barrow boy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 This is speedway, so who knows, but this article would suggest that is has : It would be interesting to learn who it comprises of then because if it is the exact top 20 based on 2012s end of season Rolling GSAs then fine but it is highly unlikely that rider number 8 Adrian Miedzinski will not ride. Rider number 9 is late Lee Richardson. Rider number 17 Ryan Sullivan will presumably not feature and rider number 18 Joonas Kylmakorpi has stated his non involvement in 2013. Take these 4 riders out of the top 20 and you have to include riders 21 to 24 one of which is Peter Kildemand who has already been signed by Swindon to leave only one place for either Hans Andersen or Troy Batchelor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65Sarge Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I recall reading somewhere that there would be no adjustments to said top 20 once it was set and would include any riders from last years averages with an average of x.xx or more plus a selection of non recent riders/top riders who were considered of said top 29 standard. I think it was, correctly in my opinion, deemed unfair to make team building be undertaken to an ever moving set of goalposts when rider A decided he wasn't riding in the UK! I may of course be wrong, but who can be sure given the apparent inconsistency of decisions being made public, of course who says what is being released into the public domain is correct as we have Promoters disputing with each other! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Robin Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 He said more than yes or no, then. Maybe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It would be interesting to learn who it comprises of then because if it is the exact top 20 based on 2012s end of season Rolling GSAs then fine but it is highly unlikely that rider number 8 Adrian Miedzinski will not ride. Rider number 9 is late Lee Richardson. Rider number 17 Ryan Sullivan will presumably not feature and rider number 18 Joonas Kylmakorpi has stated his non involvement in 2013. Take these 4 riders out of the top 20 and you have to include riders 21 to 24 one of which is Peter Kildemand who has already been signed by Swindon to leave only one place for either Hans Andersen or Troy Batchelor. No, basically the way it works is that you take the average of rider No 20 on the list and can only sign two riders on his average or higher. So if for example you want to sign Tomasz Gollob, he is not on the list but his starting average is higher then rider No20 so if you sign Gollob or someone like him you can only sign one other rider from the top 20. If you sign Gollob and Hancock then that is your full quota because they both have higher averages than rider No20 on the list. On the other hand if you sign Peter Kildemand who is No21 on the list you can still have two higher averaged riders. So the watershed figure is the average of rider No20 0n the list, not the names of whoever is or is not on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Peter Kildemand who is No21 on the list It's funny that isn't it. It would be interesting to know who proposed the rule change and who decided that Top 20 was the way to go and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Robin Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It's funny that isn't it. It would be interesting to know who proposed the rule change and who decided that Top 20 was the way to go and why? It wasn't me!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It wasn't me!! That's you in the clear then, whoever you are (excuse my ignorance on that issue) - forgot to add "when" as it seemed to be a bit of a surprise to a couple of clubs at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 That's you in the clear then, whoever you are (excuse my ignorance on that issue) - forgot to add "when" as it seemed to be a bit of a surprise to a couple of clubs at least! Gary Patchett Esq 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm_31 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Swindon's co promoter..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Robin Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It's funny that isn't it. It would be interesting to know who proposed the rule change and who decided that Top 20 was the way to go and why? The line was drawn under Rory Schlein who was 20th. I think Peter was actually 23rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 The line was drawn under Rory Schlein who was 20th. I think Peter was actually 23rd. The top 21 2012 GSAs less Lee Richardson has been applied then which still includes riders who have no intention of riding and yes with the afore mentioned adjustment Peter is number 23. If however Adrian Miedzinski, Ryan Sullivan & Joonas Kylmakorpi are disregarded he then becomes number 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 There isn't really a top 20 rule as such. It's just the selection of riders from last season. Rory Schlien is the start point for choosing 2 riders in the team. Any rider with an average above (inc assessed riders) Rory is include within that group. That affectively take the total number of riders to around 40(ish) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 The line was drawn under Rory Schlein who was 20th. I think Peter was actually 23rd. OK I was going from memory on Peter's position but I think the principle is still the same and rider No 20 is the watershed average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 The top 21 2012 GSAs less Lee Richardson has been applied then which still includes riders who have no intention of riding and yes with the afore mentioned adjustment Peter is number 23. If however Adrian Miedzinski, Ryan Sullivan & Joonas Kylmakorpi are disregarded he then becomes number 20. Why should they be disregarded merely based on their intentions/assumptions? Maybe Belle Vue will make offers they can't refuse???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 The 2/20 rule is one of the worst pieces of regulation ever to come out of that room full of clowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Harkness Gets Involed http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/2183/harkess-decision-time-for-panthers%20#speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It's funny that isn't it. It would be interesting to know who proposed the rule change and who decided that Top 20 was the way to go and why? It would have to be someone who could work out that 2x10=20, so I guess that would rule out Peterborough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It would have to be someone who could work out that 2x10=20, so I guess that would rule out Peterborough. Bet you had to get your calculator out before you posted that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Rick Frost with his letter from the BSPA...do you think it was signed by the same bloke? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irk Deflector Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Harkness Gets Involed http://speedwaygp.co...thers #speedway What a shambles! How much would Swindon have to pay to take Anderson and Batchelor on loan for a season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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