The Know Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Its about time Frost stopped playing games and sorted his team out although he probably loves stopping other teams from team building and he thinks he holds all the aces,there is a belle vue joke there but i cant think of one currently. At the end of the day all the riders he isn't using will go for loan fees and there isn't anything he can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Why? I was wondering that too. Didn't do us much good last season with a team full of English riders. At least the new Polish riders actually want to ride for Coventry so that's a good start. If bobxski means the problem is them not turning up then that's also something we suffered from last season. Certain English riders were definitely at the track but still not turning up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 sorry ! but there is no personal insult in my comment just a statement of how i see it. Yep indeed i enjoy it here in the gutter thank you. because i did, what differance may i ask does it make ? I just would have thought a Peterborough insult would belong in the Peterborough thread, or was it that you thought you would get a better reponse in here? Anyway moving on to more important matters. Batch to be bought, Hans future undecided http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/speedway/speedway-one-good-one-bad-and-one-unsettled-situation-1-4694871 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I just would have thought a Peterborough insult would belong in the Peterborough thread, or was it that you thought you would get a better reponse in here? Anyway moving on to more important matters. Batch to be bought, Hans future undecided http://www.peterboro...ation-1-4694871 Assuming the report is correct, then I suggest it is a bigger mess than before this meeting took place. Peterborough think they'e released Andersen, BSPA say otherwise. In the meantime it would appear he has no right to seek employment in the UK (including Peterborough) Batchelor must be bought. So let's get this right. Peterborough don't want to use him. Swindon may decide the price of purchase is too much. Their right. Batchelor has no team. He is only prevented from joining Swindon due to being owned by Peterborough. Peterborough pay him zero for this restriction. The only thing I see stopping this from being an open and shut case in court is that Batchelor is not (I assume) an EU citizen. Iversen "signed" for KL without permission from Peterborough. The BSPA deny there was an illegal approach. Peterborough entirely refute this. So what is going on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Still can't see how the alleged ruling on Batch makes any sense - especially in light of the NKI decision. Peterborough have no intention of using Batch so why is a loan fee not acceptable after only one season when NKI can be loaned for a third season? If I was Patch I wouldn't part with any transfer money, sign Batchelor on loan and then let the BSPA try and challenge the legalities - especially when Batch will effectively be out of work unless some other team wants to buy him! What a crock! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Still can't see how the alleged ruling on Batch makes any sense - especially in light of the NKI decision. Peterborough have no intention of using Batch so why is a loan fee not acceptable after only one season when NKI can be loaned for a third season? If I was Patch I wouldn't part with any transfer money, sign Batchelor on loan and then let the BSPA try and challenge the legalities - especially when Batch will effectively be out of work unless some other team wants to buy him! What a crock! I agree i don't see the logic that NKI goes on loan but Batch has to be bought,if Swindon don't want to buy him then he should be allowed to go on loan,the whole situation is a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 What a crock of s..t the BSPA are as they couldn't run a race let alone a sport. Swindon are letting their assetts go on loan to other teams but are told they have to buy Troy who can only go to Belle Vue as an alternative or not ride in Britain. They then put off the Hans decision for another month & all the while NKI can enjoy a 3rd season on loan at Kings,Lynn.Nothing like consistency. I wonder if Swindon hadn't announced a new team sponsor they would've come to these decisions. Sorry but this sport is run by clowns. Just waiting now for the king of spin from the south coast to come on with his views. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Still can't see how the alleged ruling on Batch makes any sense - especially in light of the NKI decision. Peterborough have no intention of using Batch so why is a loan fee not acceptable after only one season when NKI can be loaned for a third season? If I was Patch I wouldn't part with any transfer money, sign Batchelor on loan and then let the BSPA try and challenge the legalities - especially when Batch will effectively be out of work unless some other team wants to buy him! What a crock! The BSPA would not sanction the loan, the saga rumbles on it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) I agree i don't see the logic that NKI goes on loan but Batch has to be bought,if Swindon don't want to buy him then he should be allowed to go on loan,the whole situation is a farce. Batch was illegaly appraoched, NKI wasn't apparently. Edited January 17, 2013 by Noodles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Batch was illegaly appraoched, NKI wasn't apparently. That is your opinion - if it is fact - show me where this is stated! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Batch was illegaly appraoched, NKI wasn't apparently. What difference does that make? Miedzinski was illegally approached apparently and Poole were still allowed a loan deal and just got fined,surely if Swindon accepted a fine then they could loan him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 That is your opinion - if it is fact - show me where this is stated! Plenty saw his tweet stating he had done a deal with Swindon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remembertheracers Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 It seems to me that the Robins weakness is they have no alternative plan and Peterborough know it, and therefore have little to lose. At worst they still get loan fees... The impasse is bad for both clubs in terms of attracting sponsorship and fans, and therefore bad for our ailing sport. Of course come the start of the season the self employed riders could take out a court injunction,both money and bad publicity the sport cannot afford. Sorry but both clubs emerge from this the poorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65Sarge Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I question what constitutes an illegal approach? 1. Here are terms and a contract for next year Or 2. Would be interested in riding here next year? A vast difference, I'm sure Troy, Hans & NKI all had the second, but to me that is not an illegal it's an end of season conversation. Julie 'pants on fire' lady says "but I find that quite strange given I released Hans on December 21", in that case as far as I know Swindon as his club for the previous season have rights to first dibs on his services, but it is said Coventry were given permission to talk but Swindon refused? surely that's a rule breach? This is a mess, the BSPA are being totally inconsistent, Swindon are saying nothing and the Peterborough woman is blurting all sorts of guff it seems with little foundation! I give up, think I'll watch the paint dry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Two things Harkess and the BSPA are a corrupt joke secondly stick two fingers up at Frosty the NOman and offer them contracts and peterboro a loan and do what Poole did....its so bloody unreal It seems to me that the Robins weakness is they have no alternative plan and Peterborough know it, and therefore have little to lose. At worst they still get loan fees... The impasse is bad for both clubs in terms of attracting sponsorship and fans, and therefore bad for our ailing sport. Of course come the start of the season the self employed riders could take out a court injunction,both money and bad publicity the sport cannot afford. Sorry but both clubs emerge from this the poorer. Dont wish to nitpic but Swindon have ALL there sponsorship sorted and im pretty sure will go to another plan if needed...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 So much tosh being written on here...The BSPA would not sanction any loan agreement, they have ruled on Troy already. Matt Fraud has spoken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I question what constitutes an illegal approach? 1. Here are terms and a contract for next year Or 2. Would be interested in riding here next year? It's how 2 is answered that would constitute an illegal approach. 'Yes mate, we'll see about that once I've had a word with your club' is fine but 'ok, how about XXXXquid per whatever, etc' isn't. And hasn't Batch tweeted about a done deal not a month ago so which of those would you guess applies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian7 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Panthers have never said Troy was illegally approached... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 By Mark Plummer Published on Thursday 17 January 2013 13:47 Peterborough Panthers co-owner Julie Mahoney has spoken of her disappointment after the British Speedway Promoters’ Association (BSPA) threw out the city club’s appeal against Niels Kristian Iversen’s loan switch to local rivals King’s Lynn. Panthers challenged the governing body’s decision to allow their asset to spend a third successive season at the Norfolk Arena as they felt Iversen had been the subject of an illegal approach. But that claim has now been dismissed with the locally-based Danish racer free to negotiate another temporary stint along the A47. But Panthers were far happier with a Management Committee decision to uphold a previous ruling that another of their assets, Troy Batchelor, can only leave the club on a full transfer. Australian ace Batchelor is wanted by reigning Elite League champions Swindon after helping the Wiltshire club to the title while on loan last year, but the Robins are not thought to be willing to buy him. The situation involving Hans Andersen, who is also wanted by Swindon again after skippering them to league honours, has effectively been put on hold for a month. Andersen has turned down offers from Panthers bosses to race here next season and Swindon then withdrew a bid to sign him on a full transfer. Mahoney said: “We are very disappointed with the decision of the Management Committee to not uphold our appeal over King’s Lynn being able to sign Niels on loan. “We feel there is clear evidence that they made an illegal approach for the rider and that now appears to be going unpunished. “We are obviously much happier with the ruling on the Troy situation. “We have always felt that is the right outcome. “It is difficult to comment too much on Hans as the Management Committee have chosen to revisit that at their next meeting on February 15. “I’ve been told we have to make up our minds over which rider we want to use at number one but I find that quite strange given I released Hans on December 21 after he had turned down two offers from Peterborough.” Mahoney stresses she has only been told of the BSPA Management Committee decisions verbally. Written confirmation had not been received late yesterday. Panthers are widely expected to sign Kenneth Bjerre to lead their new-look team into battle next season. what is the problem then..... bloody muppets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Good news in the Adver re; the new stadium with new youth training facilities. A new stadium would attract more sponsors and fans. Local MP says "We are supportive for 2 reasons. Firstly as we will provide a sustainable and long-term future for the speedway team that,having won the league, is a real jewel of our sporting entertainment". About time, in a home that hasn't changed much in over 60 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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