topaz325 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Why so complicated Just do what Berwick are doing £10 entry ,end of story see how many turn up So if the normal size crowd turned up 400-600 the managment would be worse off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 So if the normal size crowd turned up 400-600 the managment would be worse off. So if the normal size crowd turned up 400-600 the managment would be worse off. You can't have your cake and eat,it that not the gamble you take.Not showing alot of faith in the fans IMO.Accepted that it could go wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 You can't have your cake and eat,it that not the gamble you take.Not showing alot of faith in the fans IMO.Accepted that it could go wrong though. Thats right but no guarantees that a big crowd would turn up for £10.00 a head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Nothings guaranteed but anythings worth a try isn't it? Newcomers are more likely to be encouraged to attend with friends if its "only" a tenner. Another options which all promotions could think about is Tenner for away supporters if they show their season tickets, which would help others promotions to sell season tickets and help with the continued lack of away support from high fuel costs. Its not just Workington in trouble so its time that all the BSPA members help each other out rather than looking after number 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I seem to remember a swelled crowd Turning up at Newport for a PL meeting last year when the price was reduced to a tenner but for some bizarre reason the prices were back to normal the weekend after!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Thats right but no guarantees that a big crowd would turn up for £10.00 a head Thats right but no guarantees that a big crowd would turn up for £10.00 a head Being Honest I wasn't sure if it would pay off when Berwick announced it.It has certainly had an effect at Berwick definately noticeable increase in attendance.John Anderson comment on the website today is relevent I would say in the fact that letting under 16's in free when acompanied with a Adult makes it viable for a whole Family to attend whereas paying for ALL tha family would not be possible in a lot of Households.Being the shrewd business people that the Berwick Promotion now that they do their own catering and bar helps make up for the shortfall quite a bit I would imagine.Sincerly hope you get adecent attendance for the rest of the season and Iwill be making the effort to get to the Berwick fixture as I do enjoy the racing at Worky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Why so complicated Just do what Berwick are doing £10 entry ,end of story see how many turn up ..or dont then the losses are even bigger. Believe me i do hope its working and i am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Nothings guaranteed but anythings worth a try isn't it? Newcomers are more likely to be encouraged to attend with friends if its "only" a tenner. Another options which all promotions could think about is Tenner for away supporters if they show their season tickets, which would help others promotions to sell season tickets and help with the continued lack of away support from high fuel costs. Its not just Workington in trouble so its time that all the BSPA members help each other out rather than looking after number 1 The tenner for away season ticket holders was tried a few years ago but, let's face it, these days a fiver towards your fuel for an away trip isn't going to fill anyone's car par these days. Press release from Berwick today continues the tenner admission for the next two meetings. It might not work everywhere, but it does appear to be working satisfactorily at Berwick - with a lower mid table team. Edited September 21, 2012 by Backless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) The tenner for away season ticket holders was tried a few years ago but, let's face it, these days a fiver towards your fuel for an away trip isn't going to fill anyone's car par these days. It may only be a Fiver but how many supporters travel alone to away matches? Looking at google for a trip to Rye House from Ipswich, its 70 miles and costs £14, £28 return . 4 supporters traveling when they have to pay only a Tenner would then have total cost each of £17, saving about a tenner each, soon adds up........ Edited September 21, 2012 by 2ndbendbeerhut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 It may only be a Fiver but how many supporters travel alone to away matches? Looking at google for a trip to Rye House from Ipswich, its 70 miles and costs £14, £28 return . 4 supporters traveling when they have to pay only a Tenner would then have total cost each of £17, saving about a tenner each, soon adds up........ ...dont forget the fish & chips!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drac Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 No not really I'l just never agree with you or Backless or ....quite a few really on here Or me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 It may only be a Fiver but how many supporters travel alone to away matches? Looking at google for a trip to Rye House from Ipswich, its 70 miles and costs £14, £28 return . 4 supporters traveling when they have to pay only a Tenner would then have total cost each of £17, saving about a tenner each, soon adds up........ a couple of years ago there was a offer at redcar all suporters who produced a programe from the workington meeting the week before got in for a tenner we took a few programes that we managed to get our hands on and gave them to the redcar fans outside why should we get in cheaper than the home fans Nothings guaranteed but anythings worth a try isn't it? Newcomers are more likely to be encouraged to attend with friends if its "only" a tenner. Another options which all promotions could think about is Tenner for away supporters if they show their season tickets, which would help others promotions to sell season tickets and help with the continued lack of away support from high fuel costs. Its not just Workington in trouble so its time that all the BSPA members help each other out rather than looking after number 1 sorry quoted wrong post above should have been this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Regardless of if he does or he doesn't, it's very easy to talk the talk when it isn't your dough on the line. Regardless of if he does or he doesn't, it's very easy to talk the talk when it isn't your dough on the line. as scarra days i have put up , now you shut up. .speedway is reliant on fans being treated as a member of the family. kd thinks everyone is out to ruin him, but in fact he is killing it himself. all but one so it seems. all but one so it seems. i once bught a bag of chips from a local chippy, they were all poor, i took them back. i received a nice reply from the owner, saying . thank you for bringing it to our attention. chips are better and i go back EVERY errk. Edited September 21, 2012 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 as scarra days i have put up , now you shut up. .speedway is reliant on fans being treated as a member of the family. kd thinks everyone is out to ruin him, but in fact he is killing it himself. i once bught a bag of chips from a local chippy, they were all poor, i took them back. i received a nice reply from the owner, saying . thank you for bringing it to our attention. chips are better and i go back EVERY errk. You sound like you have been on the sherbet mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 there was a small piece on our local news tonight keith denham actully spoke as if he did care no threats no arogance but the reporter was tat a few mistakes which could be a bit misleading to anyone thinking of going for first time to show some support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Havn't read all the posts on this thread, but it seems to me that fans want to see the riders that have signed for their club racing against a visiting team that also includes riders that belong to that club. Nobody was interested in challenge matches and fewer people are interested in matches where teams are made up of guests and R/R. The problem is too many injuries, there are a number of solutions to this, all have been discussed before but nobody willing to bite the bullet and make the drastic changes necessary. There were two articules in The Star recently which should be compulsory reading at the next AGM. One discussed a change in tyres and more dirt on the tracks and reducing costs, the other by Barry Briggs on what a big mistake lay down engines were. Looking through the weekly results recently I noticed riders like Nicholls and Harris riding for three different clubs in a week, none of which were their own. How can you support a sport where your own riders are helping the opposition to win the League. If riders are not injured they are missing British meetings by riding abroad, in various competitions, under 21's etc. Unless there is a major change, the sport it is dead in the water, it must be the only business where the management completely ignore what their customers want, and which has no coverage in the press, what paper would cover the world cup with a joker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Havn't read all the posts on this thread, but it seems to me that fans want to see the riders that have signed for their club racing against a visiting team that also includes riders that belong to that club. Nobody was interested in challenge matches and fewer people are interested in matches where teams are made up of guests and R/R. The problem is too many injuries, there are a number of solutions to this, all have been discussed before but nobody willing to bite the bullet and make the drastic changes necessary. There were two articules in The Star recently which should be compulsory reading at the next AGM. One discussed a change in tyres and more dirt on the tracks and reducing costs, the other by Barry Briggs on what a big mistake lay down engines were. Looking through the weekly results recently I noticed riders like Nicholls and Harris riding for three different clubs in a week, none of which were their own. How can you support a sport where your own riders are helping the opposition to win the League. If riders are not injured they are missing British meetings by riding abroad, in various competitions, under 21's etc. Unless there is a major change, the sport it is dead in the water, it must be the only business where the management completely ignore what their customers want, and which has no coverage in the press, what paper would cover the world cup with a joker. Very informative and interesting post. A lot of folk have talked about introducing a squad system, that would be a big improvement, in my opinion. I don't know much about the safety aspects, but the riders and ex-riders should be listened to very seriously. Especially after this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Havn't read all the posts on this thread, but it seems to me that fans want to see the riders that have signed for their club racing against a visiting team that also includes riders that belong to that club. Nobody was interested in challenge matches and fewer people are interested in matches where teams are made up of guests and R/R. The problem is too many injuries, there are a number of solutions to this, all have been discussed before but nobody willing to bite the bullet and make the drastic changes necessary. There were two articules in The Star recently which should be compulsory reading at the next AGM. One discussed a change in tyres and more dirt on the tracks and reducing costs, the other by Barry Briggs on what a big mistake lay down engines were. Looking through the weekly results recently I noticed riders like Nicholls and Harris riding for three different clubs in a week, none of which were their own. How can you support a sport where your own riders are helping the opposition to win the League. If riders are not injured they are missing British meetings by riding abroad, in various competitions, under 21's etc. Unless there is a major change, the sport it is dead in the water, it must be the only business where the management completely ignore what their customers want, and which has no coverage in the press, what paper would cover the world cup with a joker. Maybe it is time for speedway to drastically reduce league racing or do away with it altogether, that would probably see the foreign riders disappear. Then use the stadium, say, every other week and have different types of open meetings. Maybe even mix with sidecar speedway and perhaps short track. If there is a genuine shortage of riders, league racing is surely farcical? It wouldn't mean that you would need to see the same riders week in week out, as you could have regional meetings and national meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Maybe it is time for speedway to drastically reduce league racing or do away with it altogether, that would probably see the foreign riders disappear. Then use the stadium, say, every other week and have different types of open meetings. Maybe even mix with sidecar speedway and perhaps short track. If there is a genuine shortage of riders, league racing is surely farcical? It wouldn't mean that you would need to see the same riders week in week out, as you could have regional meetings and national meetings. .... and watch the fans completely dissappear.... In other words have meaningless challenge matches and individual events, which supporters don't want. Mix it with sidecars and/or short track.... that'll be like Australia then. Speedway DOES need to change, but for heavens sake, change it for the better. Edited September 22, 2012 by The Abbott 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 I have Jenga on ignore but thought i would read it anyway.......................who is this person and what planet do they live on I could go on and personally attack the post but whats the use. IF I AM ON IGNORE WITH YOU. THEN IGNORE ME AND MY POSTS. THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD IGNORE . MEANS JUST THAT , IGNORE AND DONT RESPOND. GOD BLESS YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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