bigcatdiary Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Why spunk a couple of grand away on pointless away racesuits then? If only they were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Indeed, and Swindon have come out with what they wanted. If only Peterborough hadn't been so bloody-minded this whole sorry episode could have been avoided. What's bloody-minded got to do with it? That's why the BSPA MC exist, well in theory anyway! On January 10 it was reported that Harkess will rule on the protracted transfers at a BSPA management committee meeting on Tuesday (Jan 15 we assume). If Harkess & co had a clue then they could have put an end to it there or at least on Feb 15 when Andersen was allegedly discussed. Edited March 10, 2013 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 If Swindon supposedly only budgeted to make one purchase for this season, having already agreed to buy Morris, why put a bid on the table to initially buy Hans? OK, it was reportedly very quickly withdrawn - no doubt because the MC ruled that Batch had to be purchased!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trubruv Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 What's bloody-minded got to do with it? That's why the BSPA MC exist, well in theory anyway! On January 10 it was reported that Harkess will rule on the protracted transfers at a BSPA management committee meeting on Tuesday (Jan 15 we assume). If Harkess & co had a clue then they could have put an end to it there or at least on Feb 15 when Andersen was allegedly discussed. What frustrates me is all of the cloak and dagger that goes on with the bspa etc, just put your findings and decissions in the public domain then we can all stop guessing! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzCagney Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Bloody minded is when you are clearly not going to get your own way yet you continue to muck along, in a sulky strop, holding out hope that it will all go your way. Far better to see it how it is and then make the best of it. Look, we are all going to be tribal about this so there is very little point in continuing the conversation. If Swindon are seen to be in the wrong then they will have to pay the penalty. I'm sure they have considered this. I'd have preferred they'd just paid the money, if only to shut you Peterborough fans up, but they saw a way out and, not unsurprisingly, took it. As I say, its hard to blame them if Peterborough didn't want to play ball. We'll see what happens I guess but all I know is Troy looked good in purple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 We'll see what happens I guess but all I know is Troy looked good in purple. well he can be a bit of a dick, at times!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Red Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 BREAKING NEWS: They (the BSPA) are going to let Troy ride for Swindon all season for nothing, but if they happen to finish higher than Poole they will have all of their results removed to ensure that Poole get the advantage of a free pass into the one legged Final at Wimborne Road. You heard it here first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) What frustrates me is all of the cloak and dagger that goes on with the bspa etc, just put your findings and decissions in the public domain then we can all stop guessing! That's the bottom line isn't it. Problem being as I see it is that they make it up as they go along and have been inconsistent for so long that someone will always point to when they didn't follow that ruling before. They need to draw a line and say that from now on (irrespective of what's gone before) this is what happens in such situations and they need to stick to it without any nod and a wink rules and deadlines. They might get some respect then and won't that also be better for promoters, riders and fans, not to mention the credibility of the sport. Edited March 10, 2013 by Crump99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Yes ER bored of most of the crap typed on here so whats the bloody point!?! R.E. racesuits i can indeed confirm the second set of away kevlars were indeed purchased by Excalibur Communications as it was at there request as part of the sponsorship package so they footed the bill. Hardly rocket science to figure that one out is it? At the end of the day they are very forward thinking and like things done properly thats another reason why they sponsor the Stratton banks at the CG with a bleeding great sign showing that...good for them and also good for Rosco and co gaining the other sponsor's and Team Partner's and i agree Troy does look tidy in purple...could gain a new nickname once the copyrite of UK tabloids regarding the original 'Purple Pain'.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 If Swindon supposedly only budgeted to make one purchase for this season, having already agreed to buy Morris, why put a bid on the table to initially buy Hans? OK, it was reportedly very quickly withdrawn - no doubt because the MC ruled that Batch had to be purchased!! You not worked it out? IMHO - It was a test to see if Peterborough seriously wanted to use Hans or not and surprise, surprise - they didn't Less than a week to go for my first fix of Speedway 2013 - hope it warms up and stays dry! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Hunter Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 That's the bottom line isn't it. Problem being as I see it is that they make it up as they go along and have been inconsistent for so long that someone will always point to when they didn't follow that ruling before. They need to draw a line and say that from now on (irrespective of what's gone before) this is what happens in such situations and they need to stick to it without any nod and a wink rules and deadlines. They might get some respect then and won't that also be better for promoters, riders and fans, not to mention the credibility of the sport. Excellent post Crump99, but do you honestly expect them to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Excellent post Crump99, but do you honestly expect them to do it? Not a bloody chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Excellent post Crump99, but do you honestly expect them to do it? Depends in what form they want the sport to progress I suppose and whether they like throwing their money down the toilet. They might wake up when the only speedway we have is a 12 team National League with few fans and still losing money - we live in hope, but not much. Edited March 10, 2013 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) So what exactly does this mean: SWINDON Robins believe the winter-long saga surrounding Troy Batchelor has come to an end after he was named in their side for 2013. The Elite League champions announced the Australian as part of their side on March 2 following the passing of the agreed Elite League signing deadline on March 1, which allows any unsigned riders to move on. However, there has been confusion as the move has yet to be ratified by the BSPA. ... From Swindon Advertiser this morning. Edited March 11, 2013 by dj350z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) So what exactly does this mean: SWINDON Robins believe the winter-long saga surrounding Troy Batchelor has come to an end after he was named in their side for 2013. The Elite League champions announced the Australian as part of their side on March 2 following the passing of the agreed Elite League signing deadline on March 1, which allows any unsigned riders to move on loan. However, there has been confusion as the move has yet to be ratified by the BSPA. ... From Swindon Advertiser this morning. It means that Swindon can now pay Glasgow for Morris which is good news. I'm surprised they didn't mention it in their quote, it would have been good PR for Swindon. But it doesn't really tell us anything we don't know already. Of course Batchelor will be riding for Swindon. What we don't know is whether Swindon will suffer any sanctions over their methods this winter. There is more to this than Swindon are choosing to let on in the press releases. 1st March is totally irrelevant as Peterborough named their full team in January. Therefore, something is different about this case, and we all know what this is. I don't actually agree with the fact Swindon were being forced to purchase Batchelor. However, I believe Swindon's methods were pretty underhand. The NFL is currently in a three day 'legitimate tampering' phase. Teams may approach the agents of free agent players. However, they are not even allowed to arrange flights to discuss terms until the official signing period ends tomorrow. The NFL has warned the teams that any team abusing this will be treated harshly. The teams are very scared of putting a foot wrong. Oh how speedway could do with that kind of leadership. Edited March 11, 2013 by 500cc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 So what exactly does this mean: SWINDON Robins believe the winter-long saga surrounding Troy Batchelor has come to an end after he was named in their side for 2013. The Elite League champions announced the Australian as part of their side on March 2 following the passing of the agreed Elite League signing deadline on March 1, which allows any unsigned riders to move on. However, there has been confusion as the move has yet to be ratified by the BSPA. ... From Swindon Advertiser this morning. It's just paving the way to the article about the other made up Elite League deadline that announced sides not ratified by the BSPA before April 1 become official anyway on April 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Patchett has been told this by an MC member, Patchett has been told that by an MC member, Patchett has been informed.... That's what's wrong with this shambles of a 'sport'. The sport's ruling body should not be made up of mates, acquaintances and back-scratching associates making 'promises' to one side or the other whilst a matter is still on-going nor should they be open to approach over matters still to be decided. Patchett should not have been told anything more than Peterborough have been, officially or not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Patchett has been told this by an MC member, Patchett has been told that by an MC member, Patchett has been informed.... That's what's wrong with this shambles of a 'sport'. The sport's ruling body should not be made up of mates, acquaintances and back-scratching associates making 'promises' to one side or the other whilst a matter is still on-going nor should they be open to approach over matters still to be decided. Patchett should not have been told anything more than Peterborough have been, officially or not. Which is EXACTLY what caused a lot of the problems this winter. Who remembers Harkess saying the promoters would ring around MC members until they got the answer they wanted. And here we go again. Does anybody actually manage at BSPA. Perhaps they are all preparing their sketches for Friday night on the BBC. Harkess should have sent an official memo to all promotes that they were no longer allowed to quote that an individual MC member verbally told them about a decision. But he (presumably) hasn't has he 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Which is EXACTLY what caused a lot of the problems this winter. Who remembers Harkess saying the promoters would ring around MC members until they got the answer they wanted. And here we go again. Does anybody actually manage at BSPA. Perhaps they are all preparing their sketches for Friday night on the BBC. Harkess should have sent an official memo to all promotes that they were no longer allowed to quote that an individual MC member verbally told them about a decision. But he (presumably) hasn't has he The problem is the complete lack of anything coming out of the BSPA they run the whole thing in complete secrecy and that's the real problem, if they were up front and open with everything half the aggravation would not exist. The whole organisation lives in the dark age which is why the sport in this country is on its knees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but in addition to the SCB rulebook, isn't there also a seperate 'Code of Conduct' handbook (or whatever) that is supposed to cover how members of the BSPA (ie the Promoters) are expected to deal with each other?! Whilst fans are entitled to expect public confirmations/statements on issues that break the SCB rules, surely anything that happens against the BSPA's 'Code of Conduct' is likely to remain private between the respective promotions and BSPA MC - unless of course individual members choose to 'go public' (officially or unofficially) with their side of the story, to help sway/support their argument. In this long drawn out saga, there is no way that Batch won't be allowed to ride for Swindon, but the BSPA MC should simply announce that they have taken whatever appropriate action they feel is necessary against the offending promotion(s) together with some sort of warning as to their 'future conduct'!! Edited March 11, 2013 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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