Charlieboy Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I agree but you know what our management are like !!!!!!!!!!!!! If we can get a good team spirit and win a few early on riders might no worry too much where they ride in the team.We dont want the same spirit or lack of it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I agree but you know what our management are like !!!!!!!!!!!!! If we can get a good team spirit and win a few early on riders might no worry too much where they ride in the team.We dont want the same spirit or lack of it this year. I think that Steady will play a big part in the team spirit, as captain and I think that he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I agree but you know what our management are like !!!!!!!!!!!!! If we can get a good team spirit and win a few early on riders might no worry too much where they ride in the team.We dont want the same spirit or lack of it this year. I've been reading through this thread because it is a Hot topic but far from being interesting probably 80% of it is negative and having a pop at the people who own and run your club. What is the problem are Sheffield fans just whingers or am I misunderstanding something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I've been reading through this thread because it is a Hot topic but far from being interesting probably 80% of it is negative and having a pop at the people who own and run your club. What is the problem are Sheffield fans just whingers or am I misunderstanding something? Would not say that we are whingers. The thing about us at Sheffield we have been used to having teams over the last 14 years been in or around the mix for silverware, so last season hit us really hard and the worrying factor for the die hard's like myself the crowd levels were down and like a lot I felt it was down to the team collectively that the Promotion put together last season (Although there was a few plus points for me Joe Haines been a definite one) but generally from the start fans felt that the team was not good enough. The Promotion promise to make sweeping changes and too be fair they have made quite a few, but the worrying problem for is that the Promotion have brought in 3 riders on assessed averages, and the big problem is that the fans don't have any form or have not seen any of the riders on assessed averages (Jake Knight apart). They simply don't have anything to judge these riders on, and it is rare that assessed rider achieve their assessed average or better it. But on a positive note I don't think that you find a Sheffield who has not applauded the signing of both Joe Haines and Simon Stead and they have been universally accepted by the Sheffield fans as two very good signings. Ricky Wells, has the fans split, some of the Sheffield fans were perplexed that Ricky could go out one night and beat Darcy Ward for Wolves and the next night come to Sheffield and get beat of the opposition's reserves. Richard Hall is another one that has us split, superb and exciting to watch around Sheffield but his away performance are and have more often than not been poor and the Promotion spin the same line every year that Richard is working hard and is determined to improve those away performances which is starting to wear a bit thin. The Team Managers has been a big issue at Sheffield, over a number of years for the fans. They seem to miss tactical decisions when they are obvious to everyone else and don't tend to mix the riding orders to suit different tracks. For me and the rest of the die hard's we still go week in week out, but like quite a few I worry whether or not the team will be attractive enough to bring back the stay away fans. The team has a feel of a bit of a gamble by the club and of course gamble's do pay off sometimes, but I do think that with 3 assessed riders coming into the team it means that the some if not all of the lads will have hit the ground running to attract back the stay away fans. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Richard Hall is another one that has us split, superb and exciting to watch around Sheffield but his away performance are and have more often than not been poor and the Promotion spin the same line every year that Richard is working hard and is determined to improve those away performances which is starting to wear a bit thin. Great post. Explains all perfectly. We have all had riders with the 'Hall' effect. Glen Cunningham and Simon Walker for the Rebels spring to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nora Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Well said I'll go every thurdon't care if they win or loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Richard Hall is another one that has us split, superb and exciting to watch around Sheffield but his away performance are and have more often than not been poor and the Promotion spin the same line every year that Richard is working hard and is determined to improve those away performances which is starting to wear a bit thin. That's ironic, it sounds like Steady at Swindon! Hopeless away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdsalBoy Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ok this one should help pass some time, Where are they now ? Please help me. Tommy Palmer Dangerous Derrol Keats Steve Knott Simon Cartwright Peter Boast Lee Redmond Trevor Harding Sam Martin Ben Wilson Andre Compton Adam Allott Lee Hodgson Andrew Moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ok this one should help pass some time, Where are they now ? Please help me. Adam Allott Ahhhh! I really don't want to know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ok this one should help pass some time, Where are they now ? Please help me. Tommy Palmer Unknown Dangerous Derrol Keats I believe he had a very bad accident on his road bike but has made a recovery but not sure what he is doing. Steve Knott I think emigrated to Australia and working over there, I think he visited Owlerton last season. Simon Cartwright Probably involved in running the family furniture business. Peter Boast Races and organises Short track meetings Lee Redmond Back home in Oz but not sure what he is doing. Trevor Harding Ditto Sam Martin Ditto Ben Wilson Last I heard he was working for Oily Rag, but wants to return to racing Andre Compton Running his business and recently become a father Adam Allott On the comeback trail, but saddle with a pretty high average. Lee Hodgson Not sure not seen him watching speeedway for some time. Andrew Moore Retired probably working in some form of engineering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Think Trevor Harding races cars back in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 lee hodgson was down at sheffield in panorama room a few times last seaon with his partner and child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I've been reading through this thread because it is a Hot topic but far from being interesting probably 80% of it is negative and having a pop at the people who own and run your club. What is the problem are Sheffield fans just whingers or am I misunderstanding something? That depends how you define 'negative' To some on this thread it is questioning the team or promotion in any way - in other words, you can't be critical at all without being labelled with that tag. To me, being negative is not having a good word to say at any point, being positive being the complete opposite. Both are almost certainly motivated by prejudice,are equally ridiculous and should equally be ignored. Fortunately, there is a third way - being realistic. By that, I mean coming to a judgement about the teams prospects on what we actually know from past seasons and the rider performances. I don't think its difficult. Spinny's excellent post above is both a typical example of that and a typical example of his contributions to this thread in that he says what he thinks (and, I suspect, what most think). You could do worse than simply read any posts he has made on this subject. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Is Spinny paying you. Or are you is dad lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Is Spinny paying you. Or are you is dad lol No, he's mine. Is Spinny paying you. Or are you is dad lol No, he's mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 That depends how you define 'negative' To some on this thread it is questioning the team or promotion in any way - in other words, you can't be critical at all without being labelled with that tag. To me, being negative is not having a good word to say at any point, being positive being the complete opposite. Both are almost certainly motivated by prejudice,are equally ridiculous and should equally be ignored. Fortunately, there is a third way - being realistic. By that, I mean coming to a judgement about the teams prospects on what we actually know from past seasons and the rider performances. I don't think its difficult. Spinny's excellent post above is both a typical example of that and a typical example of his contributions to this thread in that he says what he thinks (and, I suspect, what most think). You could do worse than simply read any posts he has made on this subject. I raised the issue following the way I perceived the tone of the thead having waded through pages. Both you and SK are balanced throughout as with your replies to me, thank you. If both your inputs were removed from the whole thread it leaves a lot of negative comments and doesn't paint the posters in the best light. There is a minority who seem to have personal issues with the promotion and I wouldn't have thought this was the platform to get them resolved hence my conclusion that there is too much whinging. It just seems to breed more negative behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Im glad you are looking up to your elder's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Am I Halifax Tiger's Dad. Well if I am that some milk round that I had at about 3 years old. (Don't be fooled by the name Halifax is Southern lad) And remember Halifax if I am your Dad SKJ is your little brother. And the cheque is in the post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 A little piece in the Speedway Star - Sheffield Cubs/Prowlers have withdrawn from the MDL. Does this mean just free practice for second halves every week? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 To all Tigers fans, the last STAARS social this winter will take place next Thursday (7th March 2013) from 8pm at the New Barrack Tavern on Penistone Road, Sheffield (0.5miles south-east of Owlerton Stadium.) All are Welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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