Halifaxtiger Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 It's much less of a risk with a number seven and Jake is worth the risk. If it doesn't work out, it is a position that can be changed easier than all the others. That's true............but the problem is is that is in the first few meetings of the season that spectators make their mind up about the team. Any criticism on the pages of this forum will quickly be forgotten about if the Tigers win their first few matches. Lose them because of a bad signing and those spectators won't return even if the line up is changed. A few might, but certainly not all. The point is the risk need not even have been taken (or certainly it could have been significantly reduced). Never known a thread move so quick down to one signing. Okay not the 3 point rider that I would have gone for myself, would have been Nielsen or Jacobs for me. But there was a clue last season that this could happen, and towards the end of last season both myself, Squall and SKJ all said that Jake could well be in the side for this season, so in a way I am not surprised to see him given a chance, and that what we have to do is give the lad a chance. Nice to see the usual suspects coming out as soon as there is a signing that appears to be a bit suspect. Friddy 75 who know every signing that the Promotion is going to make, seems to have all the inside knowledge on who is going to sign and who is not going to sign for Sheffield, maybe they can introduce me to who they get their information from. Maybe Friddy is right but I am prepared to wait and see who the next three signings are and then I will make some sort of judgement on the team and how it will progress. . I would certainly be prepared to give the lad a chance now that he has been signed (and I trust everyone will) and I genuinely hope I have got it wrong. That's somewhat irrelevant, though. The point is that based upon what we know Sheffield have signed a rider who is nowhere near as good as another they could have got on the same average. I think your final line is dead right. With half the team not yet named, it is too early to make a true judgement. However, 2012 was a disastrous year for a side used to a fair degree of success and to pull that back what was needed was an attractive team that looks like making the play offs. Based upon what has been named, the last three are going to have to be pretty special to achieve that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friddy75 Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Why you have to throw a personal attack at me Spinking I just don't know!! What a bloody hypercritical idiot! So I'm not allowed to express my opinions about who I would of liked as a 3 pointer but you've done it in the same post as the one where you've mocked me. I seem to know every signing blah blah blah! The only one I've tried to express I feel will definately return is Hall. And this is because he has been talked about in several press releases, the last being Thursday's Speedway star. I'm getting my information from factual sources the same as anyone else can get, Sheffield star, speedway star. And as for waiting for the team to be announced blah blah blah, I would guess its a toss up between me and you who have tried to guess the team for 2012. I've enjoyed reading and discussing some of your posts, some which I've agreed with some that I haven't and vice versa. Why you suddenly feel like you need to turn on me I do not know. I can see why several have thrown insults at you before. Theres been several other posters expressing their worries about next years team and signings. Why you have to point the finger at me I do not know. Once again HYPERCRIT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Why you have to throw a personal attack at me Spinking I just don't know!! What a bloody hypercritical idiot! So I'm not allowed to express my opinions about who I would of liked as a 3 pointer but you've done it in the same post as the one where you've mocked me. I seem to know every signing blah blah blah! The only one I've tried to express I feel will definately return is Hall. And this is because he has been talked about in several press releases, the last being Thursday's Speedway star. I'm getting my information from factual sources the same as anyone else can get, Sheffield star, speedway star. And as for waiting for the team to be announced blah blah blah, I would guess its a toss up between me and you who have tried to guess the team for 2012. I've enjoyed reading and discussing some of your posts, some which I've agreed with some that I haven't and vice versa. Why you suddenly feel like you need to turn on me I do not know. I can see why several have thrown insults at you before. Theres been several other posters expressing their worries about next years team and signings. Why you have to point the finger at me I do not know. Once again HYPERCRIT!! Yeah I agree. Whatta Knobhead! Everyone's been posting about their worries about the teams and you're the only one he picks out? Typical Spin King.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yeah I agree. Whatta Knobhead! Everyone's been posting about their worries about the teams and you're the only one he picks out? Typical Spin King.... Et tue, brute ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yeah I agree. Whatta Knobhead! Everyone's been posting about their worries about the teams and you're the only one he picks out? Typical Spin King.... Well you could never say that Nepotism rules in our household. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Ok so we have our 3 point rider, like it or not Jake Knight. Looking back over this last season it now seems quite obvious that this was already a done deal. Just out of interest does any Tigers fan recall seeing our 'official number 8' from last season - Jordan Tyrer, ever turn out on the track at Owlerton, even in a second half try out??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Why you have to throw a personal attack at me Spinking I just don't know!! What a bloody hypercritical idiot! So I'm not allowed to express my opinions about who I would of liked as a 3 pointer but you've done it in the same post as the one where you've mocked me. I seem to know every signing blah blah blah! The only one I've tried to express I feel will definately return is Hall. And this is because he has been talked about in several press releases, the last being Thursday's Speedway star. I'm getting my information from factual sources the same as anyone else can get, Sheffield star, speedway star. And as for waiting for the team to be announced blah blah blah, I would guess its a toss up between me and you who have tried to guess the team for 2012. I've enjoyed reading and discussing some of your posts, some which I've agreed with some that I haven't and vice versa. Why you suddenly feel like you need to turn on me I do not know. I can see why several have thrown insults at you before. Theres been several other posters expressing their worries about next years team and signings. Why you have to point the finger at me I do not know. Once again HYPERCRIT!! Okay fair enough I was a bit harsh, but if you make statements like; And how ever you try and interpret the statement, Joe Haines will not be the only rider returning from last year....WE ARE GOING TO GET HALL! Then to me that means that you are suggesting that you know something that the rest of us don't know. That is not an opinion that telling people you know something for a fact. End of the day I don't who those three signings are going to be and I suspect neither do you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WTF1 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'm going to do my damnedest to make that name stick! Tigerpig and a promoter called Hogwarts what more do Sheffield want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friddy75 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I said that statement with the factual information that me you and every body else have been told. We were told that 3 riders will return from last season-Fact We were told that Sheffield could not accommodate Franc and Hall in the same team due to long track commitments-Fact Last weeks Speedway star quoted Hoggy saying they were talking to Wells and Hall-Fact I am not posting make believe like many do, I am using the information infront of me to make my own personal suggestions, If you don't like it...don't read it. The point of a forum is a place where fans can express their own opinions good or bad. I try very hard not to insult the rider individually, as I did yesterday when I explained why I wasn't keen on the Knight signing( it's not the rider but as part of the team we have and the one I feel we'll end up with I just don't think he is right ). Maybe your a little upset because your starting to relise I might be right, Hall will return along with 2 other cheap options and we'll have a poor team again. Several others expressed some negativity yesterday, are you going to throw your dummy at one of those today?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I said that statement with the factual information that me you and every body else have been told. We were told that 3 riders will return from last season-Fact We were told that Sheffield could not accommodate Franc and Hall in the same team due to long track commitments-Fact Last weeks Speedway star quoted Hoggy saying they were talking to Wells and Hall-Fact I am not posting make believe like many do, I am using the information infront of me to make my own personal suggestions, If you don't like it...don't read it. The point of a forum is a place where fans can express their own opinions good or bad. I try very hard not to insult the rider individually, as I did yesterday when I explained why I wasn't keen on the Knight signing( it's not the rider but as part of the team we have and the one I feel we'll end up with I just don't think he is right ). Maybe your a little upset because your starting to relise I might be right, Hall will return along with 2 other cheap options and we'll have a poor team again. Several others expressed some negativity yesterday, are you going to throw your dummy at one of those today?? Okay think we will be going around in circles with this one. Lets agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan 1991 Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I said that statement with the factual information that me you and every body else have been told. We were told that 3 riders will return from last season-Fact We were told that Sheffield could not accommodate Franc and Hall in the same team due to long track commitments-Fact Last weeks Speedway star quoted Hoggy saying they were talking to Wells and Hall-Fact I am not posting make believe like many do, I am using the information infront of me to make my own personal suggestions, If you don't like it...don't read it. The point of a forum is a place where fans can express their own opinions good or bad. I try very hard not to insult the rider individually, as I did yesterday when I explained why I wasn't keen on the Knight signing( it's not the rider but as part of the team we have and the one I feel we'll end up with I just don't think he is right ). Maybe your a little upset because your starting to relise I might be right, Hall will return along with 2 other cheap options and we'll have a poor team again. Several others expressed some negativity yesterday, are you going to throw your dummy at one of those today?? Hoggy also said the interest and enthusiasm from supporters has gone up a level with the signings ,and it appears it has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I hope Hoggy does not think because we have signed Steady that all our problems are solved. Imo there's a long way to go yet, before we have a decent team. It's gone quiet about which day we will be racing on. Anyone heard anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Well you could never say that Nepotism rules in our household. Chuck him out, mate. A few weeks living rough and he might be a bit more respectful. Hoggy also said the interest and enthusiasm from supporters has gone up a level with the signings ,and it appears it has I think the time to make such statements is when the team has been completed, not now. I'd say the jury is very much still out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerowl Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Changed my avatar for you Squall, just to make your task a little bit easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILYRAG Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Never known a thread move so quick down to one signing. Okay not the 3 point rider that I would have gone for myself, would have been Nielsen or Jacobs for me. But there was a clue last season that this could happen, and towards the end of last season both myself, Squall and SKJ all said that Jake could well be in the side for this season, so in a way I am not surprised to see him given a chance, and that what we have to do is give the lad a chance. Nice to see the usual suspects coming out as soon as there is a signing that appears to be a bit suspect. Friddy 75 who know every signing that the Promotion is going to make, seems to have all the inside knowledge on who is going to sign and who is not going to sign for Sheffield, maybe they can introduce me to who they get their information from. Maybe Friddy is right but I am prepared to wait and see who the next three signings are and then I will make some sort of judgement on the team and how it will progress. . I suppose I am down as one of your "usual suspects" Spinny ? We have not only made one "suspect signing" though have we ? Koppe undiscovered at 24 and beaten by second halfers this year is a big gamble and Knight who is not even an average NL rider is in our PL team , thats two "suspect signings" in my book ! Changed my avatar for you Squall, just to make your task a little bit easier. Nice one Porky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunch Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Its so difficult to judge teams at this stage,for me the team looks like its going to be one built with the first changes in average in mind..assume your new No1 drops a bit off his average,koppe could easily drop two points(think hes a decent rider but most assessed guys drop back first) and all of a sudden you have got a lot of options. I think you could be super strong especially at reserve with a change when averages allow and sometimes you have to build that way when you use assessed riders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havenagotahope Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 small lively Argentinian heading your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 small lively Argentinian heading your way. Facundo Albin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havenagotahope Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 you got it plus as a bonus you get his mentor Dick Barrie :rofl: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 you got it plus as a bonus you get his mentor Dick Barrie :rofl: three 5 point riders in 1 team, surely not!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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