graz gp Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 To see Steady at his best the track needs to have plenty of dirt on it. Just been looking on youtube at Argentinian speedway very big track. Albin was riding, but the commenty was in Argentinian ( or what ever language they speak) it looked quite fast..I think i worked out which one was Albin, if i was correct looked good.Great style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Brownell Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 remember when we were dominant at home the track was ripped up on outside for sean wilson and andre to pass people now we have steady and hally will we see it again in the last few years the track has slicker and slicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILYRAG Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 remember when we were dominant at home the track was ripped up on outside for sean wilson and andre to pass people now we have steady and hally will we see it again in the last few years the track has slicker and slicker I really hope they do rip up the track Adrian , that as much as bad team selection has been a factor in the drop in attendances IMO. The by and large proccessional drivel we have been served up with the slick track has been a real turn off and when the track was ripped up before teams/riders talked themselves out of points before they had even started , even Grievsey has been comfortable around it and any home advantage is given up with a slick track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
active Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Well its now Saterday afternoon and I am still waiting for news re Wells or not It is not helping anyone as fans need to know what team we have and I fully understand both sides saying its about money but please both can we resolve this issue for the sake of Sheffield Speedway s a whole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I think part of the problem with the track is that it got ruined during the floods in 2007(?) and has never been the same since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Put some shale on it , and grade it properly. Have we not got one of the best track guy's doing the track. Tell him what the rider's want, and he will try to get the track set up correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
active Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I think part of the issue with the track is since we stopped having total loss oil engines it has had an effect on how the track binds together . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Do the Stock Cars not play a big part in it too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Do the Stock Cars not play a big part in it too? Don't think it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 They haven't used total loss engines for for over 20 years, and there is nothing stopping anyone maybe adding a binding agent maybe a little oil if the track drainage goes into underground tanks. I think its also different shale used these days or a different mix. Shale isn't cheap these days. I think Scunthorpe use a different Shale to most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friddy75 Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Here goes my opinions for the Tigers for 2012 1 Stead Do think he will be a good number one and also fantastic as captain and mentor to the young lads. But I don't think he will be as dominant as some are expecting and feel he'll end the season having dropped a point off his average. 2 Koppe Excited to see what the lad can do. But a little concerned that I've heard his name pre-season for a couple of years and no one has snapped him up. At 24 he's a late starter to the premier league when there's several 16-18 year olds joining this season. If he can get near his starting average he will of done well. 3 Haines I think joe will continue to improve this season although he will find it harder in the main body. Such a good gater that he'll always have a chance and showed he can pass towards the end of last season. 4 Hall Can't fault his commitment to the cause for Sheffield and could be considered a number 1 at home. Would of liked to see him help out the lower average riders by blocking when he gets in front and showed some team riding. Not likely to see it now the bonus point money has been dropped. It's all about the away form for Richard. 5 ???? For me I hope it's Wells. Think he has massive potential and could add a point and a half. Yes he didn't do as well as he did for Wolves but it was starting to show at the end of the season home and importantly away. If not Wells I can't see any other rider who could be called a third heat leader signing for the same deal on offer and think we'll end up with a second string rider in that position. 6 Albin Again very excited to see what the lad can do. Sounds a hot prospect but can't say any more till I've seen him ride. Same as Koppe, if he can get near his 5 point average he will have done well. 7 Knight Would like the lad to surprise me but truthfully think he will be out of his depth. Didnt look on the pace when guesting for us and riding at 8. And going by his position in the National league I can't see him doing to well. Good luck to the lad! Team Very risky side. Would be happy with any of the signings in a different blend of riders but as a team I'm a little worried we'll take some hammerings away and will lose more at home than last season. Management I guess we'll go with Hoggy and Hinchcliff again. Personally I think Hoggy should be back on centre green where he belongs promoting the club and exciting the crowd. Hinchcliff could do the job this year looking after the young lads as he's done for the Tigers before with Stead having some input to help out. Would really like a different person as manager but don't think it will happen so no point going on about it Promotion With only 10 weeks till the season begins I'm a little disappointed. Still dont know the team. No talk of prices. Not heard of anything happening differently to try and improve the promotion of Sheffield Tigers. I've got a little inkling that the promotion have already decided to sell up this year as I can't understand why they'd spent money on assets in a year when we've been warned it could be the last. Other than it looks better to potential buyers and gives them a season to find a buyer. Track Do agree with others that the racing has become a bit tame. Ok we have lost some great passes like Auty and Ashworth but it was mentioned by Hoggy last season that the track was set up like it was because the riders wanted it like that. Stead and Hall need the dirt and possibly Wells and Albin would benefit too. On the down side it could go against Joes style. Not very confident but hoping I'm proved wrong. Really looking forward to the season starting and good luck to all involved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Here goes my opinions for the Tigers for 2012 1 Stead Do think he will be a good number one and also fantastic as captain and mentor to the young lads. But I don't think he will be as dominant as some are expecting and feel he'll end the season having dropped a point off his average. 2 Koppe Excited to see what the lad can do. But a little concerned that I've heard his name pre-season for a couple of years and no one has snapped him up. At 24 he's a late starter to the premier league when there's several 16-18 year olds joining this season. If he can get near his starting average he will of done well. 3 Haines I think joe will continue to improve this season although he will find it harder in the main body. Such a good gater that he'll always have a chance and showed he can pass towards the end of last season. 4 Hall Can't fault his commitment to the cause for Sheffield and could be considered a number 1 at home. Would of liked to see him help out the lower average riders by blocking when he gets in front and showed some team riding. Not likely to see it now the bonus point money has been dropped. It's all about the away form for Richard. 5 ???? For me I hope it's Wells. Think he has massive potential and could add a point and a half. Yes he didn't do as well as he did for Wolves but it was starting to show at the end of the season home and importantly away. If not Wells I can't see any other rider who could be called a third heat leader signing for the same deal on offer and think we'll end up with a second string rider in that position. 6 Albin Again very excited to see what the lad can do. Sounds a hot prospect but can't say any more till I've seen him ride. Same as Koppe, if he can get near his 5 point average he will have done well. 7 Knight Would like the lad to surprise me but truthfully think he will be out of his depth. Didnt look on the pace when guesting for us and riding at 8. And going by his position in the National league I can't see him doing to well. Good luck to the lad! Team Very risky side. Would be happy with any of the signings in a different blend of riders but as a team I'm a little worried we'll take some hammerings away and will lose more at home than last season. Management I guess we'll go with Hoggy and Hinchcliff again. Personally I think Hoggy should be back on centre green where he belongs promoting the club and exciting the crowd. Hinchcliff could do the job this year looking after the young lads as he's done for the Tigers before with Stead having some input to help out. Would really like a different person as manager but don't think it will happen so no point going on about it Promotion With only 10 weeks till the season begins I'm a little disappointed. Still dont know the team. No talk of prices. Not heard of anything happening differently to try and improve the promotion of Sheffield Tigers. I've got a little inkling that the promotion have already decided to sell up this year as I can't understand why they'd spent money on assets in a year when we've been warned it could be the last. Other than it looks better to potential buyers and gives them a season to find a buyer. Track Do agree with others that the racing has become a bit tame. Ok we have lost some great passes like Auty and Ashworth but it was mentioned by Hoggy last season that the track was set up like it was because the riders wanted it like that. Stead and Hall need the dirt and possibly Wells and Albin would benefit too. On the down side it could go against Joes style. Not very confident but hoping I'm proved wrong. Really looking forward to the season starting and good luck to all involved! Dont think hally could be classed as a number 1 ,how many heat 15 did he win ? Agree the track needs attention this season because its been like watching paint dry in recent years and with hally and steady in the side it needs to be grippy.Think we need more than one line with the team weve put together.The track was a disgrace at the plrc for the last few races on the first two bends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILKO Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 They haven't used total loss engines for for over 20 years, and there is nothing stopping anyone maybe adding a binding agent maybe a little oil if the track drainage goes into underground tanks. I think its also different shale used these days or a different mix. Shale isn't cheap these days. I think Scunthorpe use a different Shale to most. iI think you are right about the shale, I am sure they had to start using the same fine shale as at Bell Vue on the insistance of the Greyhound people. This smaller shale does not bind as well as the old course stuff. I see the track graded every week at about 5pm and there is loads of stuff there but it looks so fine and loose like it would blow away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Duppcomic Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I heard from someone that the new drainage on the Greyhound track caused an issue with sand getting washed off it onto the Speedway Circuit, and that affected how the shale was binding. But if that IS the case, can anything be done to get the track as Stead and Hall want it? I know absolutely nothing about track preparation. Anyone who has actually prepared a track know the answer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) see Steady at his best the track needs to have plenty of dirt on it. Just been looking on youtube at Argentinian speedway very big track. Albin was riding, but the commenty was in Argentinian ( or what ever language they speak) it looked quite fast..I think i worked out which one was Albin, if i was correct looked good.Great style. He's the one who hangs off the bike with his leg in the air. Edited January 20, 2013 by squall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 He's the one who hangs off the bike with his leg in the air. Remember him the evening he rode Sheffield on the Berwick team bike that eventually gave up on him. He looked very stylish & ar*e to the wind! His mother and I think sister (or girlfriend) were just past the third bend with an Argentinian flag, cheering him on. Liked the look of him then, & think he'll go down well at Owlerton - glad we've got him & not Berwick to be honest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Cheers Squall. I will have another look just make sure i was looking at the right guy. I think i was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
active Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Well its Sunday and I have not heard anything re the last member of the team is this an elastic week like Halifax tapes used to be stretch into next month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big johnowls Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Last place is absolutely make or break first six only good enough if 7th is Wells or equivalent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big johnowls Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Can Sheffield even finish top half this season very doubtful IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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