then), dragging their carcases along the terracing to the pits fence to presumably pass on their tactical advice & condolences to Wright, having inadvertedly fallen foul of the official's ire. Maybe they should fine the ass off him as an example to others.Then it can be drummed into riders that emotion - even when it's comical - has no place in the sport. As much as any recently written rule, the lack of "character", "incidents" & "pantomime villany" is responsible for the acres of concrete on show whenever a speedway crowd gathers on a terracing. Get of your high horse - where did I say there SHOULD be repercussions? I said it would be interesting to see if there were any. As long as nobody was endangered then it's OK as far as I'm concerned, if his actions were dangerous or threatened anybody's safety he should be fined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I really don't know why a few on here are saying we shouldn't have picked Somerset and it was for convenience only. The Diamonds lost by just 3 points at the Oak Tree Arena (48-45) and maybe could and should have actually won that match and beat them at Brough 51-43. If that had been in the Play-offs then we would have had an away point and all 3 home points and I doubt people would be complaining. If's and but's, I know, but there is another way of thinking about why the Diamonds chose Somerset, rather than Workington (who we have to meet in the KOC, so same situation as Somerset) or Edinburgh, who, I am sure most will agree, were the team to avoid. I'd also have picked Somerset. People seem to be forgetting that we were hammered 60+ by Edinburgh, whereas like you say, we picked up a league point from Somerset (when we should have got a draw!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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