tigerowl Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I would like to see riders like Josh Grajzonek, Dakota North, Taylor Poole, Stefan Nielsen, Jordan Frampton... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 My ideal team for next season would be- 1.Simon Stead 2.Joe Haines 3.Josh Grajczonek 4.David Bellego 5.Jordan Frampton 6.Damien Koppe 7.Stefan Nielsen Absolutely no chance of it happening, but it'd be one hell of a team to watch every Thursday- or whatever race night we'll be riding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hel'n'Back Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I thought Jordan Frampton had retired before the end of last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friddy75 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 2012 Sheffield dream team 1 Ashworth 2 Toft 3 Wells 4 Birks 5 Auty 6 Haines Sarjeant 2012 What I think we'll get 1 Stead 2 Haines 3 Wells 4 Sanchez/Skiddy 5 Hall 6 Koppe 7 Jakobsen/Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 What about (1) Simon Stead (2) Damien Koppe (3) Claus Vissing (4) Joe Haines (5) Josh Grajczonek (6) Micky Dyer (7) Stefan Nielsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 What about (1) Simon Stead (2) Damien Koppe (3) Claus Vissing (4) Joe Haines (5) Josh Grajczonek (6) Micky Dyer (7) Stefan Nielsen Claus Vissing? At Sheffield? No thank you... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 2012 Sheffield dream team 1 Ashworth 2 Toft 3 Wells 4 Birks 5 Auty 6 Haines Sarjeant 2012 What I think we'll get 1 Stead 2 Haines 3 Wells 4 Sanchez/Skiddy 5 Hall 6 Koppe 7 Jakobsen/Davey Clearly, you are not going to get your dream team because half of them have already signed for other clubs. I also think you are wrong about Stead, because he's an excellent signing. He might not hit the average he has but he won't be far away, he is a new face and he's a local boy. To me, signing him is better than getting Ashworth back. I can very much see Tigerowl's point about Wells but I think there is clear potential for him to step up big time. For that reason, I'd have him in the team. The problem with Hall is that he simply won't go anywhere. He's had the same average for years and its odds on it won't change next season. Having a rider around for season after season who is going nowhere is a turn off for fans. I doubt very much that the promotion will have the side you have listed -if they do, they will have learned nothing from last season. While I fully respect the financial stability of Sheffield Speedway, if you go too far towards saving money on riders it can backfire big time. To my mind,(and fully accepting it is not my money at risk) its more of a gamble to spend less and trust that your supporters will accept an inferior product than to spend a bit more and trust that gates will increase. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friddy75 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 My dream team was riders I would of liked before any signings. Was never going to happen, just showing a different set up. Each to their own with Stead. I would of preferred to have kept Haines at reserve to cover a young British and Sheffield lad Sarjeant rather than Koppe. Everyone has different opinions that's what a forums for. Remember what we've been told in press release's 3 Riders will return from last season. We can't acccomadate Franc & Hall due to long track Wells would like a return as Hoggy supported him We are talking to Hall and Wells Hall WILL be back! I just hope Wells is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 What about (1) Simon Stead (2) Damien Koppe (3) Claus Vissing (4) Joe Haines (5) Josh Grajczonek (6) Micky Dyer (7) Stefan Nielsen Have to agree with skj here, Claus Vissing is a good rider, who can pass both inside & outside at Owlerton, but after what he did to Paul Cooper coming into the third bend here a few years ago I don't think any Tigers fan would like to have him in the team however bad things might seem. While on about Danes another Klaus (Jakobsen) our last big asset signing, please lets not have him back as I've seen his name on one of our probable septets. I think he proved his worth last year, rides safe at the back most of the time and when he gains confidence and goes for it, falls off or gets knocked off and is then injured. No use to anyone, especially at reserve! Stefan Neilsen has got to be our 3 point rider,(said it before & will no doubt say it again) having seen him ride quite a bit over the last 2 years he has definately got potential & should be given his chance - please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 . Having a rider around for season after season who is going nowhere is a turn off for fans. Not so. It may turn you off, and others on here, but for "ordinary" spectarors who go to Owlerton just to enjoy watching four guys racing round, a bit of continuity is no bad thing. Too many club's ring changes for changes' sake and give little or no chance for spectators to find heroes. In the "good old days" riders were allowed to stay with their club and become legends. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WTF1 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 2012 Sheffield dream team 1 Ashworth 2 Toft 3 Wells 4 Birks 5 Auty 6 Haines Sarjeant 2012 What I think we'll get 1 Stead 2 Haines 3 Wells 4 Sanchez/Skiddy 5 Hall 6 Koppe 7 Jakobsen/Davey Friddy75 your'e quite welcome to come along to Scunny every week to see 3 of your 2012 Sheffield Dream team or even 2013 team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) Not so. It may turn you off, and others on here, but for "ordinary" spectarors who go to Owlerton just to enjoy watching four guys racing round, a bit of continuity is no bad thing. Too many club's ring changes for changes' sake and give little or no chance for spectators to find heroes. In the "good old days" riders were allowed to stay with their club and become legends. I agree we need more stability in teams and retaining rider that can be associated with the club rather as have to change for the sake of the rules and averages. Edited December 1, 2012 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) Not so. It may turn you off, and others on here, but for "ordinary" spectarors who go to Owlerton just to enjoy watching four guys racing round, a bit of continuity is no bad thing. Too many club's ring changes for changes' sake and give little or no chance for spectators to find heroes. In the "good old days" riders were allowed to stay with their club and become legends. What you have to realise is that taking that viewpoint into account you could fully justify re-signing the whole of last years team. I can imagine what sort of response that would receive on here and on the terraces. I don't think teams make changes for changes sake (other than those that are forced to by the points limit) - I think they do so to freshen up the side and offer their fans some kind of promise of success. Retaining riders who show a deal of promise or are likely to increase their averages is obviously a good thing and, in Sheffield's case, Haines certainly fits that bill and I think Wells would do too. That's reflected in the views of most Sheffield fans here. After that you have a choice - retain a rider like Hall, who is going absolutely nowhere and hasn't significantly changed his average for years (the problem with last years side is that it was packed with riders like that) or go for someone like Grajczonek who has and shows that he could go further. There's no doubt in my mind who is more likely to stimulate interest and bring a few of the missing fans back, and that's what Sheffield Speedway needs. I would of preferred to have kept Haines at reserve to cover a young British and Sheffield lad Sarjeant rather than Koppe. Everyone has different opinions that's what a forums for. That's fair point. Unless Koppe shows some serious promise for the future signing him on a 5.00 is a major gamble and leaving Haines at reserve would give Sheffield better balance. Nielsen for me, though. I like Sarjeant, but there are some issues around him that would definitely make me think twice about signing him. Edited December 1, 2012 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostylion Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 i stil cant believe Stefan Nielsen hasnt been signed yet in the prem..both parent club and Ipswich,who he seemed a shoe in dont seem to have taken much interest for 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 i stil cant believe Stefan Nielsen hasnt been signed yet in the prem..both parent club and Ipswich,who he seemed a shoe in dont seem to have taken much interest for 2013 just because he isnt announced dosnt meen he isnt signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friddy75 Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I agree with a combination of two previous posts. I think we do need to retain riders to create hero's and legends at a club. Some that the fans can call their favourites. Ones that kids will get excited about going to get an autograph from year in year out. My lads loved Ricky Ashworth their first meeting was when he won the PLRC. They'll never forget that night. I also think it would help with sponsors as I'd rather put my money into someone who's going to be there the following year. But we also need to change a few riders every season to freshen up, search for the next hero, and because the averages means we have to. I can also see why most would like Nielsen at Sheffield, won the under 19's there, possibly last seasons top national league rider has some PL experience. But I would rather we went out and bought a local lad like Sarjeant and gave him a chance. There's massive hysteria because Stead has returned after 10 years, again a local lad. We could be saying the same about Sarjeant in ten years. We could be comparing him to Ricky Ashworth thanks to his ten year service to the team. We won't with Nielsen(Scunny will). Again I also think it would help with sponsors throughout Sheffield. It could also help with promotion if the local press are talking about 'Sheffield lad Sarjeant' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersteady1984 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Heard Ricky wells has signed 4 Workington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 i stil cant believe Stefan Nielsen hasnt been signed yet in the prem..both parent club and Ipswich,who he seemed a shoe in dont seem to have taken much interest for 2013 I've read comments on the Scunny forum, Rob Godfrey claims he enquired about Stefan but couldn't agree terms. Maybe Ipswich did the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I agree with a combination of two previous posts. I think we do need to retain riders to create hero's and legends at a club. Some that the fans can call their favourites. Ones that kids will get excited about going to get an autograph from year in year out. My lads loved Ricky Ashworth their first meeting was when he won the PLRC. They'll never forget that night. I also think it would help with sponsors as I'd rather put my money into someone who's going to be there the following year. But we also need to change a few riders every season to freshen up, search for the next hero, and because the averages means we have to. I can also see why most would like Nielsen at Sheffield, won the under 19's there, possibly last seasons top national league rider has some PL experience. But I would rather we went out and bought a local lad like Sarjeant and gave him a chance. There's massive hysteria because Stead has returned after 10 years, again a local lad. We could be saying the same about Sarjeant in ten years. We could be comparing him to Ricky Ashworth thanks to his ten year service to the team. We won't with Nielsen(Scunny will). Again I also think it would help with sponsors throughout Sheffield. It could also help with promotion if the local press are talking about 'Sheffield lad Sarjeant' I don't think it is a case that people don't want Ricky Ashworth its more that Ricky has clearly stated that he wants to be at Berwick next season, see the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR93_kvfIMc I would rather see riders that actually want to ride for the club, and at the moment Ricky wants to be with Berwick so if that what we wants then lets let the guy have want he wants. In Simon Stead Sheffield have adequately replace or found a better replacement for Ricky. It says in the Speedway Star that he has turned more money at other clubs to come to Sheffield so I think that answers the question whether he wants to be at so Simon Stead the rider wants to be at the club. Simon Stead the man, I don't know whether you were around the last time he was at the club, but one thing that he does do well is connect with the fans both young and old, and understands the value of the supporters. But don't just take my word for it ask the fans of Swindon what they think of Simon Stead. Lets not forget that Simon was up and until recently part of the Team GB World Cup Squad, he has had rode in British GB as a Wild card on more than one occasion, he can bring a wealth of knowledge and experience to club that will prove invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friddy75 Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I accept Your comments about Stead, he's signed and I'm fully behind him! My worry is 'one man doesn't make a team' and I'm worried we've spent so much time chasing, whilst many good heat leaders have been signed elsewhere. So much money trying to bring in one rider that that there isn't any left for any more quality riders. And with Steady's average combined with Koppe I can't see how we're going to make a good team. As I've said before its the teams total that wins matches not one rider. Not sure if I've mentioned on here or a different thread. I think there's a misconception that the crowds are gonna be increased due to Steady returning. If your a die hard fan you'll go week in week out even if its a poor team like I did last season. Some who already know who Stead is will return to see that rider but....my neighbour who doesn't know what speedway is isn't going to suddenly get interested because some bloke they've never heard of has returned. If an exciting teams being successful and written about in the press then they might. If the teams not good enough to back Sready up I can't see any difference from last season. Whatever happens I'll still go! I also only want riders who want to ride for Sheffield. Ashworth was left in the dark last season and made to feel unwanted so had to go to Plymouth before changing to Berwick. I can't blame the lad for wanting a return. But did Simon Stead really want to ride for Sheffield....only if he didn't sign for Swindon or if we changed the race night to suit his priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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