dj350z Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 From Swindon Adver: DOUBTS have surfaced over Polish reserve Kacper Gomolski’s position with the Swindon Robins. The youngster had been signed on loan from Peterborough to join Brit Ashley Birks in the Elite League champions’ bottom two for the defence of their title, but the club have yet to receive start permission from his Polish side Tarnow via the BSPA. The Ekstraliga champions have made Gomolski their number one junior for 2013 in a league with a Sunday raceday, but with their Thursday reschedule day clashing with the Robins’ regular race night, Tarnow will only give the rider start permission on a weekly basis during the season. That would mean Swindon would not know if the rider was available for a Thursday meeting until the previous Sunday evening. An international calendar was put in place by the FIM which detailed fixtures in the British, Polish, Swedish and Danish leagues, with those fixtures in place and agreed between the clubs. The FIM stated if any conflicts arise following the completion of the list, the club named in the fixture first, in this case the Robins, should be given priority. The Robins are now considering their options, much to the frustration of co-owner Gary Patchett. “We are disappointed, but Tarnow have history in this respect and they seem to have no regard for what has been put in place by the FIM or by their federation,” he said. “If the club can’t abide by the protocol set-out by their federation then something needs to be done, but we can’t force someone to ride here, even though we know this situation has nothing to do with Kacper.” Gomolski does have start permission for tomorrow’s Elite Shield first-leg with Poole at Blunsdon, as well as the second leg the following day, however Birks is set to miss the away leg due to commitments with Scunthorpe and will be replaced by Somerset’s Kyle Newman. Both Newman and his fellow Rebels rider Nick Morris will then travel straight from Wimborne Road to Somerset after the meeting for the Premier League club’s clash with Plymouth. The Robins have confirmed tomorrow’s meeting has beaten the freezing temperatures and is set to go ahead, with all children under 11 admitted free and the first 100 young fans handed a free air horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 From Swindon Adver: DOUBTS have surfaced over Polish reserve Kacper Gomolski’s position with the Swindon Robins. The youngster had been signed on loan from Peterborough to join Brit Ashley Birks in the Elite League champions’ bottom two for the defence of their title, but the club have yet to receive start permission from his Polish side Tarnow via the BSPA. The Ekstraliga champions have made Gomolski their number one junior for 2013 in a league with a Sunday raceday, but with their Thursday reschedule day clashing with the Robins’ regular race night, Tarnow will only give the rider start permission on a weekly basis during the season. That would mean Swindon would not know if the rider was available for a Thursday meeting until the previous Sunday evening. An international calendar was put in place by the FIM which detailed fixtures in the British, Polish, Swedish and Danish leagues, with those fixtures in place and agreed between the clubs. The FIM stated if any conflicts arise following the completion of the list, the club named in the fixture first, in this case the Robins, should be given priority. The Robins are now considering their options, much to the frustration of co-owner Gary Patchett. “We are disappointed, but Tarnow have history in this respect and they seem to have no regard for what has been put in place by the FIM or by their federation,” he said. “If the club can’t abide by the protocol set-out by their federation then something needs to be done, but we can’t force someone to ride here, even though we know this situation has nothing to do with Kacper.” Gomolski does have start permission for tomorrow’s Elite Shield first-leg with Poole at Blunsdon, as well as the second leg the following day, however Birks is set to miss the away leg due to commitments with Scunthorpe and will be replaced by Somerset’s Kyle Newman. Both Newman and his fellow Rebels rider Nick Morris will then travel straight from Wimborne Road to Somerset after the meeting for the Premier League club’s clash with Plymouth. The Robins have confirmed tomorrow’s meeting has beaten the freezing temperatures and is set to go ahead, with all children under 11 admitted free and the first 100 young fans handed a free air horn. I can't see any subtle plan but then again I wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Subtle plans are here again!" I smell something fishy, and I'm not talking about the contents of Patchett's apple crumble. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Birks is set to miss the away leg due to commitments with Scunthorpe and will be replaced by Somerset’s Kyle Newman. Both Newman and his fellow Rebels rider Nick Morris will then travel straight from Wimborne Road to Somerset after the meeting for the Premier League club’s clash with Plymouth. Which is why only having one double upper in each position is a crap idea. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Which is why only having one double upper in each position is a crap idea. You're right, there shouldn't be any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 You're right, there shouldn't be any. True. But if you're going to have them, then have 2 sharing instead of one who is missing half the time. If that's not forcing guests upon the sport I don't know what is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irk Deflector Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 From Swindon Adver: The Robins are now considering their options, much to the frustration of co-owner Gary Patchett. “We are disappointed, but Tarnow have history in this respect and they seem to have no regard for what has been put in place by the FIM or by their federation,” he said. “If the club can’t abide by the protocol set-out by their federation then something needs to be done, but we can’t force someone to ride here, even though we know this situation has nothing to do with Kacper.” 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Time to get Pavlic reassessed as a 4 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 From Swindon Adver: “We are disappointed, but Tarnow have history in this respect and they seem to have no regard for what has been put in place by the FIM or by their federation,” he said. “If the club can’t abide by the protocol set-out by their federation then something needs to be done, but we can’t force someone to ride here, even though we know this situation has nothing to do with Kacper.” In fairness to Tarnow, Swindon have only quoted part of the rule. It is correct that these protocol's exist. However, there is a subsequent regulation that as of 1st March all protocol's established by a federation can be superceded by a club. It is accepted that this may override any decision previously made by the federation, and any club effected has no right of appeal. Hopefully if Swindon replace Gomolski, they will still pay the loan fee to Peterborough, unless Gomolski signs for another EL team. Peterborough agreed to loan one of their assets to Swindon in good faith, and therefore had to refuse any other offers for him. Poole appeared to be interested and they have a good relationship with Polish clubs, probably helped by their Wednesday race night. In contrast, Swindon have a very poor recent record with Poles, so Peterborough deserve credit for allowing Swindon to handle one of their prize assets, particularly as teams will be wary of using this asset in the future as it looking like it will be a little tarnished as a result of the loan. It is not Peterborough's fault that Swindon have failed to resolve this with Tarnow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Sounds like some plain old research and planning was absent before Gomolski was signed. Cant recall P'boro having many problems with him in 2011. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Fuss over nothing really ...the polish team have a home match every two weeks then that home match has to be called off and then be e run on a Thursday when Swindon have a match ...I expect it might happen once maybe twice the same as any other season when you sign a pole ,not sure are be trying to replace him because of it . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 In fairness to Tarnow, Swindon have only quoted part of the rule. It is correct that these protocol's exist. However, there is a subsequent regulation that as of 1st March all protocol's established by a federation can be superceded by a club. It is accepted that this may override any decision previously made by the federation, and any club effected has no right of appeal. Hopefully if Swindon replace Gomolski, they will still pay the loan fee to Peterborough, unless Gomolski signs for another EL team. Peterborough agreed to loan one of their assets to Swindon in good faith, and therefore had to refuse any other offers for him. Poole appeared to be interested and they have a good relationship with Polish clubs, probably helped by their Wednesday race night. In contrast, Swindon have a very poor recent record with Poles, so Peterborough deserve credit for allowing Swindon to handle one of their prize assets, particularly as teams will be wary of using this asset in the future as it looking like it will be a little tarnished as a result of the loan. It is not Peterborough's fault that Swindon have failed to resolve this with Tarnow. You are having a laugh!! If Gomolski doesn't stay then I would guess Peterborough can whistle for any loan fee! Everyone has acted in good faith as you put it but if you don't take delivery of the goods as agreed then no payment would be due - or at least a significantly reduced payment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 8-page On Track season preview supplement in tomorrows Adver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 In fairness to Tarnow, Swindon have only quoted part of the rule. It is correct that these protocol's exist. However, there is a subsequent regulation that as of 1st March all protocol's established by a federation can be superceded by a club. It is accepted that this may override any decision previously made by the federation, and any club effected has no right of appeal. Hopefully if Swindon replace Gomolski, they will still pay the loan fee to Peterborough, unless Gomolski signs for another EL team. Peterborough agreed to loan one of their assets to Swindon in good faith, and therefore had to refuse any other offers for him. Poole appeared to be interested and they have a good relationship with Polish clubs, probably helped by their Wednesday race night. In contrast, Swindon have a very poor recent record with Poles, so Peterborough deserve credit for allowing Swindon to handle one of their prize assets, particularly as teams will be wary of using this asset in the future as it looking like it will be a little tarnished as a result of the loan. It is not Peterborough's fault that Swindon have failed to resolve this with Tarnow. Shock horror! Cue crumpie, Vincentblackshadow, blupanther etc etc...welcome back to our thread folks..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Robin Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Shock horror! Cue crumpie, Vincentblackshadow, blupanther etc etc...welcome back to our thread folks..... Prefer if they stay on their own thread ER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Prefer if they stay on their own thread ER You're so good at providing the ammo though, and before you know it the season will be over and it all kicks off again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 ......And still the Rednecks and good ol' boys of Cambridgeshire and Lincs invade the Swindon thread in there overalls drinkin moonshine strummin banjo's and munching on yams...squeal like a pig boi..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 ......And still the Rednecks and good ol' boys of Cambridgeshire and Lincs invade the Swindon thread in there overalls drinkin moonshine strummin banjo's and munching on yams...squeal like a pig boi..... Rather unusual view, you should get out more. I agree with Stephen Merchant in that I genuinely believe that travel broadens the mind! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Jeez and you need to lighten up more....such a serious little dude arent you?...reckon you go to bed concerned about your beloved Panthers being screwed over...btw I get out enough thankyou and have visited many a different place and culture...probably why I have your area sussed out..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I cannot believe that before a wheel has been turned in anger, three clubs are struggling to field their declared 1-7. I agree with Grachen, it's a joke that there is likely to be more guests and r/r this year thanks to the change in rules, rather than less. Maybe it's time fans voted with their feet and boycotted meetings were their team are not using their declared 1-7? If we hit them in the pocket then they may actually listen to what the fan, their customers, say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumOldBird Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 ......And still the Rednecks and good ol' boys of Cambridgeshire and Lincs invade the Swindon thread in there overalls drinkin moonshine strummin banjo's and munching on yams...squeal like a pig boi..... Excuse me but this Robins fan hails from Norfolk/Cambridgeshire. Please don't tar us all with the same brush, I've never worn overalls in my life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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